Pros/Cons of Kevlar strings

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  1. se0what

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    really? i strung it at 59 tension and hit with it for a while during the summer last year
    and it was perfectly fine for me (arammix from gosen)
     
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  2. mawashi

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    Exactly! My Yonex rds 002T has a forten 18g/Vantage poly 17 (I think it's actually dunlop explosive) at 58/58 n it plays totally fine. I'm thinking of upping the tension to 60/60 to reduce the power of the stick.

    However, my speed mp 18x20 is only stung at 50/52 but I'm going to increase it to 52/54 for better control.

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  3. mawashi

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    I've been using kevlar hybrids for bout 9 months n love it completely however, different pp have different tolerances.

    I have no issue using kevlar but my good friend who frequents the board has arm issues even when using my vantage 63ra strung at 55/57 kevlar/syn gut hybrid.

    He had used Kevlar for years b4 it finally got to him.

    Your statement that kevlar is that comfortable is wrong. Some pp are ok with it n others not.

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  4. Irvin

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    I have used Kevlar hybrids (Prince, Gamma, and Ashaway) on and off for more than 20 years. Never have and never would use full Kevlar or Kevlar/Poly hybrid. I like everything about Kevlar except for the power. I can't say it ever hurt my arm but I do believe it could, and more than likely would, if it is used long enough.

    The main reason I do not like it is because I lose too much power. There is a huge difference between Kevlar and any other string when it comes to power, spin, life, and feel. If you have never tried it you should, you just may like it. Andre Agassi used to use Prince Pro Blend and said, "I like it because it's nice and dead."

    One more point is that Kevlar does not stretch. I doubt many people could tell the difference between Kevlar strung at 40-50, 50-60, or 60-70.

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  5. precision2b

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    I agree. As i was reading this thread i was thinking the same thing as drakulie. thanks drakulie for posting for me...LOL
     
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  6. precision2b

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    Again i agree with drakulie. drakulie what is your favorite set with kevlar???
     
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  7. Blade0324

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    Anyone have the same experience that I do that Kevlar moves around a great deal? If not any suggestions on how to keep it from moving as I like the string but detest the movement.
     
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  9. HitItHarder

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    I hit with the Head FXP blend kevlar hybrid again last night for the second time. I noticed that my stings are moving significantly more the second time around. However, I play with a lot of synthetic guts, and it isn't anywhere as bad as those in movement. I also strung it at 55lbs with the cross at 57lbs.

    I am still digging the feel and bite I get with the kevlar. Has great control and is maintaining tension pretty well so far.

    On volleys, I am starting to get a better feel for using kevlar. I have to punch through a little more to get the power I want. However, it still has great control at the net.

    One thing I did notice about comfort though, on mishits I definately can feel more of a vibration than I do with a synthetic gut or multi. So I can definately see where a problem could come up if you mishit the ball a lot. But when you hit through the ball and stay in the sweet spot, I can't tell a difference comfort wise between this kevlar and a stiff synthetic gut.

    Hope to hit again on Friday, so I will have to see if my perception changes. I still don't know that I would want to use this full time, but it is fun to play with for a change of pace.
     
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  10. precision2b

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    <<<<Same here>>>>
     
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  11. travlerajm

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    For 10 years, I played with a Wilson Profile 2.7 OS (RDC 84) strung with Problend 16g at 77lbs. I never had a problem.

    Now I like Kevlar mains with poly crosses (gives a little more spin than with synthetic gut crosses, but volleying not quite as accurate). I like tensions anywhere from 45 to 65 lbs with this combo.
     
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  12. Roy Hobbs

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    I prefer flex from my racquet rather than my stringbed.

    In the 80s I used a Max 200G with ProBlend @ 47 lbs. These days, TW's Pro One with Gamma's Infinity @ 57 lbs.
     
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  13. se0what

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    uhh well i had a slight arm probelm cause of kevlar FYI i have good form....
     
