PV Audio's Playtest Thread

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  1. fgs

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    and what if the majority of your readers objects and you have already strung up your three frames?:)
    have fun!
     
  2. JackB1

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    PV, is your fav setup still Nat gut/B5E?
     
  3. pvaudio

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    One down! You've still got time!!! :D
     
  4. pvaudio

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    B5E/gut, but yep! I like natty crosses because they let you play the poly longer, and they give far more feel than any multi. Syn guts seem to just soften the bed; natural gut gives poly extra feel, thus making it feel like you're playing with the perfect poly stringbed. :)
     
  5. pvaudio

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    And I am impressed with myself, under 20 minutes for gut crosses (19:xx, but it's <20 :D ) I think is a great sign of improvement having taken two and a half hours during my first frame :)

    I'm even faster on my GF's racquet, partly because it's 100sq in, partly because she uses full Maxim Touch and partly because the string pattern is just eaiser to deal with. However: to the beginning stringers out there, speed is NOT the goal. I'm stringing my own frames in this thread, taking no short cuts, and have spent now years learning the craft. I still eventually want to push or pull weave, but my hands are simply too sweaty :(
     
  6. nadalex

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    when are you reviewing the mamba strings?
     
  7. pvaudio

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    They arrived just today. :)
     
  8. mikeler

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    Got 2 more PK 7G rackets today. Going to try a Mamba hybrid in one of them.
     
  9. pvaudio

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    I will say this, as a starter: thank you Ray for the strings. Very cordial man to speak with, and very generous. Sent 8 sets of string:

    2x Black Mamba
    2x Black Spin
    2x Black ION Rough
    2x Iontec

    Also sent some stickers, a couple dampeners and a hand written note. Very professional indeed. I will be testing all four strings in full bed and hybrids, hence my request for two sets each. All will be strung identically by me, and will be reviewed not against other strings, but as absolutes. I will ignore the claims that the strings are rebranded and just test objectively. If they feel similar, then so be it. If they don't feel similar, then they're obviously not rebranded. However, just because a string is black and polyester does not mean it is the same black polyester as offered by someone else.

    Having said that, even if it's not, Iontec looks to be bespoke. It doesn't look like any other string I've ever seen. It's sort of a clay/muddy brown color that I've never seen from anyone else.
     
  10. mctennis

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    So what string company is this? Iontec?
     
  11. pvaudio

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    Discho is the string company. The relationship, I'm not sure.

    http://www.mambatennis.com/brands/Black-Mamba.html

    You'll note that Black Mamba is a string name, and one of the brands listed. Iontec is also listed as a brand, but Discho is the brand for Black Spin. To add confusion, all of the string "brands" aside from Thunderstrings has the Discho name on it. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what's going on.
     
  12. MambaT

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    I generally try to stay out of threads about us, but just to clear up any confusion...

    All of the strings sent to PV are Discho brand. Discho does tend to arrange their branding in 'families', though. So there are several Black Mamba variants and additional strings are being added to the Ion line (Iontec, Hexa, Rough, etc) It was convenient in our ecommerce system to group those as brands, given that they are some of the more known strings among those who have heard of Discho. If it is really confusing, we will certainly try to find a better way.

    Thunderstrings is a separate brand that we just started representing.

    And just to be clear... I am not sure I have said anything on these boards about our strings, much less that they are the same as other strings. I know others have said that. I also have inside information that I have passed on to others when they have specifically asked. But we sell our strings on their quality and on our service... not because they are the same as something else. We stand behind everything we sell and I think those who have dealt with us will vouch for that.

    Oh... and that clay/muddy color is called Salmon :)
     
  13. mikeler

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    The multifilament Cellular looks completely different from any string I've ever seen. I've got a few other stringers that I play with who I'll probably give some Mamba string to so we can get more opinions than just PV and I.
     
  14. pvaudio

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    Nope, you didn't say anything about them and definitely not that they are rebranded. Many, many people have said this though, but having tried several "rebrandings" and having none of them be the same, I'm ignoring all of those statements.

