Discussion in 'Racquets' started by nns91, Nov 10, 2008.
Any comment about this stick ?
How does it compare with Pure Drive ??
Is it super heavy ?
No its not super heavy, it is very solid but also very powerful. It is also quite stiff so you need to hit the ball cleanly with good technique and no tendencies for elbow issues with this one.
I quite liked it but apart from the stiffness.
Is it much stiffer than the Pure Drive ?
one point, hardly even noticible
So it's 71. What is the maximum ? I mean I guess PDR is among the stiffest ?
How strong does your arm need to be to swing this stick ?
Good stick to swing but you need good technique and footwork to tame the power. Fun to play with.
Many here on te boards will say it's too powerful - that's an opinion. Many love it and play well with it. You may want to dabble in the Babolat Alliance thread.
does it need a super strong arm to swing ??
Just use it. I'm a 16 year old with polu and syn on it. And its fine. I find it very soft. IMO
How strong is your arm ? Like can we take it by how much weight you can lift ?
I am so anxious and cannot wait to try it. I have to wait till next week to try it so I don't know if I can swing it or not
you don't need big diesel guns to handle a stick like that. in fact depending on your technique, it may do most of the work for you.
I only weight 150, and i don't work out. You don't need to be superman to use this stick. Its just all about how you use it.
I used to play with the PDR but it just felt like I needed a much quicker forehand to get the most out of it then I was getting if that makes sense.
Ok. Thanks anyway. It kinda relieves me a lot. I cannot wait till I can try out this stick next week.
It's kinda embarrassing but believe me I weighs only 125 so probably it's my problem.
I've been playing with the PDR for the last two years and I love it. Basically, it's heavier than the standard pure drive - about 11.7 oz strung compared to about 10+ oz for the standard PD.
There's plenty of spin and power in this stick. It's good for serving and ground strokes - but also pretty versatile so you can play at the net, though you may not get as much touch as some of the more flexy rackets. It's a good racket overall - there's a reason why players of all different levels, play with it.
It's very stiff and I play with a poly hybrid (Blue Gear mains and Goosen crosses) - and the poly with the stiffness gives it a crisp feel and good spin.
I like the weight and stability of the PDR over the PD. The PD is good, but the PDR is more stable against big hitters. If you are an average sized male, you shouldn't have too much trouble with the weight of the PDR, but Demo both and find out which one you like better. The stick is a few points headlight, almost even balance, so IMHO, it doesn't swing too heavy either.
If you like extended length rackets, try the PDR+. I find the PDR+ to be great off the ground, but for some reason, the extra length threw off my serve a bit, though when I hit it right, I hit some smoking serves.
I haven't had any problems with Tennis elbow, but if you have a very sensitive arm, this stick may not be for you, or you may want to go with a gut or soft synthetic string.
If I had to point out a weakness, I'd say it's touch around the net. You may not get a lot of feel close in, but I find that you will still be rewarded at the net if you have good technique.
My two cents.
Thanks a lot man. I really appreciate that.
What do you mean by average sized ?
I don't think I have a sensitive elbow at all.
I am so excited to try out this stick. Is the difference between the long version and the standard version really obvious ? I think I got the standard version.
It's stiff, but still not the stiffest I've seen. That would be a Yamaha Secret 04 with an 84 RA flex rating!!
A dude between 5'7+ weighing about 140+ should be able to swing this racket no prob. I have a buddy who's a lot smaller and lighter than I am (I'm 5'10" about 215) and he plays well with a 12+ oz stick. Basically, I think most people (male or female) could swing this racket with no probs.
I didn't notice anything on the PDR+ from off the ground or volleys, but I did notice it on the serve. It's just seemed to get to the ball a half second slower than my standard size stick. Basically, I just needed to get used to the feel of the extra length, not really a big adjustment. Probably would have taken about a week or so - but I still decided to go with the regular length - just my preference. One thing though, I did notice that you got some extra pop from the longer stick on serves.
Thanks. I think that I got the normal version.
Is it a good idea to use 2 different rackets for my game ? I mean 2 different types
errr, no in a word. Using different sticks will throw your timing out. Demo to find what you want then buy at least two sticks the same to have an identical backup in case you pop a string. Re the PDR, it's a bludgeon rather than a scalpel. I demoed it for a week and although I liked the power I found it unpredictable and as I prefer to supply my own power I settled on the m-fil 300 instead.