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  14. NPham

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    Isn't stringing kevlar at 40lbs too low? I mean i've been using synthetic gut since I played, but I keep breaking them in a week or so due to the topspin I put out. I might want to try kevlar sometime because I won't break it.
     
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  15. Tennissee

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    Oh no, I got TTE ...

    Something happened to me a couple days ago suggests that you might have a point.

    But before I go there, I thought it should be established that TE is likely to be resultant from many different factors. Two individuals using the exact same racquet strung with the same strings at the same tensions, I tend to agree that bad techniques would be more likely to cause injury than good ones. On the other hand, it could also be argued that for the same person using the same racquet strung with the same strings, higher tension may impact the elbow differently from lower tension set up. Now, when different people with different skill levels and techniques, not unlike us, talk about different racquets, strung with different strings, at different tensions, measured on different stringing machines, ... there are too many factors that could negate, if not nullify, our conclusions, if we ever arrive at any.

    Nevertheless, I'd like to offer this anecdote.

    Two nights ago, my 16-year old challenged me a game of ping pong. He's a very good player, but I can hold my own also since when I was young I was the practice partner for my brother, who was on competition level. Anyway, we played for about 90 minutes and I kind of ran out of steam so we called it a night. Around 2:30 AM, my elbow was hurting real bad that I couldn't sleep. I realized that I've got a bad and sudden case of Table Tennis Elbow. Since I couldn't sleep and I'm not in the habit of popping Aspirin to deal with pains, I stayed in bed and thought, among other things, drakulie's argument. You see, I have never taken any lessons in table tennis (or tennis). So it can be argued that my technique is not the best in the world. Now ping pong paddle (or bat for you purists) does not transmit that much of vibration to the player's elbow. Since the ball is light and the paddle is light, the main reason for my TTE has to be from my technique, or the lack thereof.

    Lucky for me that after resting a couple days of resting, this TTE thing is going away. Otherwise, I would be calling around for some ProKennex paddles. :)

    Oh, I should mention that because of the bad and cold weather, I haven't been playing any tennis, which rules out other possibilities.
     
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  16. Tennissee

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    What gauge of S.G. are you using? 17?

    When I first started playing I liked 17 gauge synthetic gut for its feel and spin capability. But after breaking strings in both my racquets while warming up at a tournament, I switched to Gamma PowerPlay 18 and, then, a much better Ashaway Kevlar 18. I usually use 46 lbs for mains and 48 lbs for crosses. But truth be told, my drop weight stringing machine has not been calibrated, ever, so those numbers probably don't mean much. The only thing is the tension is very low, and I'm very happy with it.
     
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  17. NPham

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    I've always used 16
     
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    how does kevlar behave when stringing at 50 lbs as opposed 60lbs???

    does it not stretch like all other string types??? how do string machines get an accurate tension when using kevlar?
     
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  19. rst

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    also, with kevlar in the mains does that tend to lengthen the life of syngut crosses?
     
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  20. J011yroger

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    What I find happens is that when you string at 50, it plays just fine at first but goes dead more quickly, so I strung it at 70, and it was lame for the last 1/3 of its life, and when strung at 60 maybe the last 1/2, and at 50 maybe even sooner.

    Because the Kevlar doesn't stretch, it does not much matter how tight you make it because you are bending the frame more than stretching the string when you pull the tension. Because it doesn't stretch however, if the cross string is looser, when it wears a bit the Kevlar kind of flops in the breeze. I have found that stringing it tighter allows the cross to back it up a bit longer.

    J
     
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  21. J011yroger

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    I am not sure I understand the question.

    Kevlar mains and syn crosses will last longer than full syn gut.

    Kevlar mains and syn crosses may or may not last longer than Poly mains and syn crosses.

    J
     
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  22. J011yroger

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    Agassi used to use Kevlar mains and gut crosses, which is a sweet setup.

    J
     
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  23. Sander001

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    What are the differences between those Kevlar strings and what gauges did you use?
     
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  24. precision2b

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    Yes it is! You can use Prince Syn W/ Duraflex instead of gut to keep the cost down. It's a good combo also…
     
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