    I think I will create a separate thread for the Mamba reviews so that mikeler and others can post their thoughts in it (assuming they don't make a thread first :) ), and I'll just post mine in here to add to my own thread.
     
  15. Torres

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    My comments on B5E 17 below, originally posted in another thread.

    1st Racquet used: BLX 6.1 95 (18x20) - 55lbs CP
    2nd Racquet used: BLX 6.1 95 Team (18x20) 320g - 52lbs CP
    Usual string: BHBR 17 @ 53-54lbs CP, BHBR 17 (54) / BHSR 17 (52)

    At 55lbs CP in a 95/18x20 it's very boardy and dead feeling, 52lbs CP less so, but still noticeable. Hard on the arm in both instances with that stringing pattern / racquet setup (even though its not necessarily obvious when you're playing - I noticed some minor forearm tightness and tenderness after a couple of weeks of play). I played about 16 hours with 2 sets of this over 2-3 weeks and my forearm does not feel quite right. It might be a case of having to adjust to it, because BHBR is definitely springier at the same tension. It works better in a more powerful 6.1 95 than in a weighted 320g 6.1 95 Team - with the latter I find that I have to crank the ball much more. In both cases, its still a low powered string. It would probably be better suited to a heavier, open patterned, or more powerful racquet at that tension. Very good control though, very good spin (though a different type of 'action' on the ball than something like BHBR) and it allows for alot of adjustability in ball trajectory which is impressive. Disappointingly non-linear power characteristics. It doesn't seemt to last very long, and stiffens even more on its way to going dead.

    It's just such an unusual string with characteristics (at that tension in that racquet setup) that are positive (very good control, very good spin, low powered - though perhaps too low powered) and negative characteristics (dead feeling, lack of feel, boardy, bit hard on the arm, perhaps too low powered, non-linear power delivery, tension sensitive, goes dead fairly quickly). I can't believe that some people have described this string as 'plush' - they must be stringing at 50lbs LO or below in a larger opened patterned racquet or similar, or hybriding it with some other string, because as a full bed, it feels a bit like a generic non-branded poly that doesn't seem to last very long.

    If I had to try this again, I would string around 48lbs CP, or mix it with another string to try and even out some of its negative characteristics. Unfortunately, I don't have any more sets of this left.
     
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  16. mikeler

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    So were you breaking it in about 8 hours or cutting it out? I'm trying it out now at 52 pounds in the mains with Xcel crosses at 56. Of course, I'm using the PK 7G (16 x 20, around 12 oz) now which is like a pillow but it does not feel stiff at all in that hybrid. That is 4 pounds higher than I was stringing my PSTs. I tried some Mamba Spin Poly Mains with Techno Ace Multi crosses in the 7G and after 5 hits my elbow said NO, so I can't just hit with anything even in a racket that soft.
     
  17. Torres

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    ^ I chopped it at 8 hours. It had already gone well dead (not that I thought it had much feel in the first place) but it felt like it had stiffened up and lost its elasticity. In hindsight, I strung it too high for my racquet, but everyone on these boards was saying it was some sort of ultra soft, plush feeling string....not at these tensions in a 95/18x20, its not!

    Not that I've tried it, but I think it would probably work as well as a hybrid - you and PV certainly think so - or at least a much lower tension (with my racquet anyway). Spin and control was very impressive, though I'm not sure how much of that you would lose as a hybrid.

    Even though there's not much feel at the tension which I used, you can sort of trust the ball to stay in, provided you're hitting at 60-80% rather than at 100% (power is non-linear). I have to say that I was getting better match outcomes with this string compared to BHBR, so I can't argue with the results; 6-3s were turning into 6-1s, what would have been tie breaks turned into 6-4s and so on. I beat a 4.0 to love, and all he could do was apologise but I suspect it was the spin on the ball than was causing errors to drip from his racquet. He seemed to have alot of trouble tracking the trajectory of the ball. I could also count the number of my own unforced errors per set on one hand with this string (well, maybe two hands!) but I never felt I was hitting through the court enough. Still, results are results, I suppose.

