Quality control in USTA Flex Leagues

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by Govnor, Apr 29, 2013.

  1. Govnor

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    Anyone else had issues with how they let anyone (basically) sign up for whichever league level they want?

    At least 3 of the 6 in my league should be a level below. One guy hasn't won a match at this level in 3 years and still keeps being allowed to sign up for it. Others have bumped themselves up after a decent (not great) season in a level below. That's a little frustrating to me. I'm not sure if I blame the guys doing it (most everyone wants to play up), or the organizer that surely must look at their results but then OK's them to play anyway.

    I know you get what you pay for and Flex Leagues are the poor mans version of organized USTA play, but some effort and quality control would be great.
     
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  2. J_R_B

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    The USTA really brings out strange behavior where people in adult leagues want to sandbag and play below their level and people in flex league want to play up and get killed. Sometimes the same people. LOL. Makes little sense.
     
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  3. Govnor

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    I know, it's strange how the two are opposites when it comes to sandbagging and overestimating ones play.
     
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  4. goober

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    Well I think flex leagues were meant to be more casual as they don't count toward ratings. Since they let nonUSTA members play, there will be a lot of out of level players (usually playing above their level). Since these nonmembers don't have ratings and you can't stop rated players from playing up, I don't see a whole lot changing, unless the Flex LC starts manually putting people into what they think is their proper category. That won't be a popular move so probably won't happen.
    Things you could do:

    1) Play up yourself. At least you will always have good competition even if you get stomped occasionally.
    2) I noticed that once our league introduced playoffs with prizes, all of the sudden people started playing a lot more at their proper levels. Maybe encourage the LC to go that route?
     
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  5. OrangePower

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    Flex Leagues - no post-season

    Leagues - has playoffs / Sectionals / Nationals where the winners can achieve rec tennis immortality
     
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  6. Govnor

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    Yeah, I hear you. Rec tennis Playoffs = Serious Bidness
     
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  7. Govnor

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    1 - can't, 4.0 is a high as it gets around here. 4.5 players don't really play in the flex leagues.
    2 - what kind of prizes?? I agree, though, offer some kind of playoff and that will change peoples perspectives.

    Flex is definitely more laid back. I wonder if a separate flex rating is even remotely possible? That could be good.
     
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  8. goober

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    Prizes have been gift certificates at local tennis stores usually. They sponsor and get some free advertising. I think the certificates were about $20, but hey that is more than we got for winning our league in team tennis ($0) !
     
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  9. Govnor

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    I'd take $20 at the local store for sure!! I'd feel like a pro!! haha
     
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  10. West Coast Ace

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    Been there, done that. Played once - my modest goals were a) get some matches in; b) maybe meet someone to play regularly. I got a mix of guys who 'used to' play at the level and were hoping to get back (good luck) and sandbaggers who magically could up their serve speed 20 mph late in sets.

    I'll stick to ladders. Yeah, you may have work through some easy matches (depending on where you start out) before you find your level. But it eventually happens.
     
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  11. g4driver

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    I play two levels down in flex and get the same GOAT feeling without having the expense of state, district and nationals. ;)

    Hotels, airplanes and traveling is so yesterday. Why bother when you can beat up on these flex league players and sleep in your own bed a night?

    The best part - all the money you save from avoiding state, districts and nationals can get you one big ***** trophy and a few really cool towels embroided with "USTA NATIONAL CHAMPION" that looks like an exact copy except for the tiny "not" just to the right ;)
     
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  12. tdhawks

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    I play Flex as a tune up for a better league in town and tournaments. We have a guy here who is at best, a 3.0 and always enters at 4.0 and 4.5 and enters tournaments at open. He gets double bageled in every match. I honestly do not know what his thought process is other than perhaps if he plays enough open tournaments he can claim he is an open level player? It's awful, I sometimes take the forfeit so I do not have to play him and ruin my game.
     
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  13. Govnor

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    There is a guy in my current league who has not won a match at this level in 3+ years (usually gets hammered too). Why on earth he keeps registering at this level is beyond me. But, more to my point in this thread, the Local League guy should be TELLING him he cannot enter this league and he should go at least one level down. Very frustrating.
     
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