Pro's racket specs

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by jura, Sep 14, 2005.

  1. jura

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    Here is a list of a lot of pro's racket specs, taken at the French Open stringing service:
    (It's a bit confusing to read, but I had a lot of work with it, now you have to concentrate, too:) )

    Player grip size weight(unstrung) balance(unstrung) Lengthcm String brand String type diameter Tension
    Gaudio, Gaston (ARG ) 4 363 30.8 68.7 KIRSCHBAUM SUPER SMASH 1.30 27/27
    Nadal, Rafael (ESP ) 2 321 32.2 68.5
    BABOLAT TOUR DURALAST 1.35 25/24
    Agassi, Andre (USA ) 343 32 68.5
    LUXILON BB ALU POWER 1.25 27/27
    Moya, Carlos (ESP ) 3 307 36.6 68.5
    LUXILON ORIGINAL 1.30 28/28
    Canas, Guillermo (ARG ) 3 355 30.9 70.8 KIRSCHBAUM SUPER SMASH 1.30 24/24
    Robredo, Tommy (ESP ) 3 339 32 69.8 25/24
    Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS ) 3 317 32.1 69.7
    POLYSTAR ENERGY 24/23
    Stepanek, Radek (CZE ) 3 348 30.1 68.6
    PACIFIC PRIME GUT 16 28/26
    Johansson, Thomas (SWE ) 3 333 30.9 68.4 LUX / BAB ALU POWER/VS TEAM 1.25/1.30 27/27
    Ancic, Mario (CRO ) 2 350 30.3 68.5 BAB / LUX VS/ALU POWER 1.30/1.25 26/25
    Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI ) 3 346 30.2 70.3 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 27/27
    Massu, Nicolas (CHI ) 3 345 31.1 69.9 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 23.5/23.5
    Ferrer, David (ESP ) 2 332 32.1 70.7 LUXILON ORIGINAL 1.30 22/22
    Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA ) 3 348 31.5 70.5 BAB / LUX VS / ALU POWER 1.30/1.25 22/21
    Kiefer, Nicolas (GER ) 3 343 32.6 69.1 BABOLAT VS TEAM / Ballistic PM 1.27/1.25 28/27
    Volandri, Filippo (ITA ) 3 343 30.8 68.4 LUXILON ORIGINAL 1.30 20/20
    Spadea, Vincent (USA ) 3 349 30 68.3 PRINCE / LUX Natural gut/BB alu power 1.35/1.25 34/34
    Rochus, Olivier (BEL ) 3 325 31.1 69.9 LUXILON BIG BANG ALU POWER 1.25 23/22
    Srichaphan, Paradorn (THA ) 4 336 30.2 68.5 LUX / BAB Alu power / VS TOUCH 1.25/1.30 24.5/23.5
    Melzer, Jurgen (AUT ) 4 316 31 70.8 Muster/ISP TVP 1-39/professionnal 1.30/1.20 30/30
    Malisse, Xavier (BEL ) 3 315 31.4 71.5 BABOLAT FIBERTOUR 1.30 29/29
    Andreev, Igor (RUS ) 3 323 32.3 69.9 BABOLAT 25/24
    Soderling, Robin (SWE ) 4 364 31.3 68.9 LUXILON BB ALU POWER ROUGH 1.25 27/27
    Mirnyi, Max (BLR ) 4 352 30.4 68.3 WIL / LUX Natural 16/alu power 1.30/1.25 21/21
    Beck, Karol (SVK ) 3 336 30.8 68.2 BABOLAT VS TOUCH 1.30 28/27
    Rusedski, Greg (GBR ) 4 350 30.8 68.5 BABOLAT VS 1.30 24.5/24.5
    Saulnier, Cyril (FRA ) 3 340 31.2 70.2 HEAD NAURAL GUT 26/25
    Llodra, Michael (FRA ) 2 326 31 6.7 LUX / WIL Alu Power/Natural Gut 1.25/1.30 21/23
    Horna, Luis (PER ) 3 339 30.7 68.6 LUXILON BB ALU POWER ROUGH 1.25 25/25
    Carlsen, Kenneth (DEN ) 3 342 31 68.8 BABOLAT VS TEAM 1.30 32/31
    Martin, Alberto (ESP ) 3 316 31.8 69.9 LUXILON ORIGINAL 1.30 23.5/21.5
    Schuettler, Rainer (GER ) 3 339 30.9 BDE POLYSTAR 1.30? 26/25
    Karlovic, Ivo (CRO )
    5 350 31 68.4 LUX / BAB ALU POWER/VS TEAM 1.25/1.30 25/25
    Acasuso, Jose (ARG ) 4 332 31.1 68.4 HEAD FXP 17 25/26
    Ginepri, Robby (USA ) 3 342 31.6 69.8 BABOLAT Ballistic PM / VS TEAM 1.30/1.30 28/28
    Ventura, Santiago (ESP ) 3 318 33 69.5 LUXILON BIG BANGER ORIGINAL 1.30 27/27
    Monaco, Juan (ARG ) 3 346 31.2 68.5 YONEX TG TOUGH ERID 1.30 25/25
    Mathieu, Paul-Henri (FRA ) 4 332 32 68.4 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 28/27
