PV Audio's Playtest Thread

Discussion in 'Strings' started by pvaudio, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. MambaT

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    Clearly he is from Miami, and his name is Steven... or Mike.

    That should narrow it down. Got White Pages??
     
  2. fgs

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    pvaudio,
    well, i warned you about what was going to happen and also that after 3-4 hours you would experience a pretty steep performance drop - but it is really an option for people who can and want to restring after every second hitting session.

    there are a lot of better strings out there, the question is if it is worth to pay the higher price for it.

    i just had another rather similar experience with pro's pro strings, namely the blackout as mains and the 1.30 hi-tec multifibre as crosses. the hi-tec plays very very similar to my beloved mcs and the blackout is basically a black code clone. put them together and you really have an absolutely cheap combo (at last at european prices) that plays superbly for at least up to five hours (until the crosses break!). in europe this combo would be less than 2 euros per stringjob!

    again i do have to mention that there are quite a few better, even much better playing combos out there, but at three-four times the price, so, if someone is stringing for himself, it is a legitimate question you ask yourself - should i hit the "third session" with the "old" premium stringjob or should i just take every third time a freshly strung "cheapo" to the court.
     
  3. pvaudio

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    Indeed you did, and I acknowledged the fact that you warned me :)

    But yeah, given the number of sticks I have, rotating through them makes it pretty easy to always have new strings on hand. Plus, it costs nothing. Now, if the Baseline held tension better, then that'd be just outrageous. Unfortunately, the Signum Pro and WC offerings just aren't that cheap :)

    Most importantly, I just love the fact that it's bare-bones simple. No frills, isn't made to do anything particular. It's just crisp poly, and I like that :)

    Perhaps if it gets to be that it starts breaking, then I can reconsider. The problem is that I never only restring crosses, so if I used Silverstring/OGSM, I'd be cutting out a 12 dollar poly every few hours!
     
  4. mikeler

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    I'm just insulted PVAudio thought Miami and Orlando might be close. :)

    North, Central and South Florida are all quite different from each other.
     
  5. pvaudio

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    Going to serve this evening. Perhaps something will break :)
     
  6. mixedmedia

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    The sound barrier, right?

    What's next after these strings pop? I forgot the order...
     
  7. pvaudio

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    Hehe. No serving was done, today most likely though. And I believe Polylon is up next.
     
  8. Torres

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    @ pvaudio.

    When are we going down to Brooklyn Bridge to meet that guy and his homies? Bear in mind that I can't do this weekend as my baggy pants are in the wash, and my blackened windowed SUV is having some bullet holes in it repaired.
     
  9. mikeler

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    Quality Friday morning humor. :)
     
  10. Torres

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    Ah, you missed the 'quality' Biggie Smalls / Brooklyn crew smackdown posts from some dude in the other thread before they (and the whole thread) got deleted. You wouldn't have had enough popcorn icons to cope! :-D
     
  11. mikeler

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    Man, I always miss the good stuff. I was wondering why you posted that in this thread.
     
  12. arche3

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    And you actually wonder why people accuse you of trolling here?
     
  13. alidisperanza

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    I'll bring the "gats." BK is a stone's throw from me. *Puffs up gangsta style*
     
  14. pvaudio

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    :lol: There are seriously some....interesting people on this forum.
     
  15. pvaudio

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    Hey ali, are you in MA? I'll be in Boston this summer working; you near there?
     
  16. pvaudio

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    And yeah the Baseline is extra dead. I can report that Baseline is one of the polys that just loses the will to live when it dies. No panzerschreck stringbed here.
     
  17. pvaudio

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    To sum up, that's the worst poly longevity I've ever experienced. But at the same time, the poly mains only cost a buck. Hmmm, tradeoffs...
     
  18. arche3

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    so if its a great setup you can just restring a fresh couple sticks for every match. It could work out very good that way. other than the constant stringing.
     
  19. pvaudio

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    Bingo. That's the idea :)
     
  20. pvaudio

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    I think I am going to do Silverstring/PPA next to see if I can get a similar feel as the Baseline. I didn't realize how much I missed that neutrality, and SS is very tension sensitive. I haven't used it properly but once and that was with gut. Thinking even lower for this time around (48/53).

    As a slightly related anecdote, someone just dropped off their racquet and requested BHBR at 45lvs. He first came to me having played multis and wanted to get into poly (I think this was early 2010 when RPM came out and people were raving about it). We picked a good poly to start off with (Cyber Blue), but he was adamant that it be strung at 62 like his multis. He said that anything lower caused a loss of control. I tried to convince him that the guideline is 10% lower, but he wasn't having it. So, I strung his stick for him and a week or so of hitting later he was raving about how much spin he was getting, how he could hit out on the ball and it wouldn't go long, the increase in control, etc. He said to me 'I told you about the tension. I'd be spraying shots everywhere if I'd taken your advice.' That was when I told him and showed him even on the stringing sticker inside the throat that I'd strung at 54lbs. Customer does know best, unless it's going to destroy their arm! :)
     
  21. fgs

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    the 1.20 i played was close to sensational the first session (after having it settled for 24h) and playable the next session (count 2 hours each time). then it was uncontrollable and broke around 8 hours.

    the 1.25 was pretty nice for almost two sessions (less spin, slightly more control) and then also went off, even if i expected it, due to the thicker diameter, to keep it going a little bit longer. interestingly it also broke at the beginning of the fifth session, so maybe it lasted about half an hour more than the thinner diameter.

    as funny as it is, in spite of being an austrian brand and producing at a factory about 65km from vienna, the baseline range is at the cheapest arounf 50 euros per reel (some 65 usd + shipping) in germany, in austria it's even a little bit more expensive, while in the us you get it for 40 usd/reel, which is slightly less than 35 euro!!

    for 35 euro i would definitely play it myself and cut it out every second hitting session. for close to 60 euros per reel (incl. shipping) i have some longer lasting alternatives, which even after four hitting hours do not drop performancewise below fresh baseline.

    nevertheless, this is a really incredibly good string for the first two-three hours, a string that makes you ask yourself what some of the higher priced offerings are doing in the market.
     