    I don't know, but I'm just not quite feeling it with this string at the moment, certainly not at the tensions I used. I'm not denying that it could be a potentially good or very good string, but I really need to try it out more and certainly at lower tensions to see if that boardiness and lack of feel still exists.
     
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  18. mikeler

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    The fact that your results are improving even though you are not 100% happy with the setup sounds like you may just need to find that ideal tension. Do you ever play hybrids or always full poly?

    I'm guessing the multi crosses are what is allowing me to still retain a lot of touch and softness with the setup. It does not seem like I suffer from lack of spin or control either.
     
  19. finalfantasy7

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    so what tension would you recommend to use tour bite and what other cross string to partner it
     
  20. Torres

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    I've always played full poly, apart from when I was a kid. I know from experience, that I produce a more difficult ball with a full bed poly. I go hitting with the former women's club champ from my club every few weeks, and even though we play more on a 'friends' basis - the sheer quality of her technique and level of play (apart from her serve, haha) is infinitely higher than mine - a full bed poly is the only way I can hang with her and stop her from putting me under pressure with every ball she hits.

    I do occasionally use hybrids but it tends to be when I'm experimenting, transitioning, or if the poly's too stiff, but if that's the case, I'd rather find a softer co-poly. I do find trying different stings exhausting - all this chopping and changing, and tension adjustments....so credit to you and PV for all your posts.

    The only thing in the back of my mind with tryuing B5E at lower tensions, is that power of the string isn't linear, and that isn't likely to change at lower tensions. This B5E experiment has got me thinking about whether I should try BHBR at 2lbs higher...
     
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  21. bad_call

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    wow...the control aspect is what ultimately sold me on this string. the comfort was great too at 47/50 tension.
     
  22. mikeler

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    It's still good at 52 in my hybrid but of course that is in a very soft open powered racket now (PK 7G).
     
  23. JT_2eighty

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    Hey PV, have you tried Polystar Turbo or Strike with gut crosses?

    Also, in a word, what is your #1 serve setup, without considering other factors.
     
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  24. pvaudio

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    Best serve setup would be the Silverstring hybrid, easily. So crisp off the stringbed, and if you follow it in to the net, it volleys like butter. All of the other good serving or volley setups couldn't do both. The SS/WT hybrid could. :)
     
  25. smirker

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    PV, I have been looking on the auction site at the Performaxx guts. I know from our posts they play differently. Which version of the 1.20 WT do you use?

    Some of the descriptions/pictures don't match ie two versions (the HT and non HT presumably) have the same picture but different descriptions.

    Sorry to be a pain but I want to ensure I am buying the right one.

    Also what kind of longevity do you get from a 1.20mm gut, given that you use it mainly in the crosses?

    thanks and sorry for all the questions!
     
  26. Torres

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    I've stepped back into my mixed BHBR/BHSR hybrid over the last few days, after my experiment with B5E, and man oh man, it's just sooooooooo much more comfortable than a full bed of B5E. It's like stepping back into your favorite, most comfortable, nicely broken in, pair of tennis shoes.

    In comparison to a mixed stringbed of BHBR/BHSR, B5E is just harsh, with much less 'give' and 'spring'. I'd fear for my arm health if I continued with a full bed of that in my 95/18x20 setup. It doesn't feel very nice either...more akin to a reel of generic poly. I just can't see myself playing with a full bed of it again. Bit of a shame really because control and spin is good but the string just doesn't last and stiffens pretty quickly on its way to going dead.

    As for BHBR/BHBR....spin, power, comfort, feel, longevity...its just all there, and control is improved by adding some BHSR into the stringbed to stiffen it. As long as you've got the racquet head speed and technique, the action you can generate on the ball is devastating.
     