    Koubek, Stefan (AUT ) 3 330 32.8 69.5 ?SYNT ? 23/23
    Wessels, Peter (NED ) 4 339 30.5 68.5 BABOLAT VS TEAM 1.30 26/26
    Mantilla, Felix (ESP ) 3 318 33.7 69.9 LUXILON BIG BANGER ORIGINAL 1.30 23/21
    Garcia-Lopez Guillermo 4 332 31.5 68.8 HEAD ULTRA TOUR 16L 1.27 24/23
    Sanguinetti, Davide (ITA ) 3 327 32.2 71.1 KIRSHBAUM COMPETITION 1.30 20/20
    Sargsian, Sargis (ARM ) 4 352 31.1 69.7 LUX / WIL Alu power/natural GUT 1.25/1.30 25/25
    Schalken, Sjeng (NED ) 5 360 28.5 68.7 BABOLAT VS TOUCH 1.30 27/27
    Kuerten, Gustavo (BRA ) 3 347 32.2 68.5 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 21/23
    Haehnel, Jerome (FRA ) 4 338 31.1 68.1 TECNIFIBRE SPINFIRE MAXI POWER 1.25 24/23
    Arthurs, Wayne (AUS ) 3 308 32 69.9 BAB / LUX VS TEAM/BB TIMO 1.27/1.10 25/25
    Tipsarevic, Janko (SCG ) 4 326 31 68.4 TECNIFIBRE X3 TDI 1.33 24/23
    Burgsmuller, Lars (GER ) 3 346 30.6 70 LUXILON ORIGINAL 1.30 25/24
    Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI ) 3 348 31.3 68.4 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 31/29
    Benneteau, Julien (FRA ) 3 338 32.6 69.8 BABOLAT Ballistic PM / VS team 1.25/1.30 28/27
    Sluiter, Raemon (NED ) 3 335 32 69.9 PACIFIC POWER 1.35? 24/24
    Vliegen, Kristof (BEL ) 3 335 31.5 69.8 TECNIFIBRE Spinfire MP/ X-one biphase 1.25/1.24 25/24
    Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE ) 4 349 30.6 70 LUX / BAB ALU POWER/VS TEAM 1.25/1.30 23/23
    Behrend, Tomas (GER ) 3 338 29.7 68.4 LUXILON BB ALU POWER 1.25 23/22
    Saretta, Flavio (BRA ) 3 329 31.9 70 BABOLAT Ballistic PM / VS TEAM 1.30 29/29
    Sanchez, David (ESP ) 3 340 31.5 68.6 LUXILON ORIGINAL 24/23
    Mahut, Nicolas (FRA ) 4 339 31 68.5 WILSON/TF Natural16/Spinfire Maxi Power 1.30/1.25 23/23
    Nieminen, Jarkko (FIN ) 3 350 30.4 70.7 LUXILON BB ALU POWER 1.25 25/25
    Luczak, Peter (AUS ) 4 355 30.6 70.1 BABOLAT POLYMONO/VS 1.30/1.30 20/20
    Serra, Florent (FRA ) 3 336 31.5 70.1 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 27/26
    Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA ) 5 347 30 69.5 LUX / TF ALU POWER / X-ONE 1.25/1.24 24/24
    Djokovic, Novak (SCG ) 3 324 31.1 68.2 TECNIFIBRE X ONE 1.24 25/24
    Tursunov, Dmitry (RUS ) 4 343 30.5 68.3 LUXILON MonotecSupersense 1.12
    Patience, Olivier (FRA ) 3 324 33.3 68.3 LUXILON BIG BANGER ORIGINAL 1.30 26/26
    Blake, James (USA) 4 364 30.2 68.5 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 31/31
    BHUPATHI MAHESH 4 348 31 68.9 WILSON NATURAL 1.30 27/27
    ROGER-VASSELIN Edouard 3 322 31.9 69.7 BABOLAT Pro hurricane/ VS PLUS 1.25/1.25 29/29
    BLACK WAYNE 3 336 30 68.4 BABOLAT Tour duralast/ XCEL Premium 1.25/1.30 29/29
    BRIAN MIKE 4 354 29.7 69.8 TECNIFIBRE NRG 2 1.24 23/24
    BRIAN BOB 5 354 29.8 69.8 LUX / TF ALU POWER / NRG 2 1.25/1.24 24/25
    DI PASQUALE ARNAUD 4 329 30.6 68.5 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 25/24
    SQUILLARI FRANCO 4 337 31 68.5 LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 25/25
    DEVILDER NICOLAS 3 340 30.5 68.4 LUXILON BB ALU POWER 1.25 23/23
    KNOWLE JULIAN 3 337 32.7 68.8 LUXILON BB ALU POWER 1.25 17/17
    WOODBRIDGE TODD 3 353 30.7 69.8 WILSON NATURAL 1.25 24/24
    NESTOR DAVID 5 375 29.5 69.3 BAB / LUX VS Team thermogut/alu powerBB 1.25 26/26
    ZIMONJIC NENAD 4 338 30.1 69.6 BAB / LUX vs team/BBaluPowerOD2 12 1.27/?
    ULLYETT KEVIN 4 357 29.5 69.5 WILSON NATURAL 1.30 21/21
    Clément, Arnaud (FRA) 4 312 31.3 69.9 BABOLAT VS TEAM 1.30 24/24
     