  22. sansaephanh

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    lol nice 1
     
  23. tistrapukcipeht

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    Man, I need so feedback on this gut.

    I used VS touch X BB Original (Alu Power rough and Fluoro) for some good time.

    I wanted to know more about it and if it is possible to string it around 60 Lbs.
     
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    NY born and raised. Boston is about 3 hours away though, not a terrible drive for a hit :)
     
  25. rdis10093

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    I played for four more hours last night, strings are starting to go dead. on the fourth hour, I could net get any depth unless I really accelrated my arm,but man I love those strings. Anyway, do you string for a guy on the club team, that uses kfactors 90?
     
  26. pvaudio

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    Yessir, I know exactly who you're talking about. He actually lurks on here a lot haha
     
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    check email please
     
  28. mixedmedia

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    Did you ever get a chance to try this out, PV?
     
  29. pvaudio

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    Nope, I honestly never got around to trying it. I've still got it though :)
     
  30. mixedmedia

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    Could that maybe be an upcoming test? Or maybe not... I ordered some too, so if it's good, we should keep it on the DL. :-D
     
  31. tistrapukcipeht

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    Where??

    I never see these strings on ****, 5 sets for $18 bucks??

    Can't find it.:)
     
  32. pvaudio

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    My friend, they're everywhere http://www.e bay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=108184&_pgn=2&_skc=50&rt=nc

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  33. tistrapukcipeht

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    Thanks.

    Is it gut fibers with a layer of another material to seal it and guaranteeing a bit more durability?
     
  34. mixedmedia

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    We don't know what they are... Gut-ish probably.
     
  35. mikeler

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    I'm supposed to get a sample from Yonex that is 80% gut with 20% synthetic on the outside.
     
  36. mixedmedia

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    Wait, really?
     
  37. pvaudio

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    Changing my mind. BHB7/PPA. :D
     
  38. mixedmedia

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    Ooo, that sounds good.
     
  39. mixedmedia

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    And an all black string bed. :)
     
  40. mikeler

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    Not sure how he got these samples but he keeps telling me to drop by his shop for them. Every time I do, he did not bring them. No biggie, for months I've been telling him I have too many multis to test right now.
     
  41. mixedmedia

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    It sounds cool though, if you get the chance (as do your strings).
     
  42. pvaudio

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    Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 17 / Prince Premier Attack 17

    Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 17 / Prince Premier Attack 17

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    Stringing: Ahh, darkness is back! I love the all black string setups. You can never tell what it is unless you strung it yourself, and I like that stealthy element hehe. Anyway, the BHB7 isn't too bad to string. Since it was just the mains, no complaints. The PPA has the same white strandy makeup as Xcel and Thunderblast with a black outer coating. Difference is, this is easily the thinnest (the Xcel is supposed to be the same gauge, but this is definitely thinner) and this feels kinda lumpy. Still, easy to string. Went low on this one: 47/52lbs.
     
  43. pvaudio

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    Yeah I'll be testing his prototype probably next week I think. When engineers get into tennis strings, anything can happen see: Ray from Mamba :)
     
  44. kiteboard

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    Try hitting some bh slices with that set up, and feel the bite, but once the edges wear off the bhb7, it goes away.
     
  45. Up&comer

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    Haha. I can't wait till he releases them to the public. My parents gave me a thumbs down on giving out my name and address to a stranger, so sorry I can't even ask to buy a prototype. Anyways, I hope you'll give us a discount when they finally come out :).

    When I'm finally a doctor, I'm going to figure out a way to synthetically produce serosa and make premium gut at a super cheap price. Watch out, Mike :twisted:
     
  46. mixedmedia

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    Sweet. Are you allowed to post a playtest or is that not until betas or final product?
     
  47. pvaudio

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    Hit with the BHB7/PPA a bit. It's definitely a black baller as mikeler would appreciate :D

    Other thing it's good at is slices like kiteboard said. Unfortunately, the PPA causes a lot of friction and the mains after less than an hour weren't snapping back fully. That's pathetic.
     
  48. mikeler

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    That was my concern with PPA. That rough surface does not seem ideal for a cross. Now it ain't black, but Micronite is as smooth as Billy Dee Williams (He's that dude Lando in the original Star Wars movies for you young whippersnappers).
     
  49. rdis10093

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    when we played today, do you think it was my technique that allowed me to get that kick on my slices, or was it the strings. MY slices are not like normal peoples. They allways spin that way, but with these strings they feel like they kick out wide even more. The only pro, that I can think of that slice like I do is Verdasco. Nadal kind of does since he is also left handed but not really. I guess the main question I am asking is though, can strings allow you to make shoots that you do not possess?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuXsWt53cHs


    Also I got pro rated at a club a while ago, so I know what my NTRP is for real, but if you had to guess, what would you say the NTRP is of the man who said "I move like an old grandpa." I would go with 5.0 Not all of those guys are that good, but at club it just seems like he is at a whole different level.
     
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    Well, since I can't respond in the other thread, yes, the argument was true. Apparently telling them he is a GOAT poster means nothing :).

    On the plus side, I was serious about artificially producing serosa. I know what I plan to do, I just don't have the resources yet (no April fools)
     

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