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  1. domosborn

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    Has anyone in the EU tried these strings? seem very reasonable, would like to know- also if shipping costs are very high, thanks
     
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  2. Meaghan

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    Search the threads there's plenty of info....

    The polys I've tried are as good as anything out there, particularly hexaspin twist.....soft, spinny and lasts.....there are only two factories I think in germany that make strings, yet there are so many companies. Most of these are re branded. Great price pros pro too, well worth a trial.
     
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  3. domosborn

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    Ah thanks a lot for the info, will try them- also see you are based in the UK, do you know how much shipping would be? for a reel? many thanks-
     
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  4. Meaghan

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    where are you based? In europe then just email them....US? then bigT on here deals with them.
     
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    I've tried four Pro's Pro polys:

    Black Force
    Black Out
    Hexaspin Twist
    Lethal 5

    They're all pretty good all-around strings. None of them really disappointed me in any area, and at the price, it's definitely worth trying a set or two.

    None were among my overall favorites, but that's a matter of personal preference more than a failing in the string.
     
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  6. tennis11

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    can you talk about how the black force was, and the lethal 5? is the lethal 5 shaped like lux alu rough?
     
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  7. seekay

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    Black Force 17 was uniquely stretchy for a poly. The string stretched almost as much as nylon when pulled and remained very elastic with pretty good tension maintenance. The US distributor's website claims it's comparable to RPM Blast, but I didn't find that to be the case. Black Force was much softer and springier. Compared to RPM Blast, it had a lot more power and feel, but not as much spin or control.

    Lethal 5 was annoying to string, with strong coil memory (presumably a result of the twisting). It's pentagonal, but its faces and edges aren't as clearly defined as other shaped strings (i.e. BHB7) so it looks close to round. Lethal 5 is firmer than Black Force, with better spin generation and less power, making it easier to hit out on ground strokes.

    ALU Power Rough has a round cross section and uses divots in the string to create texture to try and grab the ball. The shape is different from Lethal 5's twisted pentagonal profile. Compared to Lethal 5, ALU is firmer and more precise. Lethal 5 is probably easier for normal people, where as ALU can perform better (if the player is up to it).
     
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  8. Meaghan

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    Lethal 5 is more like BHSR.
     
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  9. fortun8son

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    Blackout and Black Force are closer to TF Black Code.
    Plus Power is a dead ringer for SPPP
    Vendetta is getting good reviews, too.
    HiTech Multifibre is also a ringer for MCS.
     
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  10. AJMORGAN

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    I've just ordered from the official website based in Austria. I bought 5 reels, about 15 sets of string, bag, and lots of little things and shipping was only an extra 10 euro. I am based in the UK. When you order, they send you an email and invoice for the final price, if you don't like the shipping cost, you don't have to pay and lose nothing. Really good store.
     
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  11. domosborn

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    ah fantastic, thank you so much for the helpful info and the reviews are also v. helpful, if anyone else has any more experiences please share!
     
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  12. domosborn

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    bump.. anything else? will be ordering a few sets soon so will put up my thoughts, if anyone cares... :p
     
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  13. domosborn

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    bump again.... I am trying to order off site and have placed an order but havent put any payment in? had no email as of yet but was wondering If i was missing something.... trying to pay by card- if anyone could reply on here or email Meaghan maybe? please? sorry guys... thanks in advance- my german is, well- none existent and google translate is only helping a bit...
     
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  14. drkplayer122

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    I tried the gold power and the Vendetta. The gold power was a little too stiff for my liking but gave me pretty good pop, spin, and control. Vendetta OTOH was amazing. It was so soft that I only needed to drop 3 lbs (roughly 1.4 kg) from my multi/syn gut tension. Besides being really soft for a poly, it provided good power and decent spin for a poly.
     
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  15. Meaghan

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    where are you ordering from...??

    in UK i can get the stuff on 3bay or I order from racket depot uk or W&D strings. In the US BigT does it @ big t tennis.

    Ive tried to order from Germany and had some problems with emails etc they just didnt answer. Most of the time you can pay by paypal, 'tennis man' is another in Germany, or the official website is www arfaian com

    I would look at big t tennis website first it gives lots of info and their related strings. Ive tried a few, blackout=black code, lethal5=bhsr, blackforce=rpm blast, hexaspin twist=barb wire (with better longevity), plus power=sppp........
     
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  16. domosborn

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    I am also in UK, trying to order from arfain but really struggling, saying I have an order but no email, and no way of paying, i selected vorkasse (card?!?) but not sure :S prices seem better than on racket depot...
     
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  17. domosborn

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    + if ordering from germany do I need to pay VAT? will my bill just be price+shipping?
     