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  2. crosscourt

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    Jura -- very interesting and many thanks for going to the trouble of posting this. Other than out and out volleyers, most racket grips are size 3. Most racket weights are either around 12ozs or less. Many of the players seem to be playing with rackets that are about the weight of the rackets they appear to be playing with eg Davydenko and Djokovic.

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  3. jura

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    Regarding the grip sizes I'm not that sure that all of them are correct. In the list are just indicated the grip sizes written on the rackets. But as we know lot of players have customized grips, some of them even with half grip sizes.
    Regarding the weight I was also surprised that some players really use quit light weighted frames.But still lot of them have very heavy sticks, (look at Blake!).
     
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  4. martin

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    Finally!!!
     
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  5. Lambsscroll

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    Go here to calculate


    convert.french-property.co.uk/
     
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  6. Ash Doyle

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    Keep in mind these weights are unstrung.
     
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    How much weight, on average, would you say is added when you add strings?
     
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  8. Ash Doyle

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    From what I've seen on my racquets it adds around .5 ounces, but it depends on the string type and gauge, although I wouldn't expect it to vary too much.
     
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  9. Ash Doyle

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    I've been messing with those numbers to convert them to the inches, ounces, and points Headlight measurements that I'm more used to and here are some interesting numbers:

    Nadal's racquet unstrung is 11.3 ounces and 8 pts. head light. Agassi's unstrung is 12.1 ounces and 8 pts. headlight. Gaudio's is 12.8 ounces and 11 pts. head light. Moya's is 10.8 ounces and 8 points head heavy.
     
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  10. shiny

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    Wow. Awesome post.
    The balance seems to average between 30-32. What does that mean in Tennis Warehouse terms (points Head light, even, Head heavy)?
     
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  11. gonzalocatalino

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    nice post Jura!!!!

