Pro Pro's poly strings

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  1. steve s

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    Which of these strings have a soft feel (for a poly). Will be stringing at a low tension.
     
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  2. stringsguy

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    Vendetta
    Blackforce

    Vendetta being the softest
     
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  3. THESEXPISTOL

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    Black Out

    Clone of Blackcode, Vendetta is very soft also, never tried Blackforce...
     
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  4. steve s

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    Thanks for the suggestions. What kind on tension do you use on Pro's Pro poly vs other brands of poly string
     
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  5. Lakers4Life

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    I don't go over 55 lbs. 50-52 seems to work best. Also waiting at least 5 seconds before clamping.
     
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  6. stringsguy

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    Depends I guess what type of player you are? But I tend to do around 50-55lbs to get power, control and spin
     
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  7. THESEXPISTOL

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    Also, if you string on a dropweight don't overpull the mains, or the thinner gauges will easily break.
     
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  8. purple-n-gold

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    Tried Blackout 17 at 52lbs yesterday, nice soft poly, if I didn't have so many sets of black poly I would buy a reel, there's a good deal on reels right now.
     
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  9. Dazzler

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    I use either Red Devil or Blackout and they both play quite soft I have them in a Hybrid with a synthetic gut though
     
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  10. stringsguy

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    Both are good strings and work well as a hybrid.
     
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  11. Francis27

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    which pros pro polys are soft, durable and great tension maintenance? looking to either do a full bed or a hybrid with a multi
     
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  12. Fuji

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    I don't think any have solid tension maintenance.

    -Fuji
     
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  13. Francis27

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    Ive read good reviews on the vendetta I'm thinking of trying it
     
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  14. domosborn

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    Intense heat is also really good, message me for more info
     
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  15. Muppet

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    I've been having difficulty finding a good tension for Stratagem 1.25. It's a very lively string. I've tried 52/53, 54/55, and 56/57 (drop weight.) I broke it on the last knot, so next I tried 56/58 with Stratagem/Spiral Flex. Unfortunately, it still feels to lively. So next I'll try 57/58 full bed with an 8 second delay before clamping. I hope it will be durable enough. I'm not having a good feeling about this string. I use 1 lb. higher cross tension on my Liquidmetal OS because the frame's natural sweetspot is wider than I like.
     
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  16. Sage

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    I have heard that the Stratagem is a lively string. Have you tried the Stratagem on a mid plus racquet? I have never found much control on an oversized racquet. You could put a stiffer poly in the crosses as well that may work.
     
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  17. Muppet

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    I do have a 90" and two 95". The OS is the test racquet for polys. I usually have the others occupied with strings that are working well in them. My theory is that polys usually will tame the OS frame. I guess I'll get around to trying the Stratagem in my AG200 after the Pro Red Code loses tension and I try Intellitour next.

    I know it sounds like I'm all over the map, but I'm keeping Cyber Flash / Hexy Fiber in my MuscleWeave 95 @48/53. It's a nice combo, and if nothing else works out I'll stick with it. My Dunlop Black Max II is a pretty dead frame. Maybe I'll try the Stratagem in there, although it is a 90".
     
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  18. Sage

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    Let me know how the Stratagem works in your AG200.
     
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  19. Muppet

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    Will do. -10 char
     
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  20. kcmiser

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    All equipment preferences are, of course, subjective. However, I'm amazed at how, compared to frames, strings get such widely different opinions from player to player. I tried Strategem because it was listed as similar to Black Widow, which is super-soft, sharply shaped, and very lively/elastic. Based on the above post, and having hit BW, which is very lively, I would have thought that Strategem was similar. However, my experience is that it is the deadest string I've ever hit. Absolutely nothing like BW. I couldn't believe how a string that didn't feel at all stiff could be so unresponsive, even at the very low tensions (38 lbs.) I'm using. Odd how our evaluations are not just different, but polar opposites.

    I'm trying to find something soft and responsive/lively, with decent bite and good pop. I've tried Vendetta, and it fits this criteria pretty well. Has anyone tried Revoltec? It's "compare to" string is Polystar Energy, which I've read has having excellent pop. However, after being burned with Strategem's "compare to" information, I'm very leery about taking a flyer on another Pro's Pro string based on this.
     
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  21. ART ART

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    I have tested Strategem for some weeks, and the "problem" is stringing it low. Low tensions on this string don't work very good..

    This is a very soft co-poly, the softest co-poly I have found, here in the Club many good players (4.5-6.0) have try it, and what we found was that under 18 kilos it feels "mushy" very low powered. Raising tension from 20 kilos to 23 kilos, you will feel it a lot lively, with much more feel and power.

    At 20 Kilos - 23 kilos, you will get a very good response from this string, very good spin, normal power for a co-poly and good tension stability.
     
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  22. edman9898

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    I am an all court 4.5 player that hits fairly hard and mixes it up. I absolutely love Vendetta in a full bed. When I hybrid it the ball has a little too much pop. Great spin and tension maintenance in my opinion.
     
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  23. Muppet

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    I have the Strategem in my AG200 @54, dropweight. It was a good first guess for this racquet. I should mention that I have it moded to 371g, 8.5 HL. The swingweight isn't too high because I don't have any added weight above the grip and sw is 318 stock.

    The string is comfortable, with very good topspin. I had great success with switching over to a modified eastern forhand (from eastern) for high balls. It felt like buttah. Flat shots were also predictable.

    At 52/53 lb. in my Head LM Rad OS, Stratagem was at a point where it felt both muddy and over-powered. I tried increasing it a few times, and it got to feeling more crisp, but it's just too powerful in that racquet.

    It seems like an odd string that is low-powered at low tensions and powerful at higher tensions. Just for curiosity sake, maybe I'll string it low in the OS and see if it will kill the frame's power.
     
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  24. o0lunatik

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    Can't go wrong with Black Out. Excellent poly at an unbeatable price for a reel.
     
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    intense heat 1.25 is soft , good power and very nice spin. only the first 4-5 hours. after the initial 4h it becomes very stiff and lose some of initial power

    I've played with Black Widow 20h , when it break. never felt any arm pain. now with the intense heat me elbow is sore after 2h practice or game. i think that intense head if far away in terms of comfort but is better in terms of control and initial power.

    i tested the string on a babolat pure drive roddick gt . tension 25/24 kg.
     
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