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    vorkasse is advance payment - you should try to do it by paypal, i think that's the easiest way in that respect.

    i don't know if they put any orders in if you e-mail them, on their website they seem also to have an english interface, although i have never used it.
     
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  19. Meaghan

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    Its 3 quid a string or 30 a reel. In other words bloody cheap.

    Remember there's about 20 quid postage on top from germany!
     
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  20. *breaksracquet

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    Im here in the states and have bought pros pro from "RD" uk and it is cheaper than buying here in the states. It appears that when I purchased mulitple items, my VAT disappeared.

    I know I have written a few different reviews on these strings in the past...

    Red devil
    Vendetta
    Blackout
    Revoltec
    Hexaspin (nontwist)

    I enjoy their strings very, very much. Super great brand if you're on a budget like myself.
     
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  21. TennisFan1337

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    Where could I read those reviews? :)
     
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  23. Smasher08

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    I've now tried their syn gut and a hybrid with black force and syngut.

    The syngut is ok imo but very very soft - and not for me in a full bed setup since I like crisp-feeling strings.

    The black force x syngut hybrid was certainly crisp enough, but strung at 45 x 48 lbs I found it a bit too tight. I'll probably restring it at 42 x 45, and also have a set of Ichiban 1.20 to try as well.

    Sure can't complain about their value for money.
     
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  24. stringsguy

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    you can also get it from JFC-Tennis in the UK
     
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  25. Smasher08

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    Pro's Pro Black Force 1.19 x Pro's Pro Syngut 1.30

    The crosses are a very soft syngut, which makes them a great cost-effective option for hybrids. On their own they're too soft for me as I prefer some crispness. Personally, I like how their metallic grey goes with the black mains.

    The Black Force mains were promoted as a spin string akin to RPM. I don't know if that comparison is entirely fair, but I do think they're pretty solid. Strung at 45 x 48 lbs I found them too tight. That said, they were definitely spin friendly, and I'm very tempted to restring them a few pounds lower to see how they'll perform. Since they're not textured, strings like RPM and Focus Hex are imo a bit more spinny. That said, I think the tension maintenance of these strings (like Focus Hex) blows RPM Blast out of the water.

    As it stands they're very crisp (which is to be expected from such a stiff string) while also being pretty soft at the same time. There seemed to be a decent amount of feel from them (for a poly string) and they performed decently well from both the baseline and the net. I still have to try serving with them -- which I'm hesitant to do with any poly -- but they seem to perform consistently well at everything else I've tried.

    Personally, I'd still rate MSV Focus Hex as my favourite spin poly, but I'd rate these as being better than Sonic Pro and Turbo Twist (which to me is a better version of Sonic Pro) because you feel crispness and bite while still having a decent amount of feel (at least at 45 lbs!)
     
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  26. Smasher08

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    Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried Strategem? I'm wondering how it compares to Black Force.
     
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  27. domosborn

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    Hi again thinking of starting up a low cost stringing venture and starting with reels of pros pro syngut revoltec and hexaspin, does this sound an ok selction to start with? Thanks
     
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  28. fortun8son

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    FWIW
    I just strung a Wilson (k)Tour Team FX with Blackout 17 and and Gutpower16 @53/55.
    The guy was breaking NXT16 in less than 3 wks.
     
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  29. Power Player

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    Just ordered 2 sets of Plus Power. I will be comparing against SPPP which is currently in my racquet.
     
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  30. domosborn

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    look forward to that comparison, i find sppp a VERY solid string all round so if they are all as similar as some make out may well invest in some pppp- regards
     
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  31. fortun8son

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    Speaking of similar...
    I just had the chance to string two identical Head mg Radical OS.
    One with Mantis Comfort Synthetic, the other with Pro's Pro Hitec Multifiber.
    Both at 60 for a MCS fan. I'm looking forward to the feedback.
    He may just have to look closely at the printing to tell the difference.
    I've switched from Poly Plasma 1.28 to Plus Power 1.28.
    The Plus Power doesn't have that pearly sheen that SPPP has.
    Looks more like Sonic Pro.

    An easy low cost inventory could be (reels):
    Plus Power 1.28
    Blackout 1.24
    Ichiban Spin 1.21
    Syngut 1.30
    Hi Tec Multifibre 16
    Gutex Ultra 17
    $300 and you are set for a while with a broad spectrum.
    Vendetta, Hexaspin/Twist, and Gutpower are also candidates.

    BTW, the Syngut I got is translucent yellow/natural.
     
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  32. Federerkblade

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    raquet depot in uk very cheap too
     
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  33. Karstic

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    Has anyone else tried the new Nano Vendetta? I picked some up to use as a cross with BHBR, as it seems several are recommending smooth crosses with textured strings. I haven't tried that yet, but I did string it up as a full bed in a newly acquired PS 6.0 85, and was very pleased with the results. It is crisper than I expected (much to my liking), with good pop and spin. I will probably string up the BHBR hybrid in my BLX PS90 this weekend and, with a little luck (east Ky weather is iffy this time of year), give it a go.
     
