Discussion in 'Strings' started by pvaudio, Nov 22, 2010.
Why not a B5E / Co-Focus hybrid?
What were the drawbacks in using Co-Focus as a cross?
Once dead, it becomes very unpredictable. I also don't like poly/poly hybrids, so that's another reason for me personally.
Wow this thread is immense!!
pv - I believe you're in Indy, if you ever want to hit, let me know!
SWEET! I'm moving back having finished up grad school. Did/do you hit at a club?
do not hit at a specific club. I live on the southside and work on the northside. I do a clinic once a week with a local pro, USTA Flex league and hit with one or two others when I can.
May I ask why the dislike of poly / poly hybrids?
Oh cool, where about on the northside? Nothing specific, just the area is fine
Dislike it not the right word, rather it's closer to I don't bother. kiteboard got into this for like 5 pages once since he was all about poly/poly. I have tried a few, and have never found that a poly cross will ever come as close to matching what I want out of a frame as a synthetic or natty will. It's not a disdain so much as a preference.
96 and Meridian
What apartment number? When do you typically leave for the day? Do you have a dog or alarm to protect your valuables? What kind of valuables do you have? Thx
Ah, I learned to play piano at Meridian Music which used to be in that shopping center there. Played quite a few tourneys as a junior at 5 seasons as well. Ah, good memories.
:lol: You're too much.
Must be doing something right, popped the B5E before the Nvy for the first time ever. 2nd cross over from center too.
Still have not broken B5E. Just got my new reel of it from TW yesterday.
Where are you based? Where do you play?
To anyone new reading this, no, the table of contents is not up to date. That said, I have not exactly hit with any new setups.
I just finished getting my EE masters at the school further up in IN that rhymes with "your new", but I'll end up in Zionsville. My "home" club has been Healthplex since I was in 7th grade.
Out of interest, have you played at the Pike HS courts, are they good? I'm supposed to play a match there next week and I've never been there before.
Indeed, those are my go-to outdoor courts. They're quite good, although not quite as nice as North Central's. To be fair, however, NC's courts are kept up as though it's Indian Wells.
The battle of the crosses with B5E mains has begun and so far white Genesis Thunder Blast is besting NVY.
good to know! thanks
Wow, this thread hasn't been updated for awhile!
There comes a time where even the best of threads eventually fizzle out.
Never, this thread shall live in infamy.
i hope that the freshly married pvaudio will be allowed to come back to the board and "hang out with the boys" prior to ten years of marriage passing.
best wishes to you and your wife pv!
congrats and welcome top the club.
Haha. That is classic.
Haha many thanks to all, and so far so good!
Quick question to pvaudio, great post, I've been following this and reading through the crazy number of posts in this thread! Why do you think that Weiss Cannon Scorpion 1.22 is better than 1.28, and does it last long or does 1.22 snap pretty fast? That's a really thin gauge, and I normally use 16g, maybe 17g at the thinnest. Thanks!
Honestly, I've never tried the 1.28. I have always liked the livelier feel of thinner gauges, so if I'm going to try a string, I'll always go for the 17 or 16L first. If we're talking mm, then always the 1.20 to 1.25 before anything thinner or thicker. In my top favorite polys, scorpion is 1.22, b53 is 1.23, tornado is 1.23, iontec is 1.20 and pro hurricane is 1.20. I've tried most of these at other gauges, but these have hit me as the best. Opinion, obviously and of course
Cool, so I'm thinking of getting a reel of Scorpion but don't know if I should be trying a gauge so thin. I was going to try the 1.28 but if the 1.22 is that great and you don't break it like in 3 hits of a ball, then I may be inclined to try that. I'm using it in a Wilson Prostaff BLX 90 (Federer) frame.
While I didn't personally care all that much for Scorpion, I found the 1.22 mm version to be plenty durable.
Thanks Doubles, so why didn't you like Scorpion? What is your normal setup and racquet?
IG and YouTek Prestige Pro's. I use either a full bed of Pro Red Code, or a hybrid with OGSM.
As for Scorpion, it just seemed rather bland to me. However, what that really proves is how subjective strings can be. Look at PV, he loves it. Conversely, I don't.
I'm not sure whether or not you would consider not buying it because I happen to dislike the string, but I would still at least try it out, because you never know if you might like it.
Yes, that seems to be pretty true, what one person likes someone else may not. I guess there's only one way to find out! Thanks for the input, if anyone else has any input, I'd love to hear it. I use the Wilson Prostaff BLX 90 and string around 48 lbs with VS Touch mains/Luxilon ALU Power Fluoro cross, and I also string full bed Luxilon ALU Power Fluoro, both work for me, the gut one obviously is more cush, but I think I can play with both pretty well. I'm not as sensitive to string anymore now that there are co-polys. Before with just synthetic gut available, it was probably more noticeable.
Doubles, what color of OGSM do you use? I have the clear/white kind and the gold kind, and not sure how I feel about them in a hybrid but seems like it's a pretty popular hybrid, maybe because of the price?
I have a reel of the natural color now. I've tried it in both natural and white, and in a hybrid there isn't much of a difference to me.
I've used Scorpion 1.22 in a K90 strung around 51 (and strung by Mr. PV himself). After a short break-in period it feels plush and soft and you can just feel the ball sink into the bed. I let Mr. PV hit with it and he was amazed at how good it felt! Excellent control and good spin.
Teniludius, did you use a full bed of Scorpion 1.22, and how long did it last you before it broke?
Yes, I used Scorpion 1.22 in a full bed, and I've never broken it, and I hit pretty hard with spin. I kept it until it went totally dead, which was a long time. I was amazed at how well it played even after a long period of time.
Ahhhhhhhhh feels so nice to be hitting again. B5E/Nvy is keeping me afloat. Being married definitely means less playtesting, but being back at my home club means more customers
My experience as well.
and may the honeymoon continue.
My wife gifted me recently with a monster-combi. she noticed me sewing the handle on my wilson bag some time ago. i picked up a pro's-pro bag but just kept it in storage since the stitch job was holding up.
Pvaudio, have you ever tried using a multi as a cross instead of a syn gut cross with your poly mains. I'm just wondering what the differences are?
How dare you get his opinion on this after asking me.
He will give you a different perspective proving that string love is all subjective.
Hmm that's a beefy question. Yep, indeed I have. One of my favorite setups is Signum Pro Tornado / Babolat Xcel French Open. You can fine tune the overall feel you want when you choose a multi, whereas a syn gut is pretty straight forward. I chose Nvy because it doesn't really change the feel of the poly mains much, and allows them to do their work most efficiently. Multis and other syn guts start shredding which inhibits the poly's spin generation. That said, if I still could use natural gut with everything, I would.
hows it going man I assume you are no longer in heaven, but in the real world with a carer. hope everything is going well for you.
whats the word on poly, anything new or exciting?
lleyton has been taking name this year fyi. go team yonex
Indeed he has! And haha it's still heaven, just on a different street. Real world is definitely a lot different, but it's definitely better in many ways. Still playing tennis frequently, but for sure not stringing as much. With that in mind, I have no idea what new stuff has come out recently, so I can't help you there.
Hey PVaudio I saw you mentioned you buy signum pro strings that get like damaged and stuff. I wanted to know if you could give me the american contact info.
p.s. I just wanted to talk to them about a problem with a product and where I could send it not trying to get the damaged strings
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