PV Audio's Playtest Thread

Discussion in 'Strings' started by pvaudio, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. mctennis

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  2. pvaudio

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    No no, 47/52 like usual :)
     
  3. smirker

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    According to the official site in the UK the S-Gut is a multi?

    Dunlop Biomimetic S-Gut String 16g 200m

    The Dunlop Synthetic SGut 16G Tennis String is designed to provide a blend of power and comfort, with a premium multi-filament construction and a compressed mono-filament central core.

    SPECIFICATION:
    • Construction: Multi-filament construction
    • Gauge: 16 / 1.32mm
    • Profile: Compressed mono-filament central core
    • Length: 200 m
     
  4. alidisperanza

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    I thought so-- it gets rather fuzzy similar to Hollowcore
     
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    Makes it good value at $4 a set. Perhaps the description is slightly misleading and it is in fact a syn gut with multifilament wraps?
     
  6. pvaudio

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    All I know is that the black is about to snap, and it's not fuzzy at all. Perhaps the coating caused that, but it definitely just plays like a softer syn gut. I think it's fantastic stuff, and I got a huge amount of it and BW fo' cheap from a pro shop that no longer carries Dunlop.
     
  7. mctennis

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    Thank you for clarifying this for me.
     
  8. pvaudio

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    Hoping to break it tomorrow, I'll take a pic of the stringbed tonight so you can see its last legs :D
     
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    Lucky man. i want to try BW but it is overpriced in the UK @ $14.50 a set!
     
  10. pvaudio

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    I need to up to either the white S-Gut or the 17G black S-Gut. My Scorpion is completely dead, but as you can see, the syn gut simply will not give in.

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    I think this is at 6 hours, maybe 7. Either way, about 2x longer than the Tornado/Xcel, but the poly has died. I need to find the combo where the gut snaps as the Scorpion (or perhaps a new poly since my reel is loooooow) dies.
     
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    As luck would have it, my pro shop friend sent me some more of her back stock from when they sold Dunlop. Got all of this:

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    4x BW 17g
    2x S-Gut 16g white
    2x S-Gut 17g white
    4x S-Gut 16g black
    4x S-Gut 17g black

    All for a fantastic price.
     
  12. schap02

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    Nice deal, I stocked up on dunlop last year when my local repo switched brand, he dumped it....

    today I struck gold with gamma.....
     
  13. pvaudio

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    Aaaaaaaaalways pays to ask :)
     
  14. alidisperanza

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    You don't get notching issues using Syngut crossed with poly?

    I used to always pop crosses, now almost anything I put saws through the mains.
     
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    Yea, picked up about 60 sets from Gamma yesterday, all demo stuff and a bunch of experimentals but well worth the discount
     
  16. pvaudio

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    Yep, since she doesn't do Dunlop anymore, I have the entire range of their strings in at least one gauge, usually two. Silk, however, is just trash.
     
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    Haha, could not agree with you more about Silk.
     
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    On an unrelated note, I am switching to an extreme eastern grip on the forehand. Having gotten tired of shanks due to my old swing path, I tried changing the swing path. It still didn't feel quite right, until I picked up the racquet one day and BAM it just felt natural. Turned out to be an EE grip that feels right haha.
     
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    FInally popped that mess. Whew, finally. Makes me sad that I'm running out of Scorpion :(
     
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    Interestingly, I've always used somewhere between an eastern or semi western (quarter western I guess?) and I have never really had problems with shanks.

    As for your forehand, it just looked like you had kept your racket in the "patting the dog" position for too long and flipped the racket to square with the ball right at the last second.
     
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    Indeed this is the problem. Because of that, I would take a very low-high swing path. Which is fine of course, except that it means you end up hitting the bottom of the frame a lot. So instead, I forced myself to take a more lateral swing path like the pros do. That didn't feel quite right (too much strain on the wrist), but with the extreme eastern, that felt just right. Just need to practice it. I am revamping my entire game to become streamlined and efficient. I want both wings to look as though they belong on one player instead of having two completely separate ideologies per side.
     
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    Haha, interesting, as my forehand is more of a wristy brush up and somewhat army swing while my backhand is about as efficient with my whole body as I can make it. I suppose I have split ideologies :).
     
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    I dunno, perhaps it's the engineer in me. Simple = efficient = effective to me :)
     
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    Agreed.
    Not worth the money
     
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    I've been trying to shorten my forehand to avoid shanks. One of the things poly strings made me do was try to use all that extra spin resulting in more shanks. Now that I'm using full multi jobs again, I get rewarded more for hitting through the ball. I still shank my forehand but not quite as bad as I used to.
     