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  34. BabolatTennis9

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    Im currently using the Strategem 1.35 on a Babolat AeroPro Drive GT at 55lbs. Its a great string if your looking for spin, control, and durability, it doesn't give alot of power though so you need to generate your own. Hope this helps:)
     
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  35. jibinhe

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    red devil 1.19 main crossed with Hitec Multifiber is my current string. great control, good spin, crisp yet comfortable, have some explosive power when fresh, very consistent. Best setup I have used.
    Plus power is very similar but a bit stiffer and lower power.
    Spinox has nothing except spin...don't like it at all.
    Cyber power is great control string, only if you has the power and tech to use it in the match.
     
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  36. Roforot

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    Ended up using Claycourt Plus in mains w/ Ichiban Spin in the crosses. New racquet and didn't prepare ahead of time for blocked grommets so I had to use the poly. Would rather have waited till I'm settled in w/ the frame.

    Will see how it goes...
     
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  37. Jazo

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    The Pro's Pro strings are quite good, but loose tension and playability almost from the first hit. If you got a stringing machine, you could buy a reel
     
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  38. Marcus2137

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    I just had my first hit with Pros Pro today. I bought a couple of sets to try out, with the hope of finding a good one and buying a reel.

    The first one I'm trying is Lethal 5

    I've got 2 matched Donnay XRED 94+ rackets. One strung with MSV Focus Hex 1.18. The second strung with Lethal 5 1.24.

    My first impressions today was that the Lethal 5 is noticeably softer than the MSV, despite being a thicker size. It was obvious from the first hit.

    I also found Lethal 5 to have a lot more pop than the MSV. I was having to swing through more with the MSV, but was able to swing a little more casually and get as much or more pace with the Lethal 5.

    Spin seem very comparable. I noticed a little more ball movement on ground strokes with the Lethal 5, but the difference was subtle. The only difference I really found was on second serves. My topspin serve was definitely dipping and kicking more with the Lethal 5 than the MSV.

    Even after just being strung a few days and playing once today, the Lethal 5 is slightly looser than the MSV, so I'm curious how much tension it will loose in the next week or so.
     
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  39. fortun8son

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    Red Devil is supposed to be comparable to RedCode.
    Is this true, or just hype?

    Just ordered a reel of Vendetta. Couldn't resist the sale price. :)
     
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  40. ckcgary

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    I just tried full bed Plus Power 1.23 on K90 @54/51lb last night. The string is softer & less spin than SPPP and SPPP is crisper. If I want to increase crisp feel, any suggestion? Will cross with OGSM help? Thank you.
     
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  41. Davis Cup Fan

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    Just wondering if there is any pros pro string like babolat pro hurricane feel?
     
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  42. Davis Cup Fan

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    Just wondering if there is a pros pro string like babolat pro hurricane feel?
     
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  43. fortun8son

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    I'm thinking that the closest would be Ichiban Spin.
    More like PHT, but in the same ballpark.
    It has it's own properties, owing to it's five-strand, twisted, fused construction.

    It's too bad that Pro's Pro has never submitted their strings to RSI/USRSA for testing.
    I'd love to see the numbers.
     
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  44. Jocke

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    @fortun8son...what is in your opinion the most arm-friendly multi and poly from pro's pro?
     
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    I think Hi-Tec Multifibre is the same string as Mantis Comfort Synthetic. Both offer gut like softness.
     
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  46. fortun8son

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    Both are also low powered and short lived.

    Mikeler also tested the GutPower1.30 and Gutex Ultra17.
    GutPower didn't pass(too stiff) but the Gutex Ultra got high marks.
    He might even be using it had he not discovered Discho Microfibre. :)
    I just got a reel of the Gutex Ultra 17 to use as my go-to racquetball multi and as a power cross for poly.

    Of the polys, Vendetta, Blackout, and PlusPower all seem quite friendly.
    The only issue is tension maintenance, but that could be said for many high priced strings as well.
     
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  47. ckcgary

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    Anyone can help?:roll:
     
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  48. fortun8son

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    Hybrid with OGSM could, indeed, help.
    String the crosses higher than the mains.
     
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  49. ckcgary

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    Thanks fortun8son. Any other suggestion to gain ball control with Plus Power?:)
     
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  50. fortun8son

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    I've only used the 1.28 and usually hybrid with Gamma Synthetic 16.
    For more control and crispness, I'd use Ichiban Spin/Gamma Syn16 (or OGSM for even more crisp, but less comfy).
     
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