Thank you. So does using 2 different stick affect a lot like does it damage my technique or something really severe ??
RE - using two sticks.
Do what feels right. Think that for most people, they benefit of having the same stick and not switching so that the feel is they same and they don't have to adjust thier swings and timing.
But some people like playing with different sticks as you see on this board, people have bags full of different sticks that they pull out eveyr once in a while - or they are always demoing and trying new sticks.
But if you only had two rackets, I would get two of the same.
So I think I made a huge mistake here. I got 2 different rackets.It means I will have trouble with timing and my swing ??
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows, it may work out okay for you. It's just easier to stay consistent when you keep things constant.
Personally, if my swing is grooved, I don't want to have to change anything when I go to my back-up/fresh racket in the middle of a match.... unless it's an intentional change, like my ball is going long so I go to a tighter strung racket. But that doens't mean that I can't play well if I play with a demo or when trying out a friend's racket.
Right. I understand what you mean. It kinda relieves me. I am in such a strange situation now.
SO you mean it also depends on your technique ?
Depends on the person. Some people switch all the time and it's no big deal.
More about personal preference.
But, if you have good overall technique, you can play well with any racket.
I still have to wait any see then, not till next week.
I am really scared now. Dude, can I have your MSN or however I can talk to you ??
You are starting to sound really wierd. Are you iphoneman? iphoneman got banned - think about it.
No. I am just too worried about my decision. Sorry !!!
I am new here so I don't really know what iphoneman did.
Look what happened to Igor Andreev's arm:
Is your arm stronger than his?
no. Ow I am totally scared. So does it mean I cannot handle this stick then ?
dude chill, anyone older then ten years old can handle it
ok. I will. Thanks for all of the suggestions.
Just post to this thread. I have alerts up.
Chill - you can handle it.
yeah, i was thinkin that too...OH LAWDY!!!
What did he do actually ?
Sorry if I was so annoying.
do a search for iphoneman in this subforum. it tells for itself.
i use the pure drive and i like it alot better then the roddick one i feel better control but no its not super heavy
Thanks for your comment.
so you think pure drive has more control than the pure drive roddick ?
yeah but the pure drive roddick gets you more power but you should try them for yourself to see which one you would want......whos iphoneman and what did he do?
Yeah, I will have a chance to try to pure drive roddick next week.
How about the control of the pure drive roddick ? I mean like how big of a difference it is between it and pure drive ?
He asked the same questions over and over and over and over again in several different threads, and was eventually banned due to his obvious egging on of people who were trying to help. Very similar to this thread.
OP, go play tennis - with whichever racquet you bought. Then come tell us how it played. Nobody here can tell you what will work for you.
Not enough to worry and fret about. go play. Either will be fine.
i've been using PDR for high school varsity tennis for 3 years.
i'm a hard server (around 110) and an aggressive baseliner.
this racket is magic if you are aggressive and tend to attack every chance ball you get.
ofcourse, i think you dont need to be too strong, but i wouldn't recommend it as a first stick to use for tennis. I do agree with people on spin + using your body to tame it, because that's how i hit my forehand and serves.
SPPP is the best poly i've tried on it, it lowers power a bit and softens the feel by a lot, and does NOT lose tension that much.
on hybrid.. i must say i would go with pro supex matrix.
I heard people stringing this stick with hybrid. What if I just string it with 1 type ? what does it affect ?
nothing really you can string what you want on it.....so iphoneman got so famous just from that thats stupid
HE GOT BANNED.
also his useless 15 posts per day
I weigh only 115 more or less and I swing it just fine =\
I'm one of those ppl who think it has too much power.
Think of it like this, you're in a major battle and at 5 all in the 3rd you pop a string. Do you really think it's wise to start using a different racket at this point in the match? For me, tennis is already tough enough as it is what with nerves and all.
Actually, this situation really happened to me but it was my opponent who needed to borrow a stick(I have 3). Needless to say, I won 7-5.
PS For those who don't think they're strong enough - start resistence training now. Only good things can come of it.
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