    Blake and gaudio´s racquets are the heaviest (364 and 363 grs.)...
    And moya´s racquet is really light...and head heavy
     
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  12. tom-selleck

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    how many grams in an ounce??? i did my own vague math and came to about 25 grams. but that's either wrong or far too imprecise.

    does anyone know???

    and curious as to balance, but doesn't it matter how long the racquet is???

    echo others and say thank you for posting this.
     
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  13. Ash Doyle

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    This page can convert grams to ounces:

    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7116/jv_gr2oz.html

    Actually, Daniel Nestor had the heaviest at 375 grams (13.2 ounces) unstrung! That racquet was also 15 pts. head light unstrung.

    Balance does have to take into account the length. You figure the center point of the racquet. Then the balance point. If the balance point is towards the handle from the center then the racquet is Head Light. If the balance point is towards the head from the center then it is Head Heavy. Each 1/8 of an inch from that center is one point. So, if a racquet balances one inch towards the handle of the center of a racquet then that racquet is 8 pts. head light.
     
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  14. tom-selleck

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    thanks to the help of another poster, i found out it's 28.33 grams.
     
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    BRIAN MIKE 4 354 29.7 69.8 TECNIFIBRE NRG 2 1.24 23/24

    BRIAN BOB 5 354 29.8 69.8 LUX / TF ALU POWER / NRG 2 1.25/1.24 24/25

    WOODBRIDGE TODD 3 353 30.7 69.8 WILSON NATURAL 1.25 24/24

    NESTOR DAVID 5 375 29.5 69.3 BAB / LUX VS Team thermogut/alu powerBB 1.25 26/26

    all doubles specialists, all heavy, head-light racquets.... i
     
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  16. tom-selleck

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    my math on head-light and head-heavy for the more extreme players =

    daniel nestor 29.5 cm balance, 69.3 cm length. so middle = 34.65 cm, so 5.15 cm head light, 2.54 cm per inch. so 2 inches head-light. a point = 1/8 inch. so 16 points headlight (sorry, did someone say this earlier).

    carlos moya 36.6 on 68.5. so, 36.6 on 34.25 = 2.35 cm headlight. so 0.9 of inch. so 7 points head heavy.

    hope those are right.????
     
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  17. louis netman

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    figure that strings will be about 15 to 18 gms...
     
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  18. Ash Doyle

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    acidental post. blah blah blah.
     
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  19. Ash Doyle

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    Moya's racquet is somewhere between 7 and 8 points head heavy. ...and that's unstrung! How head heavy is it strung!?
     
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  20. BreakPoint

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    Man, Nestor's racquet must be almost 14 oz. strung!! How does he get that racquet up in position for all of those quick volley exchanges at the net?
     
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  21. Ash Doyle

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    For those like me who are used to ounces and such here are the stats on Daniel Nestor's racquet (the heaviest racquet on this list):

    13.2 ounces unstrung, 15 pts. headlight unstrung, standard 27", strung with Babolat Thermogut/BB Alu Power at 57 pounds mains and crosses.
     
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  22. tom-selleck

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  23. shiny

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    So given that all the rackets are at least 68.5 cm (middle 34.25) and most of the balance points are 30-32 then one conclusion (from this layman) is that most pros use head-light rackets (unstrung) in a range of 13 points to 7 points.

    How many points does the average string shift the balance towards the head?

    Now, if that's true then when a pro adds lead to 3 and 9 then they must be adding a similar amount inside the handle to keep it head-light right?
    Or have pros mostly stopped adding lead tape at 3 and 9?

    Thanks all!
     
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  24. Aeropro joe

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    awesome post thanks a lot for this great info!
     
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  25. Silky Sampras

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    Jura, very cool...

    No FED on the list!! Does he have his own personal stringer? Does anyone know?
     
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  26. doriancito

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    i would lie somone to change the tension of KG to LBS
     
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  27. crazylevity

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    yeah I noticed a certain R. Federer missing from the list...

    somehow most pple would be interested to find out what he uses.
     
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  28. jura

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    As far as I know Fed never uses the official string service at a tournament.
     
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  29. tennisgeek505

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    what about federes specs
     
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  30. Richie Rich

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    notice that these guys use small grips - mainly 3/8 and 1/4? thought there would have been more 1/2's.
     