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  27. pvaudio

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    Indeed, he has since changed the product line. The "regular" WhisperTouch is now called WhisperTouch HT. This used to be reserved only for the high tension variant of WhisperT, but that's not the case anymore. The difference is that now, the string can hold far greater tension than it previously could. The XHT variant of WhisperT is the "new" high tension variant. After that, you've got Light Touch which works in a completely different tension range than WT ever did. Note that the original tension range of WT still exists; its upper limit has only been increased. The nominal lower limit of WhisperTouch XHT, however, is higher than what the original high tension WhisperTouch was. I hope that makes sense, I bolded the important part. :)
     
  28. pvaudio

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    I do find it pathetic that his perfect seller rating has gone out the door thanks to some moron who clearly doesn't understand how e Bay works.
     
  29. smirker

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    Yes,

    Thanks a lot.:)
     
  30. bad_call

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    2 players in the BO gang bought BH reels and have either traded or looking to trade for WC strings. can't take credit for introducing either of those players to WC...tho i tried. think they had to find out the hard way. ;)
     
  31. mikeler

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    At the rate you are going, I hope WC starts offering you a finder's fee!
     
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    Has anyone commented on Tecnifibre's TGV?

    I have it in both my mids right now and I'm diggin' it.... full jobs.

    The tight pattern coupled with a small frame really gives life to full-bed multis... and TGV is becoming one of my favorites.

    It frays really nice... unlike my experiences with x-1.. which tends to snap all of a sudden on me.

    TGV is also pre-stretched... so it holds tension fairly well.... definitely not as soft or powerful as nrg2 or x-1.... but that's a good thing... has plenty of pop... with a firmer feel.

    Just trying to contribute. Thanks for the great thread PV!
     
  33. pvaudio

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    Contribute as much as you like! :)

    Thread has not died, never fear! Deep down...on the surface, I know that none of you have :D

    Anyway, no, the thread is still going. I just haven't strung up anything new recently. Still using 2 sticks of B5E/WT and the third with BHBR/WT. Not too sure why I'm so stubborn/lazy since the polys have all gone dead, but I'll get around to putting in the Mamba strings either some time this week or the next (I'm moving this weekend, so the Aria will be dismantled shortly). Anyone have a preference as to which one they would like to see strung and in what configuration?
     
  34. pvaudio

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    Hmm, what do you think? String up a full bed of some Mamba for tonight?
     
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    Oh and stay tuned: after I test these Mamba strings, I will be doing a budget string test. No string type aside from Kevlar is off limits. Only criteria: less than $7 a set/stringbed.
     
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  36. UWBTennis

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    So you'll be mainly testing synthetic gut?
     
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    I hit my fastest, most kicking serves with Silverstring crosses; very impressive serving string with just the right amount of power.
     
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    Oops, that was supposed to be 7, not 5. And nope, anything suggested goes. Eliminates all high end multis and mid-premium poly strings. There are still numerous choices left, however.
     
  39. finalfantasy7

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    try mantis is control poly as cross, gosen sheep micro mains. if not this setup could you try either one. would be interesting
     
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    Discho Black Mamba 1.23

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    Stringing: Without question this is one of the most stubborn, stiff and recalcitrant strings that I've ever dealt with. Honestly, it's second only to Alien Black Diamond in terms of diabolical stringability. Nonetheless, the Alien stuff is truly a great poly even though it's deadly to string up, so I'm not basing anything off of this. Anyone thinking that this stuff is the same as SP Hyperion or Genesis Black Magic......you've got to be kidding me. Strung at 47/47.

    Groundstrokes: This string plays how it feels and strings, but only from a power and feel standpoint. It is not a harsh string at all, but it's not soft. I would say that Hyperion is slightly softer, but not by much. It's about as soft as maybe Cyberflash, but without the other qualities. It has very little power anywhere in the court. You really need to work the racquet to get your shots to work how you want them to. There is a very strange feeling to it, something that I have only experienced with X-1. It honestly feels as though the racquet is strung at different tensions all across the string bed. if you hit the ball a bit lower in the stringbed to get a sharper angle, there is no power. If you hit it a bit above the sweet spot, there is a bit more power, but not by much. The string really takes the sweetspot of even the deadest polys and shrinks it. To put it another way, the strings just feel dead right from the get go. Normally, I would say that there is a type of player that would like this, but no play style would benefit from the way it played for me.
    Overall: 7/10

