pro staff classic 6.1 95 16x18 and 18x20??

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  1. big bang

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    I have played with this super racket since it came out in the early 90´s.
    but I have have only seen it with 16x18 pattern, yesterday I picked up 2 of them with 18x20 pattern. so my question is.. where it made with both or is it because the 18x20 is a newer version or maybe a US-version? I come from Denmark and of course we dont see as many models as you do in the states.
    at first I was thinking maybe it was a fake, it dont look that way, but for sure its a newer version than my original ones
     
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  2. coachrick

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    In the mid-90s, we saw these in the hands of Euro and South American tour players mostly. At that time, I never saw one for retail sale in Atlanta, only the 16 x 18...pretty nasty to string with the 'early' poly strings used by the tour guys at that time.
     
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    I´m glad to hear you actually saw these before. I´m gonna test them tomorrow, I dont think I will like as much as my regular 16x18 but maybe I´m in for a surprise:)
     
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  4. Ross K

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    Be very curious to hear how you like it.

    Most PSC wielders on these boards seem to have used the 16x18, where as I had the Eu closed pattern PSC 6.1 for a while.

    I was totally addicted to the granite stability and ball crushing heavy ball, as well as its all court brilliance.

    Have to say however, I always found it a bit too harsh and a bit too hefty re maneuverability. Plus I'm usually more of an open pattern type of guy (though there have been exceptions...)

    Look forward to hearing more of your impressions with the Eu PSC 6.1.

    R.
     
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  5. jayserinos99

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    The PSC 6.1 95 18x20 was sold in Europe as the PSC 6.1 Tour Edition and then the Tour Edition moniker was dropped. There isn't a difference between either one. I didn't think the 6.1 could feel any more solid until I tried the 18x20; I loved that solid feel from the stringbed, not to mention the PSC6.1 is a beefy frame to begin with. Unfortunately I can't wield a close to 13oz frame (my Tours came with Fairway leather grips) for days at a time so I pull them out from time to time but not as a game day frame.
     
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  6. Ross K

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    Agree with all of that Jay!... absolutely my experience too... and I also pull mine out on sometimes when I need to remind myself what a solid, stable, plow through racket is meant to feel like!:)

    R.
     
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  7. big bang

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    nice to hear from you guys who have used this stick.

    I played about an hour with it yesterday and think it plays very differet from the 16x18. I think it´s got even more controle than the 16x18 but not as much pop, of course it does´nt offer the same insane kind of spin the 16x18 does.
    but damn it must be the most rock solid frame I ever tried out!!
    somehow I really enjoyed hitting the 18x20 though it does´nt suit me as good as the 16x18, the reason for this is that I am a true claycourter and hits with much more spin than the average player. that spin was difficult for me to generate with the 18x20. I tried to hit more flat shots and found amazing controle with it, I could really crush the ball with this stick!!
    I´ll stick with my 16x18 or else I have to change my game more than I like to, but I´ll keep the 18x20´s and hit with them every once in a while:)

    please Wilson start making these rockets again, please please!!!
     
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  8. PimpMyGame

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    I have owned the 18x20 version for about 3 weeks, it's an unbelievable stick with amazing slice potential. It is heavy and takes some getting used to, but after forcing myself to play with it for a while you don't notice the weight that much.

    Put mine on the postal scales and it came in at 363g with Fairway grip, overgrip and dampener. Such a solid, smooth stick it makes everything else in my bag feel tinny. For the record I have a 200G Muscle Weave, Donnay Pro-One Ltd Ed, and 2 AG300s in my bag which are all good rackets, the 6.1 Classic 18x20 feels as if it's in another league though!
     
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  9. MichaelChang

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    I have a brand new PSC6.1 18x20 hanging on my wall. Plastic on handle, under which is the fairway leather. I purchased this in Asia. I believe usually Asia and Europe got the same rackets on market, while north America probably gets the 16x18.

    Back in the mid 90s, while the PS 6.0 and 6.1 were quite popular in Asia, I remember the price for 6.0 is about twice the price for a 6.1 At that time I owned a few 6.1 and I remember at one point it was about just 70bucks for a new 6.1 while the 6.0 goes for over 150 USD. Well, I wish I saved more of those sticks from those days. However from my memory the 6.1 didn't play as good as the 6.0. Since then I have never played with the 6.1 any more, just with 1 new hanging in my home...
     
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  10. vkartikv

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    If I'm not wrong, Gaudio uses the tour 6.1 18x20.
     
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  11. ipitythefool

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    I don't have the PSC 6.1 but his newer brother, Hyper PS 6.1 Tour Ed.
    If I recall correctly, it weighed like 13.3oz with an o-grip as stock. Previous owner said it had Bosworth butt cap sticker and lead at 3&9 but he took them off. 68 stiffness, but it felt easier on the arm compared to my buddys PSC6.1. Ultimate ball crushing control...
     
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    when they made the PS 6.1 extra long's, they used the 18x20 string pattern on them.
     
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  13. Ross K

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    Again - I completely agree with these comments... so nice to hear from others who've played the Eu version!

    R.
     
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  14. FedererClone

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    ...anyone compared the extra long's to the regular length? What was the reasoning for the extra length & did this dictate a tighter string pattern?
     
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  15. jayserinos99

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    I don't remember hitting with the extra long frame but I remember that frame coming out around the time extended length racquets were popular; Wilson for a time made 28" versions of a few of their frames. I don't know the reasoning why a tighter string pattern was needed.
     
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  16. FedererClone

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    thx for the response. Would be interested to hear from anyone who has compared the 27" to the 28" out there ... I remember the fashion of the day. Didn't Chang hit with an elongated Prince for a while?
     
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  17. jayserinos99

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    ^ yes, in fact they made the chang graphite for him.
     
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  18. FedererClone

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    It's been a while since I posted on here... currently hitting with the 18x20 and loving the feel - used to hit w/16x18 back in the day so nabbed one to compare to tour edition this week.

    Weight and swing is exactly the same - but IMHO 18x20 is a much steadier performer. Off center hits still maintain more control, and I don't feel the tighter stringbed really takes away from the spin.

    I am now seeking the 18x20 stretch which I am thinking may be a tad too long at 28" -- reading online in various places many people have suggested that DelPotro and Fish hit with a customized 27.5" PSC 6.1 Tour. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest!

    Any more thoughts on the two sticks Talk Tennisers?
     
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