Pros who use 'Lite' rackets

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  1. LeeD

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    Problem here is lots of us copy what the pros do, but we don't face and hit 135 mph serves, 85 mph groundies, and run like the wind.
    So should we use exactly what the pros use?
    I hit 100mph serves, and 65 mph second serves. Mostly 60 mph forehands and slower sliced backhands.
    And I don't face 135 mph serves.
     
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  2. Venetian

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    Not true for someone who can't effectively use a 330 gram racquet. A lot of average to tall guys don't seem to fully grasp that racquet weight is relative to the weight/height of the individual swinging it. There are shorter/lighter pros and joes that use heavier racquets, but I think the norm is for most shorter people to use light sticks. At 5'5" and 135lbs, I just cannot effectively swing a racquet over 11oz. I can swing it, but not effectively enough to generate the kind of topspin needed to keep the ball in play. The racquet I use right now is 10.2oz and about 4pts headlight, and I have no trouble hanging with my buddy who's 6'5", 200+lbs, and played college tennis several years ago. In fact, a few years back I hit with a local D1 college kid who used a stock Wilson K-Surge. So a lighter stick can still be used at higher levels of play.
     
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  3. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    I have gained power, basically..

    I don't seem to have lost anything at this point.

    The X-7 is still a little HL, static weight is about the same and the sw is only 327, so it's hardly a Hyper Hammer!

    biggest advantage is on serve, but I can still really swing out on my ground strokes and the extra power is obvious..

    I'm not having any control issues at all..
     
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  4. Hi I'm Ray

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    What happened to kiteboard anyways? Haven't seen him around lately
    One of my college teammates used a stock Hyper Hammer 5.2 or 5.3 or whatever -- the .# naming system was ridiculous. (We didn't have too many tweener choices back then)
     
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  5. Boricua

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    I also like rackets in the 11.3-11,5 weight, 320-330 swingweight and head heavy. But I like stiifer, thicker frame rackets that are arm friendly. Not many around with these characteristics at least in stock form. I will try Organix 7. 104 head size seems big but maybe it works all right.
     
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  6. Boricua

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    I am still getting the Organix 7 next week hopefully. But, yesterday at 3 am I woke up and for some strange reason the 104 head came to my mind:confused: and I had second thoughts about this racket.
    So, do you find the Organix 7 maneuvarable and fast (not clunky)? I ask because I like to play singles and don't want to play with an oversize frying pan that I can''t handle. Pros like Serena and Venus seem to handle 104 head rackets well and I think Agassi played with an oversize Radical if memory serves me well. So, that's my reference point.:)
    Also, does anybody know of any current or past pro that plays with rackets with more than a 100 head size?
     
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  7. TennisCJC

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    Marion Bartolli plays with a racket that has a head the size of a beach ball and it is thick as a 2x4. Didn't Chang play the prince OS early in his career?

    If you don't like the 104 o7, why don't you try the o8 300g model
     
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  8. ART ART

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    How do you know his racket specs ?
     
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  9. Power Player

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    They have been posted in a few spots.
     
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  10. Boricua

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    I tried the 08 when it came out and it seemed too powerful. But I could give it a try again and vary string and tension. I like the specs and head size of the 08 alot but Chris Edwards says the 07 is more controlled and he prefers it much better so I went with the 07. We will see.:)
     
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  11. ART ART

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    Point one...

    last time I held is racket, it was something like 355grams...
     
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    Ok, so what are his specs? I mean, you could tell the weight by holding it? Or were you stringing?
     
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  13. ART ART

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    I have strung for a couple of players last year in a ATP 250 tournament in EU...

    And yes, we can measure some specs, like weight and balance, not SW because we didn't have there a prince or a babolat check machine.

    It was 355gr strung+overgrip, balance: 32.6cm.
     
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  14. Relinquis

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    What's the count so far?!

    so... of the current male pros we have 3(?) so far who use 'light' sticks? Say sub 330 'unstrung' or however you want to define* it?

    interesting to hear others' experiences

    personally, not a pro, I find as the match goes on i can serve and hit groundstrokes more powerfully with my heavier stick (an old 93" Prince) than i can with my steam 100**. on my forehand i tend to hit through more so the swing weight helps. when i use spin it is to kick forward rather than to hit a high clearance ball.

    if you are a healthy adult (man) perhaps a heavier stick circa 12 oz makes sense. during long 5 set matches i would have though that your legs and concentration would give out before your arm would if you have decent technique.

    More headlight = Heavier stick if you want to keep swingweight high

    I prefer headlight balance though, even when sticks are heavy. allows me to lead with the handle more through my strokes. i don't like the 'club-like' feel of headheavy sticks.


    * choose your metric, i'm not ideological about this topic...
    ** Will probably customise this to increase both swing weight and make it even more headlight.
     
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  15. corners

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    Art Art, have you considered bringing a tape measure and the SwingTool app to the stringing room with you so that you can measure swingweight without a Bab or Prince machine?
     
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    I think he is busy working on one of those lawsuits?
     
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  17. ART ART

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    Taking the weight and the balance, it's easy and fast! ... and we get no problems from the owners of the rackets, since they don't see it...

    Using other devices on the rackets, will allways take much more time and could give us some problems if they see it.

    I can even tell you that some players bring us strings without any name on it... even if they have some sponsor.
     
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  18. BreakPoint

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    That's how Kimiko Date can compensate for her lack of physical power by using a powerful racquet - the power comes from the heavy weight. A physically powerful person can crush the ball using just about any racquet, even a really light one.
     
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  19. Hi I'm Ray

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    Lawsuits?
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  20. Power Player

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    I agree.

    With breakpoint.

    Wow, a first. Lol. But he is right.
     
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