Pro's with lowest swingweight

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  1. big brenda

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    Does anyone have more insight about pro's using low swingweights. Are there a few pro's who use a racket with a swingweight lower than 320 strung.

    I now use a heavy headlight racket with a low sw of 309 and i like it very much. Is there a pro from ATP or WTA who uses something similar??
     
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  2. LeeD

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    You can go to shop TW, hit a racket company, go to the pros using/endorsing the racket, and look up the SW of the racket.
    However, you should never believe what you read.
     
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  3. Funbun

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    There is a rumor that Verdasco used to have a really low swingweight, around 300 or so. But that's the only real extremity out there. Most people on the ATP top 100 have swingweights around 350 or 360, I'm sure.

    travlerjm did some sort of analysis of this a bit back.

    ^^Sorry LeeD, most pros don't match the specs of the racquet you buy in stores; they use mostly pro stock, painted, and customized racquets.

    But seriously, if your technique is fine, then high swingweights are no problem at all. Pros can beat you with frying pans, after all.
     
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  4. corners

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    Verdasco is the only one I can think of from the current players. He was swinging at 315 (strung) swingweight, 31.7cm balance and 345 grams the last time anyone got hold of his frames. There are rumors he's added some lead in the head since then.

    Greg Raven has measured several sticks from previous generations and I recall that some 90s players were swinging in the low 320 range with heavy, headlight sticks (Rusedski, Kafelnikov). High swingweight seems conducive to the modern baseline game, even with the women. Henin swung at 350, the Williams sisters over 370, etc.

    High swingweight makes it much easier to change the direction of the ball from the baseline, and improves stability against heavy spin shots, both critical in today's game. But that is relative to the speed of incoming shots. If a pro needs 350 swingweight to handle the shots they face comfortably, a rec player might be fine with 325 at the 4.0 or 4.5 level. The pros are generally bigger and stronger than us, too, so they can swing a much heavier stick much faster than us, a big advantage. Us lesser mortals usually can't swing the heavy sticks fast enough to be effective with them, and there is definitely something to be said for low-swingweight, headlight sticks, especially for all-court play.
     
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  5. LeeD

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    Funbun...
    Somehow, you gotta separate you imagination from my posts, otherwise, you will never understand what you read.
    Did I say the PROS spec their rackets to the production numbers? Or did you imagination think that, and you believed in it?
     
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    Hi Brenda,

    What is your racket? Not sure if that would turn up any clues on the detective trail but at least I/we could look the rest of your racquet specs and go from there. It's ironic that there is so little published about what the women are using, when in fact, that might actually be a better pool of data for us "lesser mortals" as corners so aptly illustrates, to look at. Also cant help but mention, If you like your racquet very much, then you have already found what so many of us are looking for. If you stick around here, or look to a pro player for a validation of your choice, you might mess that up with get a bad case a demo fever, or indecisionitis, or you might even end up... in the string forum. Fair warning.

    -Jack
     
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  7. Hidious

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    Such wise advice...
     
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  8. daved

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    strength and swingweight

    Henis uses a low static weight and high swingweight.

    From the specs I've seen on Greg Raven's site, most WTA women are using SW at the high end relative to almost all retail racquets.

    G. Sabatini is one of my playing role models. All-court game, heavy groundstrokes, nice volleys (serve is another story). She had one of the highest static weights and SW of any player of her era. She's something like 5'9" and 135# and certainly was no gym rat.

    I'm 5'11" and 155#. Pretty sure I am as strong as Henin and Sabatini.

    I find with a SW of less than 330 or so (low by pro stds.) I struggle to hit a heavy, penetrating ball from the baseline. Even with a 12 oz.+, head-light racquet with lower SW, still hard for me to get the heavier ball going through the court.
     
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    Pure myth, I'm afraid.

    The balance of properly weighted players rackets is what makes them easy to hold and swing. Moreover, their swingweight compensates for any reduction in swing speed compared to lighter rackets. And even then there's the option of loosening string tension to further compensate (remember, these frames are designed for control so you can do it and still maintain your shots' precision).

    The reason professional players use rackets with these specs is that they're the most arm-friendly, most conducive to hitting a full array of shots (groundies, volleys, serves, spins, power, finesse, etc.), and most able to hit powerful shots while maintaining control.

    What rackets with these weights will NOT do, however, is indulge poor technique. And what they will do is reward you for setting up early, "throwing" the racket at the ball, and following through properly.
     
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    16,000 posts. I would say, you imagine you have a life and have a hard time serparating your computer reality from your imagination. Really sad.
     
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  11. HiRO

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    Well said Smasher^^

    I have used racquets ranging from 9ounces and 300 sw to 14.8 ounces and near 400 sw. The difference was proper technique was required with the heavier stick. I really didn't notice a huge difference in mobility on reaction shots once my muscles adapted to the sw.

    Don't just pick up a heavy stick and try to blast away with improper technique, but rather let yourself slowly get used to it. Once you use a racquet that can win the war against the ball you will most likely enjoy tennis more...

    HiRO^_^
     
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  12. 2ndServe

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    didn't someone have a rather long list of pro sw for us a few years ago?
     
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    including what you write?
     
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    well you said never believe what you read and then you say you will never understand what you read....should they not believe that?? or is that your faulty imagination?
     
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    "Pure myth, I'm afraid. "

    not a myth....very likely a lie, though.

    i have used 350 swingweight rackets and 299 swingweight rackets and i hit differently with each. better spin on serve with the light racket and more consistent OHBH under pressure. better power though with the heavy rackets. not pure myth.
     
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    maybe you can stop rumoring and email fernando to find out for sure. the rumor stuff doesnt help anyone.
     
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