    Serves: Same as the groundstrokes. This is not a server's string as there is no help whatsoever on a power or spin standpoint. It's simply just a dead feeling string and seems to take away pace that you already would have had even with a syn gut. Since I rely heavily on my serve, this is a definite no.
    Overall: 6/10

    Volleys: Too stiff. There is no feel from the stringbed. The same applies here about the "uneven" stringbed. You have absolutely no way of knowing whether or not your volley is going to go where you want it. Now, I know I play with gut crosses in my go-to setup, but even then, mushy Black Magic is more reliable.
    Overall: 6/10

    Durability: It may be too early to tell since not enough time has passed, but this seems to be a rather durable poly. There is no notching whatsoever, but honestly, after feeling it, that's not surprising. The crosses were sliding all over the place though. Either way, the strings felt dead even after they broke in, so I really can't imagine what it will be like once they die.
    Overall: Too early.

    I don't believe in reviewing something and not being honest, so I won't be doing that. This is not a string for me. I'm not going to use any hyperbole here, so I'm just relaying exactly what I think. I know that some people like it, but for groundstrokes this reminds me from a feel standpoint of Signum Pro Hyperion. Similar spin off of both wings as well. The difference is, Hyperion is easy to string, doesn't move about and is very playable at the net and on serves. For groundstrokes though, it's very similar. Not that soft, stiff feeling and very low powered. In all other aspects, it isn't even close. It doesn't feel plasticky like Black Code, but it plays just as poorly.

    Overall: 6.5/10
     
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  41. Up&comer

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    I'll throw out a cheap hybrid of sppp mains and a cheap synthetic in the crosses.
     
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    It is nothing like BM, Hyperion, B5E, etc. It plays like it strings, VERY stiff. I strung it at 45lbs full bed. Perhaps someone who absolutely POUNDS the ball and like ALU Power may like it but too stiff for me and not enough pop.

    Oh wait. I played with Discho Black Spin 1.23 but it sounds like they are pretty similar or the same.
     
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    Discho Black Mamba 1.23

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    Stringing: Without question this is one of the most stubborn, stiff and recalcitrant strings that I've ever dealt with. Honestly, it's second only to Alien Black Diamond in terms of diabolical stringability. Nonetheless, the Alien stuff is truly a great poly even though it's deadly to string up, so I'm not basing anything off of this. Anyone thinking that this stuff is the same as SP Hyperion or Genesis Black Magic......you've got to be kidding me. Strung at 47/47.

    Groundstrokes: This string plays how it feels and strings, but only from a power and feel standpoint. It is not a harsh string at all, but it's not soft. I would say that Hyperion is slightly softer, but not by much. It's about as soft as maybe Cyberflash, but without the other qualities. It has very little power anywhere in the court. You really need to work the racquet to get your shots to work how you want them to. There is a very strange feeling to it, something that I have only experienced with X-1. It honestly feels as though the racquet is strung at different tensions all across the string bed. if you hit the ball a bit lower in the stringbed to get a sharper angle, there is no power. If you hit it a bit above the sweet spot, there is a bit more power, but not by much. The string really takes the sweetspot of even the deadest polys and shrinks it. To put it another way, the strings just feel dead right from the get go. Normally, I would say that there is a type of player that would like this, but no play style would benefit from the way it played for me.
    Overall: 7/10

    Serves: Same as the groundstrokes. This is not a server's string as there is no help whatsoever on a power or spin standpoint. It's simply just a dead feeling string and seems to take away pace that you already would have had even with a syn gut. Since I rely heavily on my serve, this is a definite no.
    Overall: 6/10

    Volleys: Too stiff. There is no feel from the stringbed. The same applies here about the "uneven" stringbed. You have absolutely no way of knowing whether or not your volley is going to go where you want it. Now, I know I play with gut crosses in my go-to setup, but even then, mushy Black Magic is more reliable.
    Overall: 6/10

    Durability: It may be too early to tell since not enough time has passed, but this seems to be a rather durable poly. There is no notching whatsoever, but honestly, after feeling it, that's not surprising. The crosses were sliding all over the place though. Either way, the strings felt dead even after they broke in, so I really can't imagine what it will be like once they die.
    Overall: Too early.