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  31. doriancito

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    this threads are very popular
     
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  32. 156MPHserve

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    nadal's grip size is 2...
     
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  33. Return_Ace

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    i've heard that people who swing western like to feel their fingers all the way around the handle........ i think guga used a grip size 2 too.....
     
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  34. crosscourt

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    One thing about the specs posted is that we don't know whether the models that they use are stock to start with. So if a player's racket only weighs 10ozs before he puts the lead where he wants it the amount of lead added is much greater than we are thinking is the case. In a way it makes sense to me that this is what would happen because it gives the player the chance to customise his racket much more flexibly for the conditions. I would love a 10.5 oz Prestige Classic that I could add lead to according to whether I was playing on clay or a hard court, and according to whether it was the middle of winter or not. It would never weigh more than the stock PC available to the public, and usually less. But the extra weight where I wanted it on that racket as and when I wanted it would be a dream.

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  35. jura

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    Hey crosscourt: TFight 325 is a great racket, isn't it?! Did you customized it? Mines are 348 gramms without strings.
     
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  36. Richie Rich

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    i found it solid and stable enough that i didn't have to add lead to mine. nice frame. not very popular in my neck of the woods so they are going cheap at the pro shops!!!
     
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  37. crosscourt

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    Jura -- I like Prestige type rackets and the TFight 325 is the best that you can get of that type at the moment. I haven't really customised it at all. I love the fact that I can play it stock without a dampener.
     
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  38. jura

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    What I love most is the 1 cm extra length. So I dn't have to enlarge it as my older sticks:)
     
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  39. La Bomba

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    Federers specs have been discussed about 100 times, so stop being lazy.
     
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  40. doriancito

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    yeah feds specs are all over just cause he is #1...WTF! i was most distracted by la bomba's avatar
     
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  41. Return_Ace

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    lmao, same here, man that avatar's addictive, get rid of it......
     
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  42. SAMPRAS

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    What Abot The Federer"s Rackuet??
     
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  43. Vamz

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    Is there anyway I can post a file, cause I have this info in an excel file, it's much easier to read... You could email me if you want it.


    surapan1@msu.edu
     
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  44. Marius_Hancu

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    be intelligent. if no one posts it, is because they don't know it.
    and don't post questions in the sticky, OK?
    that's for reference, not for dialogue.
     
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  45. SAMPRAS

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    SORRY FRIEND;)
     
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  46. The_Dark_Knight

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    Not just because he's number one; because he could be one of the greatest players of all time.
     
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  47. hermano05

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    im becoming confused...
    nestor's racket balance is 29.5cm, right? well then 29.5 from the center? like the other guy said. well, if 2.54cm is one inch, them 29.5cm = 11inches. if one point = 1/8 inch then 11inches = 88points!! well, as i understood reading what Ash Doyle wrote: "Balance does have to take into account the length. You figure the center point of the racquet. Then the balance point. If the balance point is towards the handle FROM THE CENTER then the racquet is Head Light. If the balance point is towards the head FROM THE CENTER then it is Head Heavy."

    well, then nestor racquet is 88points?!?!? please, somebody explain me
     
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  48. That's pretty faulty. In that case, you'd see negative numbers pertaining to balance points that are on the other side of the frame's midpoint. Also, in that case, *all* of the numbers would convert to an exteme points figure. Usually, when you arrive at such grotesque numbers, it means you're doing something wrong. A metric balance point is measured from the butt end of the frame and taken unstrung unless told differently.

    To convert from points head-light/head-heavy to metric balance, not only do you have to perform another step than you did, but it's so much simpler to keep with metric measurements alltogether. All you have to realize is that a lower number = more head-light, etc.
     
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  49. hermano05

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    now i could understand, thank you very much!
     
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  50. Ash Doyle

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    I appoligize my description wasn't worded well. For the example, if the balance is 11 inches, that is 11 inches from the butt, that puts it 1 1/2 inches on the head-light side FROM THE CENTER. That would be about 12 pts head light.

    Sorry I didn't make it clear which number I meant to be in relation to the center.
     
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