This frame is the brother of an earlier posting. I bought the stick from TW a little less than a year ago, and used it somewhat often. It is a 7.5 out of 10. There are several scratches in the paint with a chip towards the bottom of the hoop, however the frame still plays exceptionally well. The grip size is 4 1/2, and the original leather is still intact. This frame is not strung, and it comes with no grommets. Asking price is $80. Go ahead and e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org with any questions. thanks.