    I don't believe in reviewing something and not being honest, so I won't be doing that. This is not a string for me. I'm not going to use any hyperbole here, so I'm just relaying exactly what I think. I know that some people like it, but for groundstrokes this reminds me from a feel standpoint of Signum Pro Hyperion. Similar spin off of both wings as well. The difference is, Hyperion is easy to string, doesn't move about and is very playable at the net and on serves. For groundstrokes though, it's very similar. Not that soft, stiff feeling and very low powered. In all other aspects, it isn't even close. It doesn't feel plasticky like Black Code, but it plays just as poorly.

    Overall: 6.5/10
    UPDATE: After ordering my Iontec, I forgot that I never updated this review with the lower tension/frame. Sorry Ray!!

    I tried this out a few weeks ago at 45/45, but didn't update it having used it in my new frame. I took Ray's original suggestions and applied them to the 4D200T. This string, while I must be honest, is not quite Iontec, is still tremendous. The higher tension in the lighter frame was just a combination made in hell. The lower tension in the heavier frame and the pocketing was simply diabolically good. Spin is about the same as Iontec, and it's still definitely stiffer. Feel at the net was average, but serving muahahahaha! That delicious explosion sound that Tour Bite makes? Yep, it's got it.

    I still didn't like stringing it up either, have to be honest about that too. Not sure why it was so finicky for me, but who knows. Regardless, BM shows two key things to consider in strings:

    1. Frame

    2. Tension

    I remember when I did B5E/gut in my 4D200T for the first time and it was eye opening as to what that combination could do. Same thing here. The AG100 is just too tinny/light to get the most out of this string. That, plus having changed my forehand since I last reviewed it...and switching to a 2HBH led to some much different results. The sweetspot is actually enormous compared to what I felt before. I knew that something was likely up since Iontec is one of my all time faves and this is the lowest rated string in here. Didn't make sense. Now though, it gets its proper due.


    Overall: 9.25/10
     
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  44. smirker

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    Cue the Pro's Pro playtest thread. Best get in an order with BigT!
     
  45. MambaT

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    Thanks a lot for the review, PV. That is very interesting, and not at all my experience with this string. So, I would like to get some additional feedback.

    Anyone who would like a sample set of these strings to try and is willing to share your feedback with me, please email me at ray at mambatennis dot com. US and Canada only please (sorry).
     
  46. pvaudio

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    No problem whatsoever! I'm feeling the Iontec right now, and it's not stiff in the hand. Will see either this weekend or early next week how it plays. :)
     
  47. pvaudio

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    I do think that I am going to switch racquets after all. I'm going to test out the Dunlop 4D 200 Tour. I've heard good things about it, and I've played with every 200 since the Muscle Weave until I switched to the AG100 from the AG200 when it came out. I think it's time to step up the weight :D
     
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    PV--Do you have any interest in trading one of your AG100s for a Youtek Mid 93 just for demo purposes. I have a bunch of them, and I'm sure many of the people that subscribe to your thread play Prestige Mids, or at least 18x20s. Moreover, I've been dieing to swing the AG100 but know I'll end up selling it after a month or 2 and haven't pulled the trigger. Just a thought, let me know. Cheers.

    james.donovan003@gmail.com
     
  49. pvaudio

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    What size grip? I only have 4 3/8 and 4 1/2, but I don't use the 3/8. If that's your grip size, then easy peasy. If a 4 1/2, just let me know and I'll find the newest one!
     
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    Good choice. I've picked it up a few times in my local racket store and it just has that feeling about it, like it's a really solid stick.
     

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