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    Very nice FH swing there, I still think you can take that ball a tad earlier though, especially when approaching the net, lean forward more and move through as you hit the ball and they'll be instant winners!
     
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    It definitely looks a lot better. While it's tough to see the grip change, your overall swing looks a lot smoother.
     
  29. pvaudio

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    I didn't end up changing the grip at all, that was a fluke on my part. The problem was as you suggsted: stop patting the dog and get a cat already :D
     
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    Hells yeah. Go cats!


    Looks smoother though. Your "bad" footwork is still better than my "good" footwork. haha
     
  31. pvaudio

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    Yeah, I was disappointed with the footwork last night, but I was so hell bent on not patting the dog for an hour that I seriously stood in my bedroom and just swung my racquet back and forth. That's how focused I was on the motion with everything else coming a distant second haha
     
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    Thanks for sharing. I've only been filmed once during tennis class at the community college. I keep forgetting that smart phones are readily available to shoot video. I'm curious as to what my tennis form looks like.

    I appreciate you sharing the video. Same goes for posting pictures of the string jobs. You brought up a good point in one of the free string test threads where some users are just signing up for the product and then possibly turning it around for a sale.
     
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    I mean obviously I have no idea how many people out there are really that cheap, but I have seen it at least twice (with the Solinco multi and Prince Beast XP). While not a sale, there was a string trade for the prototype Wilson blue-core poly (thank God they didn't release that garbage), so it's out there. I just like taking pictures and in many cases lets people see how the string progresses (such as fresh Scorpion/S-gut) vs. fully dead scorpion as posted in the "You're ready for poly when..." thread. :)
     
  34. mikeler

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    Count me in as a big fan of the pictures Mr. PV.
     
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    Then the pictures shall continue!

    Do also want to say thank you to Teniludius who rarely posts on here, but is featured a lot in this thread as he's my hitting partner in all of my videos. I'm sure he appreciates having our pointless in-between rally discussions posted on the internet :D
     
  36. edwincen

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    WT/YPTP 57/55, Will trying this tomorrow.
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    pv, is the new 4g at tw the same one? or something different from what we played with. I think it is different, it got a nice review, but it still cost alot. want to make sure before I buy some.

    also I can get babolat syn gut very cheap. Is it a good string say compared to prince syngut?
     
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    there is alot of new threads about how good it is. I think lux changed it or something?????
     
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    I'd accredit it to the pumpers. People are willing to try anything new...
     
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    Same stuff, don't bother. And if it is different, it wasn't different enough for me to either notice or care.
     
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    From what I've been hearing, it's "meant" to be used as a cross in a natural gut hybrid (the pros using it are hybriding it). However, since Luxilon can't market one of its strings to be best used as the least important half of a string bed, then it's still a failure in my eyes. ALU is still far, FAR superior. And I don't even like ALU.
     
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    They should have done this new playtest completely single blind. People are more likely to be honest when they don't have an idea that the string is SUPPOSED to be excellent since it costs nearly $20.
     
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    Agreed. Anyone who's studied psychology will know that it introduces experimental bias.

    It's like doing a playtest and telling everyone beforehand that its a revolutionary new string produced by the world's leading string manufacturer, developed with extensive input from Federer, Sampras, Djokovic, Azarenka, and Nadal. Give 100 playtesters a good/bad feedback form, and I'm sure you'll have 90%+ postive responses.

    Give exactly the same string to another 100 playtesters, tell them it retails for $2 and is made from recycled ice cream cartons and I'm sure you'll have a very different feedback result.
     
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    Put just as I would have, nice post.
     
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    U&C, I found this pic in from tennisplayer.net in the Pro Player section. It reminded me of you because you commented on my photos of Taylor Dent which shows the same thing. Super cool to see what's happening!

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    I have new monofilament which people may want to try.

    Oh and by way, here's a picture:

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    What??? You don't want to try it anymore??

    Personally, I like their well meaning-ness, but there's no doubt that they've already pre-disposed the potential buyer's mindset.

    Alternatively, I have a new, absolutely phenomenal silver monofilament string for you try which has a unique nano-fullerence coating.....
     
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    That is actually quite a good example.
     
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    Sorry, which post are you referring to?
     
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  50. mykoh

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    edwin, would love to hear your review on this one. really curious about a gut/PTP setup in the 95d. i'd imagine the softness of the PTP would take away some of the crispness from the gut.
     

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