pro's pro challenger one poor quality?

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  1. Tennisfan1000

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    i bought the challenger one here in europe and im not very happy with it.
    it offers alot for the price (150 Euro) but after only a few months im having problems with it. both swivel bases are pretty much dead. a few other parts are already worn out but i can replace them. its not going to cost much but its time consuming and annoying.
    if i want to replace the swivel bases i will have to pay 90 Euro! and they are't great either. its hard to fixate the swivels when you try to string the outer strings. its easy to fixate them when they are facing the upper and lower part of the racket but not the sides.
    maybe i should remove them an use flying clamps? never used flying clamps. does anyone know where i can buy flying clamps?
    thanks
     
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  2. Kevo

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    The clamp bases can be adjusted, and this will be necessary from time to time. Also, if you aren't that familiar with it, you might think you need to lever them a lot tighter than you really need to. This can compress the pads and wear them out sooner than normal.

    I don't have a Pro's Pro, but I have an Eagnas Challenger 1, and I think they are the same thing. I've had a couple things go wrong on mine. The main problem is they use cheap bolts on some of the smaller parts, and I've replaced a few of those. I also replaced the turn table bearings with better ones after one of mine cracked. I think I've spent about $10 bucks on those small parts. Everything else has worked pretty well, and I've strung somewhere around 250-300 frames rough guess.

    I did get a 5yr. warranty on mine, but I doubt I'll need it. I think I've had it about 4 years now.
     
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  3. scotus

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    Yes, Eagnas (US) = Pros' Pro (Europe)
     
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  4. Tennisfan1000

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    exactly.
    at the moment i have to screw the swivel base tight for every string. i don't know what the problem is. should i change the small bolts or do i have to buy a new swivel base? i heard there are new ones that are better than the eagnas/pro's pro swivel bases. i disliked them the first day i used them.
    thanks
     
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  5. Hankenstein

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    I made a short and pretty crappy homevideo of me adjusting a base of a Pro´s pro Pilot machine but it´s the same on your machine.. Take a look and see if this helps you

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HKIlmOJ0o
     
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  6. Ken Sachar

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    Tennisfan1000

    I had to make some thin, hard rubber gaskets to fit between the clamp base and the table for my Eagnas Hawk 800. That was the only way I could get enough friction to prevent the base from twisting or slipping.

    Ken
     
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  7. Kevo

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    Are you talking about the clamp bases? If so, I think there must be a problem with their assembly. I've adjusted mine maybe two or three times over the past several years. If you are having to screw them down to hold the string, then they aren't put together right, or there is oil on the pads or something. That's certainly not normal. I imagine you could replace the pads with something from the hardware store if you can't get them replaced under warranty.
     
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    thanks for the youtube video. i didn't know you can adjust them this way. i tightened the other bolts. ha thank you very much.
    and thanks for the other posts too!
     
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  9. v-verb

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    Just wanted to let you know that your video helped me out tonight - thank you!!
     
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    I agree, what a simply but great little video. I know this has helped me as I will have this machine next week and have never used fixed clamps.

    I wish this was available in the US.....I found in at the Canadian distributor, but not with the upgraded clamps you see in this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlXLJOfyM_A

    I wish some other makers would develop some sort of similar simple clamping like Spinfire.
     
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  11. v-verb

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    Canadian distributor? Oy vey and I live in Canada and ordered from the UK - stupid of me...altho I paid about $463 shipped including a reel of Pro's Pro poly
     
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    The Spinfire I referenced is around $760 in Australia, but at the Canadian Spinfire distributor it is $599 with free shipping! But that is the model without the cool fixed clamp locking like shown in the video I posted.

    Without that those cooler clamps, I am not sure the Spinfire would be worth $150 bucks more as it is essentially the exact same machine. I would have paid $200-250 more for those clamps though.
     
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  13. v-verb

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    Here you go - lives under the pool table usually. This one has the ratchet which I think is a must have personally. Allows me to adjust the tension bar up if needed

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  14. racertempo

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    My Eagnas Hawk does not have the ratchet but I ordered the same one you just showed. You said that the ratchet allows you to adjust the tension bar up if needed, but I could do that without the ratchet system.....is it just easier with the ratchet?
     
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  15. gebruikershaes

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    Yes, it's just a bit easier. You can adjust the tension with 1 hand for instance
     
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    I had a Klippermate before this. I like to buy North American made, but for me this is a huge step up in usability and apparent quality compared to the Klippermate for $200 more
     
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    Maybe the Eagnas has what I should be calling the ratchet system as well, but as mentioned you hold down the grabber with your left hand and use your right hand to pull the weight back up to get it to horizontal. Sounds like the little rumble-strip looking section allows this to be done with one hand instead of the 2 hands like I am used to.

    My tracking number has been updated from the UK company and UPS and it will be here Monday! That was a Friday order and Monday delivery from the UK!!!!! TW cannot get me stuff that quick from the other coast :)
     
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  18. v-verb

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    Very cool racertempo! It's a really nice machine in my view. And you can upgrade to a wise head if you want in the future.
     
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    I hate UPS......the inefficiency is astounding, here is my tracking info for my order:

    Louisville, KY, United States 12/22/2013 6:40 A.M. Registered with Clearing Agency. Shipment release pending Clearing Agency review. / Released by Clearing Agency. Now in-transit

    Louisville, KY, United States 12/21/2013 11:46 P.M. Arrival Scan

    Philadelphia, PA, United States 12/21/2013 9:07 P.M. Departure Scan
    Philadelphia, PA, United States 12/21/2013 9:13 A.M. Arrival Scan

    Louisville, KY, United States 12/21/2013 7:43 A.M. Registered with Clearing Agency. Shipment release pending Clearing Agency review. / Shipment submitted to Clearing Agency, awaiting final release.


    So it arrived in Ky, and was cleared, then went from Pa (I am in NC so that is going the wrong way), then it got back to Ky and was cleared again. It used to show a delivery date as the end of the day on 12/23, tomorrow.....now it does not show an expected delivery date at all. It is amazing how many times I see package back-track like this, someone needs to clear their crappy system up......and I hope I get my machine tomorrow.
     
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  20. v-verb

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    Bumping this up.

    So my end clamps holding the racquet is slipping when the strings are tensioned. I did put another rubber gasket under the clamp - no help

    Any cure for this? It's driving me nuts....

    Thanks in advance!
     
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