Pro tension chart - suprisingly low!

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by RobFL, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. RobFL

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    Has anyone seen this through the Wilson website? It appears highly factual and credible. I'm astounded by how low these pro tensions are. Can Fed possibly be at 21/19.5 kg or 46/43 lbs??? Davidyenko at 17/16 kg? Verdasco at 23/21. There are a lot of guys listed at 60, 62, 68, 70 etc. which makes the low tensions look credible.

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  2. Virtua Tennis

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    Well given that they all use some sort of poly string the tension said is quite possible. Also they don't care about tension maintenace not when they string their racquets everyday so their racquets always feel nice and tight out of their bag.
     
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  3. Eiffel59

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    Pro's poly tensions are indeed going down...sometimes even too much (Volandri strings in the 22/28lbs range).
    And in the last challenger here (Manerbio at the end of august and Genoa one week ago) the higher full poly tensions were no more than 52lbs...
     
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  4. roundiesee

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    I think we may also have to remember that most pros would have their strings "pre-stretched", so their strings would not lose tension that easily, as compared to us (mere amateurs)..... :)
     
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  5. T-fighter

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    Poly's are never prestretched, not even by the pro's.
     
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  6. Lindsay

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    Not too many prestretches at the Open, some with gut. I string for several Pro Circuit events throughout the year and I've charted tensions from various countries. The rule of thumb I've found is, if the player is American, expect their tension to be nearly 10 pounds higher than an international player. Of course, this isn't the gold standard and there are major exceptions, but its pretty close.

    Edit: From 5 womens events and 3 mens events this summer, Americans are 8.3 pounds higher than everyone else.
     
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    Last year at the Sthlm Open i was working with security there, and had some time to talk to the guy that was doing most of the stringing there, and he said he prestreched all rackets including my own that i had him string up with pro hurricane tour.........
     
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  8. RobFL

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    Well it seems like no one is really disputing the general credibility of this chart on the Wilson site. I thought i was crazy - still hard to believe Federer is in the 40s on his tension. The other obvious trend is many of these pros now playing full poly rather than a poly hybrid. My experience is jiving with this as my K 6.1 95 18x20 has never played better than when it just unintentionally dropped to about 52 lbs with Pro Supex BAM. I started around 57 but my next string job with this fine string will be at around 52-its been a great setup with the lower tension and the ball is diving in with a full swing on the ball.
     
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  9. JStar7

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    I think you should post the link as a link and not an image, because I was going to post asking where the link is. For those who can't see it, here it is:

    http://www.wilson.com/dyn/racquet/09camp/usopennews/images/stringlog.pdf
     
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  10. DrumWizOHBD

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    It has been public knowledge for quite some time that Federer strings in the 40's. I also saw a stringing ticket for a stringing order for Federer from several years ago, and it listed BOTH the Gut and the Poly as requiring a Pre-Stretch. Now Ron Yu, a man who strings many rackets for Fed may be able to shed more light on this. Just what I saw in a photo of a piece of paper. I personally pre-stretch poly a little to help get rid of coil memory.

    This site lists Pros' strings and tensions at many tournaments from several years back.
    http://www.racquettech.com/cgi/pro_logs.cgi
     
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  11. trix123

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    What are the advantages of stringing the racket at such low tension
     
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  12. star 5 15

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    obviously more power and spin but mainly just personal preference and what the player probably grew up with. I've strung some coaches and players at ITFs and The norm for the Europeans is about 21kg to 24kg IMO. My coach who grew up on red clay in spain strings luxilon original in a prestige mid at about 22kg. I strung some sticks for a junior 60 in the world ITF and he was using kblade 98 strung at 23kg with alu power. He was from Ireland.
     
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  13. Lefty78

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    Too much concrete, not enough clay...
     
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  14. RobFL

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    Thanks DrumWiz for confirmation that Fed strings in the high 40s. I'm pretty astute on this stuff but did not know that was general knowledge. It just helps to confirm the performance I think i'm getting from dropping my full co-poly to 52. And thanks to the poster for posting the link, i just couldn't get it to paste in.
     
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  15. trix123

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    Cheers mate
     
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  16. ronalditop

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    I think the reason why pros are stringing lower now than before is because racquets are becoming more and more stiff and less powerful. I use MG prestige MP, a very stiff racquet with a dense string pattern and very low power. I used to string synguts in the high 50's and then I started to use polys in the mid 50's. I always felt with those setups that I couldnt generate too much power, but I thought it was me instead of the racquet so I didnt change my string setups. But after some time using polys I noticed my elbow and wrist was starting to hurt, and I had to rest for some days to let it heal. Thats why I decided to start using lower tensions, now I use polys in the mid- high 40's (currently using 48lbs) and I no longer have any pain, and with this setup my shots are a lot more powerful and difficltu to return and is easier to hit winners. Im comfortable now with my racquet. Next time Ill probably try 45 lbs.
     
