PS85 Hybrid Advice

Discussion in 'Strings' started by Bowtiesarecool, Sep 22, 2012.

  1. Bowtiesarecool

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    I'm looking for a decent soft poly/multi hybrid setup for my PS85.

    1: Going multi mains/poly cross. I've tried bbo mains and duraflex crosses at 54/49 and liked it but want a little more "feel". It also seems spin potential is less consistent with syngut/multi crosses as they fray and create more friction for the mains.

    2: I plan on using string savers so the poly doesn't chew through the mains.

    3: Ultimately, I want to drop the tension to 45/43 ish. I understand string savers installed will increase the tension, so I need to string the racquet a few lbs looser.

    4: I don't like spending tons of cash on ultrapremiumhyperlatest=greatest strings that may get me an extra 2 hours of play.

    I'm looking at http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Pri...String_Yel_Nat/descpageACPRINCE-PHPEXP16.html

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Prince_Tour_Blend_16_String/descpageACPRINCE-PTBLEN17.html

    Has anyone tried these?

    What else might be a good, low cost option? I'm not opposed to buying full sets and cutting them in half as long as I don't have to spend more than $25-30 for both sets of string.

    Can string savers relatively easily, be removed and recycled when cutting out old string? $8 seems like an awful lot to spend every time one restrings.

    I'm going to install 72 savers across 8m/9x slightly above center. Can anyone give me an accurate estimate of how much this will increase the tension?
     
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  2. Up&comer

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    I've got a couple questions.

    First, what level player are you and what is your playing style. What strings have you tried before and really liked?

    Secondly, why are you limiting yourself to pre-packaged hybrids?

    Lastly, why so many string savers?
     
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  3. Bowtiesarecool

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    I am ~4.0, all court, eastern/semi-western fh, 1h bh.

    If you had read my op, I said I have tried and liked bbo+prince duraflex as a hybrid.

    Again, not to be rude but if you had read my post, I said I was not opposed to buying full sets of different strings and cutting them in half.

    I've never used string savers and don't think installing them in less than half of the stringbed was, "too many". I am using them to protect multi mains in the area that I find the most wear on my stringbed.
     
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  4. schap02

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    I like Gamma TNT 17/MSV Co-Focus 1.18 for my multi/poly hybrid when not using Gut - I have at tighter string pattern at 18 x 20 -

    maybe TNT 16/Co-focus 1.23 for your setup - retail costs fall around $18 for the two sets of string....

    worthy of a try - not sure on tension for the 85, maybe 57/55?
     
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  5. Bobby Jr

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    I went through about 15 different options of string before I found a poly/syn-gut hybrid that worked well for me on this frame.

    I use Weiss Cannon Silverstring (1.25) and Gosen OG Sheep micro 16 at 49/53 (strung with 10% pre-stretch for the mains).

    It is awesome. It lasts a lot longer than other set-ups I tried including any of the Luxilon strings. Some of the Luxilons played better off the bat and had a little more spin but were done within a couple of hours (3-5). The combo I am using above goes twice that or more and also doesn't seem to get a boaty before I cut them out.

    I also tried it flipped, with the syn-gut in the mains and the Silverstring in the crosses, but it played nowhere near as good imo.

    Even better, this combo is pretty cheap. $3.75 for a set of OG and $10.90 for Silverstring = $7.35 per restring.

    This set up is pretty soft and, as a bonus, also means you don't need to waste your time with string savers.

    www.tennis-warehouse.com/Weiss_CANNON_Silverstring_16L_125_String/descpageACGLORY-WCS125.html

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Gosen_OG-Sheep_Micro_16_String/descpageACGOSEN-OGS16.html
     
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  6. Up&comer

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    Sorry, I missed you saying you would buy separate sets. When I was asking about strings you liked, I was asking about something other than one hybrid.

    As for the string savers, 72 is a lot. Most people I know who use them end up with 15, maybe 20 string savers in. The common practice is just to put one or two where you notice the string fraying, and quite frankly, I doubt that will end up being a 8mx9c square simply because it will break before you reach that much wear across the that much of the string bed (unless you contact point changes that much, which I doubt).

    My personal favorite hybrids have been with signum pro poly plasma (regular or hex) and weisscannon black5edge with your choice of synthetic or multi cross (my favorite crosses were babolat addiction or, truthfully, any thicker synthetic).
     
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  7. tommyfr

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    I have a wilson PS tour (90) and similar grip like you, 4.5 level.

    the combo i like best is SG for mains (gosen og micro for ex) at 56, and a poly cross at 51. The sweetspot feels large, nice pocketing feel when you go flat, nice feel on serve, dropshot, volley.
     
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  8. schap02

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    Interesting, I never tried a prestretch on a poly, care to shed some light?
     
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  9. Bobby Jr

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    I've tried my tensions both with and without the 10% prestretch (it's a setting on my guy's machine). Doing it seems to manage the dip in tension you get in the first few hours of playing - at least to some extent. It's hard to make a scientific comparison as different days/weeks/conditions/temperatures/balls etc can affect how you perceive a restring to perform or age - but it seemed to hold better in the middle age period of the restring life-span.

    A string guru might discount the idea but these strings are in the mid range of stiffness for polys so maybe the potential downside isn't as marked as it would be for stiffer polys.
     
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  10. Bowtiesarecool

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    Thanks guys. I ordered two combos to try: Rip control 16/Solinco Outlast 17, and PPA 16/Silverstring 17.
     
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  11. schap02

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    Interesting, I will give it a whirl and see what I find, i generally don't pre-stretch anything but gut...we shall see
     
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