PV Audio's Playtest Thread

Discussion in 'Strings' started by pvaudio, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. Up&comer

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    I think it's interesting how he talked about how, especially AP, was to show what he was feeling in his life at the time. He talked about how he felt like he was Bateman.
     
  2. pvaudio

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    Hit with the PPA for about 45mins today. I guess this setup has 3 playing hours on it by this point, and about the same for the silverstring. The difference is truly startling. I was working on my BH, and shots going into the net with the SS were landing seriously 1/3 past the service line aka perfect rally depth with the BHB7/PPA. To those who've used it, does PPA fray? It's looking nice and white like Thunderblast, but it doesn't seem to be fraying :(
     
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    PPA isn't immune from fraying, but it's definitely highly resistant to fraying for a multi. If you do see fraying it's micro-fraying like RIP Control. It eventually wears down till it''s paper thin and then it snaps. It doesn't move much and it notches, which seems to lock it in place. In terms of durability, it's up there next to RIP Control. I never tried Thunderblast, but I know that the black dye on black PPA seems to act similarly to what Mikeler described about Thunderblast. It comes off and you can see where you've been hitting the ball, and the string appears white underneath.
     
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  4. mikeler

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    This was my experience too. The strings stayed relatively locked into place with some micro fraying. They just kept getting thinner and held on way longer than I thought. If you want a mega fraying multi, go for Xcel or Micronite/Microfibre.
     
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    Kind of random I don't know how much you are involved with video games, but the actor that they hired to play the protagonist for the new prototype 2 trailers, looks crazy similar.
     
  6. PigPen

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    Wanted to try pmax string. I twice tried to email the company using the email address from the website and they have been totally unresponsive. Also, whisper touch and touch have been difficult to get on the auction site. I've only seen classic (must be an old model as it is not listed on the website), HighTension and LowTension.

    Does anyone know what the story is with this company? Are there any other places I can get this string?
     
  7. Hotrocks

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    I ordered from them a few weeks ago, ordered whispertouch. Got it a weeks time. Go to the big auction site & order there. Very happy with this string(Performaxx Gut), will not pay the price for VS from Babolat. I believe Babolat change the formula on there VS gut, not as buttery as before. Good luck!
     
  8. PigPen

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    Did it break quickly?
     
  9. Hotrocks

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    Not a string breaker. Have not had a problem with Performaxx gut breaking and I have tried the Classic and Whispertouch, both feel great. I use Tornado in the crosses and thought this would be a problem. Great feel and spin and plently of power.
     
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    What tension do you use for the gut and the tornado?
     
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    Bhb7 due to its sharp edges will cause fraying in multis very fast. I like vokl cyclone with nrg2, but it does not match up with bhbr/ltec 4s.
     
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    Here's the one: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=6359679&postcount=1932. And I believe there was some good discussion in the surrounding posts.
     
  13. mixedmedia

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    Classic is the newest--and IMO, the best--line of strings. The site is way outdated, as are most of the item descriptions on the Bay. Sometimes they are responsive if emailed through the Bay, but I haven't had much luck recently.
     
  14. pvaudio

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    Does classic come in 1.20mm? I haven't even bothered to check. How's it compare to the previous Touch line?
     
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    I didn't see an actual gauge but it is available in 16 or 15L. Supposed to softer than prior lines and have a more "classic" feel.
     
  16. mixedmedia

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    I never tried any that were just "Touch," only those with some descriptor in front. Classic is the least stiff of all, but it still has the usual generous coating (the Premier has less than Enduro). I have emailed asking if uncoated Classic Premier is available but have not heard back.

    No, it's not (yet) available in 1.20 mm. I was told a 17g would be available, but have not had any responses to my emails in a while. I'm having a racquet strung with VS/Premier, so I should be able to compare it to full Premier soon.
     
  17. pvaudio

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    Got my reel of Baseline Spin today, woo! :D
     
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    Hmm, don't know if I want to string the Baseline. Once I'm back home, I'll use it for sure. I'm thinking that while I've got access to my stringer, I should get used to what I'll take with me this summer. I think it's going to have to be Tornado/Xcel FO.
     
  19. pvaudio

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    Ooh, maybe BHBR. That would be lethal.
     
  20. pvaudio

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    NOPE! Not what you were expecting :D
     
  21. pvaudio

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    Let the controversy begin again.

    L-Tec 3S 17 / L-Tec Gut 17

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    Stringing: Alas, the final L-Tec test from PV Audio (whatever my opinion is worth!). Strung easily, the 3S is moderately stiff, but nothing outrageous. If I closed my eyes, I wouldn't be able to tell that the "Gut" is not Wilson NXT. It has that same lumpy kind of feel to it. Will see this afternoon if this hybrid is any good, but already, this is a no-lose game for the L-Tec diehards. If I like it, as in it's ungodly, then they win. If I don't like it, then it wasn't the right hybrid, right tension, wrong stringing method, wrong racquet, wrong playing style, etc. Whatever, I'm here to test strings and not Area 51 claims. Strung 48/52.5
     
  22. pvaudio

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    And yes, in case you're doubting, it is L-Tec 3S and not just silverstring:
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    Looking forward to hearing about this hybrid. Would have prefered the 5 sided string in the mains, but I'll settle for the 3. :)
     
  24. Boricua

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    Dont be so demanding or PV will change his mind and wont test it.:)
     
  25. pvaudio

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    Oh, another little game like with the massage roller: first person to identify my pencil chooses the cross string I use for the next 3 months. My mother bought it for me in high school, and I've used it every day since then :)
     
  26. mikeler

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    I've always wondered why the string companies have such bad lettering. Check the L-Tec Premium lettering in the pic.
     