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  17. Darth_Timmaayyy!!

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    Well I string between 45 and 48lbs.. Always have since tournament days..
     
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  18. Blade0324

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    Well I have to comment on a couple things here. For starters the MG Prestige MP is not a stiff racquet. At only 63 it is on the lower end of the middle in terms of stiffness. Many other offering from Head are stiffer. Many Wilsons run in the upper 60's and a number of Babalot's in the lower 70's makes the MGPMP a relativley flexible racquet. Now it is indeed a low powered stick I will give you that. However with a nice full swing it is more than capable of delivering lots of power. If you were stringing full poly in the mid 50's and had some arm and wrist pain I would venture to say that more than likely this was from you hitting the ball a bit late than it was the tension. Yes lowering the tension will help with this but it is probably just covering up the real issue. I don't know you or your game so I could be wrong but I'm going with what is the case more often than not. I personally use full poly some of the time in a MGPP and have it at 59-60 mains and 61-63 crosses. I have no arm pain and for me I couldn't even comprehend using such low tensions, the ball seems to spring off of the racquet far to much for me. Sorry to ramble but did feel the need to correct the stiffness thing.
     
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  19. sanchino

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    That's B**LS**T!
     
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  20. Lefty78

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    ^^^Perhaps you can elaborate?

    Many pros adjust their string tension based on conditions (courts, weather, balls, etc.) and the general trend is to string tighter when conditions are faster.

    Therefore, it seems sensible that players who grew up in places like California are likely to string tightly, because there are basically only hard courts there and the ball really flies. The same goes for most of the US.

    Now, I'm not saying that growing up on hard courts is the only reason the American players string tightly, nor am I suggesting that all international players string loosely. I'm not even suggesting that all international players grew up on clay or otherwise slow courts.

    My only point is that the trend for US pros to string tightly reflects the trend that they grew up on fast hard courts. It's not b**ls**t, sanchino.
     
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  21. SplitStepper

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    I've been at 30 to 40lbs. for awhile now as a 4.5 teaching pro. tried to come up this summer, but 44lbs was way too stiff and HORRIBLE for my arm. I'm back to 35lbs with Weiss cannon match power in the mains and global gut in the crosses. playing my best again. I once thought this was riciculous, but now I see the light. Hang loose!
     
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  22. ac3111

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    Maybe I am not that familiar with the tennis industry companies etc but isn't it a bit strange that Wilson reveals the tensions of players that don't use their racquets or their strings.
    Nearly all of them in the list use either Luxilon or babolat. Simon uses a head string and a couple more use in the mains a non Luxilon or Babolat string.
    And it seems that pros now use full poly setups, right?
     
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  23. tigerstring

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    I've found that when Europeans come over to America, they almost always have to go up in tension. They all say the ball flies over here compared to what they are used to. And we're at Sea level where I am. I've also heard from Americans when they travel abroad that they sometimes string looser than they do back home. They almost all agree that the ball flies differently on different continents. Then again this is only a small sample of a few Europeans a year.
     
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  24. Lefty78

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    Wilson operated the stringing room at the US Open, so they strung racquets for most players, regardless of sponsorship.

    Wilson is also the US distributor for Luxilon, so there's no conflict of interest there.
     
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    Thank you, lefty.
    I noticed that neirher Djokovic nor Murray are in the list...
     
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  26. tigerstring

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    That's becuase they use the special service, Priority 1.
     
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  27. adidasman

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    How can guys still not understand that stiff racquets are MORE, not less, powerful? It's not complicated. If the racquet is stiff, it flexes less at impact, the ball leaves the racquet face more quickly, and the frame absorbs less of the ball's pace; thus the ball rebounds off the face at closer to its original speed. If it's more flexible, it gives more at impact and absorbs more of the energy of the ball, so the ball stays on the racquet face longer and goes back with less pace. I'm a moron when it comes to science or physics or whatever, and I grasp this. Why doesn't everyone?
     
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  28. mikro112

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    Federer does that as well!
     
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  29. charliefedererer

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    Also Wilson buys its natural gut from Babolat, so the two must have some type of agreement.
     
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  30. BreakPoint

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    Hmm...I wonder if this is related to American tennis going down the tubes? There are currently probably fewer American men and women in the Top 100 than at any time in pro tennis history. Maybe American pros need to lower their tensions?
     
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