  27. Boricua

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    Besides the initial feel of the string, it will be interesting to see when you see drastic changes in tension loss, control and playability. This I think is the most important thing, when does LTEC loose its magic- after 5 hours, 10 hours, 15 hours, 20 hours.... 40 hours...?
     
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    Don't worry Mikeler, i've got your back. I just had LTEC 5S Black / LTEC "Gut" done at 44/46. I was hoping to get a few more hits in with it before i report back. I can say that the LTEC 5S Black does have a B5E hit quality to it, but not as dead feeling.
     
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    In the near future I will try LTEC 5S black (mains) and LTEC Flex black (crosses), Right now Im using LTEC 5S sterling (44) and LTEC 3 S black crosses (46) and it feels soft and controlable in a stiff APD GT. IM just at the 4 hour mark.
     
  30. pvaudio

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    Pretty sure the PPA is breaking tonight. The black coating is gone in one spot, and it just looks like fishing line in that spot now. Once it does, I'll finish my BHB7/PPA review. Silverstring/OSGM already broke, not going to bother with a full update on that. It just wasn't the right cross string.
     
  31. pvaudio

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    PPA broke on the first hit of mini tennis. BLAH. BLAH! That left the L-Tec. I just want to cut it out and move on. It's like all of the other premium polys I've tested here, good, but not for me. It's just too soft, spin isn't exactly insane, and there isn't much responsiveness. It's like playing with the BHB7/PPA but with a dampener, and without the spin. Just feels muted.
     
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    told you mini tennis is crap
     
  33. pvaudio

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    LOL flawless.:lol:
     
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    All I've gotta say is

    Nice black pencil you got there.
     
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    Don't you have to string with the magic sauce?
    Otherwise the stringjob is worthless, n'est-ce pas ?
     
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    Normally I consider myself a mechanical pencil conoisseur but I'm stumped.

    Oh and the Ltec "gut" looks an awful lot like this gosen junk I have.
     
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    I wondered where that old dot-matrix printer I sold on the Bay had gone....
     
  38. mikeler

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    Wow, that is pretty accurate!
     
  39. pvaudio

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    I just feels like a multi. Absolutely nothing like natural gut. It's too muted.
     
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    was gonna say the same thing. looks like the printer from middle school in '83 when the apple IIe was all the rage.
     
  41. mikeler

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    PVAudio and U&C are scratching their heads as we talk about old war stories!
     
  42. pvaudio

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    Ahem, I am not! Used them when printing in first grade on that paper with the litttle perforated strips on the side :D

    Also when printing receipts as a teenager at my first job that's how we made our carbon copies. That lovely "det-dett dett de dett dettzzzzzzzzzzt" as it prints and then spits it out for you to tear off :)
     
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    pv what do you think of Prince Beast XP?

    Thanks
     
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    L-Tec 3S 17 / L-Tec Gut 17

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    i bring my aerogel to a stringer where i thought i could save some bucks. after they string it with itB string, i just notice that they cut the string on the tie off, just a little bit like 1/8". where it should be the same as PV pix here around 1/4". will i have a problem with this one or what?
     
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    If you want to try the right ltec, hybrid, it's os/4s, and bhbr/4s. Those will give the best results.
     
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    Thing is, I don't want the right L-Tec hybrid: I already know what I like most. So thank you for the suggestion, but I will not be using their strings ever again.
     
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    You should be fine with 1/8. Has it settled yet, as in, has it been about 12 hours since stringing? If you cut the tails too short, as the tension is equalizing throughout the frame and then onto the first hit, you can suck the tail into the knot if it's too short. If you make your knots tight and make the tails long enough but still stick inside the frame, then you're fine. One of the many reasons I use the Wilson knot exclusively. The tail runs directly along the frame like the Parnell, only the knot is more compact yet holds just as well.
     
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    thanks. have not play yet due to rain. but its been sitting for 24hours already. its just not as tight knot on the tie off. just worried it might loss some tension or fall off.
     
  49. pvaudio

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    SP Tornado 1.23mm / WC Explosiv! 1.30mm

    SP Tornado 1.23mm / WC Explosiv! 1.30mm

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    Stringing: Yes, the L-Tec was so "not me" that I didn't even want to practice with it. So instead, I shall be trying this as my summer setup (have nearly full reels of both strings vs. only a few sets of Xcel FO). Since I already liked Tornado for its responsiveness, all that was left was the cross. Heard that Explosiv! gives a good crisp feel as a cross, so here we are! Explosiv! is just ridiculously easy to string, but since it's thick, good luck getting it through double blocked grommets without trimming significantly. Thankfully, this racquet has none. Strung 52/56lbs.
     
  50. pvaudio

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    As I hinted at earlier, I'm not going to do a full review of the BHB7/PPA or the Silverstring/OGSM. Neither was that good. The PPA had terrible durability (3.5 hours maybe?) and just didn't feel right. Spin was damped as well since it's bumpy and BHB7 is super sharp. Silverstring/OGSM just had no spin to speak of. In a full bed, or crossed with natural gut, you can get away with that. With the Gosen, you lose that unique Silverstring feel. It's no longer a great setup all around the court since it's hampered at the baseline. To be fair, it was OGSM 18 and not 17. There is an enormous difference between them: the latter is one of my all time faves; the former feels tinny.
     

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