Question about Old Radicals

Discussion in 'Classic Racquet Talk' started by Centryx, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. Centryx

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    Hey everyone hoping to acquire some knowledge form you guys

    is there any difference between these radicals (static weight, sw or stiffness)

    Trisys 260 (yellow bumblebee pj)
    Candycane Twin Tube Radical
    Zebra Twin Tube Radical

    thanks in advance
     
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  2. Dave M

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    the first one doesn't have the twin tube which gives a more flexible feel.
     
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  3. Centryx

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    so does anyone have the stats on the stiffness and static weights?
     
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  4. HRB

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    I just saw this thread and had to chime in. I was so excited to find a Trysis 260 MP "bumble bee" for cheap on the "bay", having read some great reviews of what a solid good feel it gave. I figured since my beloved Pro Staff 6.1 95's (from Classic to K Factor) were my faves, besides the 16x18 I'd feel right at home.

    Sadly I gotta say this thing feels like a board? It swings way heavier than the Wilson's and the sweetspot seems to be about dime size.

    Shame, it looks so cool..but sadly I think I gotta flip it...luckily it is a "cult classic" so getting back my money should be easy.

    Anyone else had a letdown with these?
     
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  5. HRB

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    Just for clarification I meant I figured the only main difference in feel would be 18X20 compared to the 16X18 I play with...and in retrospect maybe that is it in a nutshell?
     
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  6. dak95_00

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    I've played a few Radicals and felt the same as you. They just aren't as solid as the 6.1s or POGs. I think tinkerers like them because the can put lead and silicone all over them and get a more solid feel. I'd rather just grab a stock POG and swing away. I felt the Radicals had a hollow feeling compared to the others mentioned.

    For clarification, I gave them over a year of play. They were great from the baseline but I never felt comfortable with the serve.
     
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  7. Centryx

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    hrb send me an email we can discuss, i've swung the old 6.1's and yes they do feel great and powerful but I like the control I get with these much more compared to the 6.1 with an 18x20 pattern. I don't think its fair to compare a 18x20 racquet with an 16x18 just my 2 cents


    but yeah back to the original question anyone got the numbers or can point me in the direction of?
     
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  8. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Are you wondering about MP or OS?
     
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  9. HRB

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    You are correct...I am clearly an 16x18 man (except for an old Graphite Edge that strangely enough is the stick I'm hitting "lights out" with lately...but that's another story).

    I just like trying other sticks, but keep coming back to my Pro-Staffs....anyways that stick is back on the big auction site if you are interested...it has about 4 days left for bidding.
     
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  10. Centryx

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    mp 10chars
     
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  11. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Here's what I have in my records...

    Key: head size, length, mass, balance cm/pts, SW, flex, beam, pattern, source; all specs strung

    1993 Bumblebee MP (from TW Racquet Finder)
    Rad Tour 97 27 346 32.1 7 HL 339 58 20 18x20
    Rad Tour XL 97 28 349 32.7 9 HL 369 57 20 16x19

    1995 Zebra MP (from TT's Dino Lagaffe; probably not stock.)
    Rad Tour 630 97 27 362 ? ? 352 57 ? 18x20

    1998 Candycane MP (all from TT poster Dino Lagaffe)
    Rad Tour 630 97 27 343 32.1 7 HL 319 57 21 18x20
    Rad Tour 630 97 27 346 31.8 8 HL 316 58 21 18x20
    Rad Tour 630 97 27 335 32.4 6 HL 316 59 21 18x20
     
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  12. Centryx

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    thanks for the info! just from looking at this is it not possible to match a zebra to a bumblee?
     
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  13. vsbabolat

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    I suggest you get a scale and weigh the racquets you have. Or go down to the post office and use their scale and weigh your racquets. That is the only way you know what is really going on with what you have.
     
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  14. Centryx

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    yeah i will weigh them now btw i posted the pictures in the other radical thread VS if you wanna see the light Candy cane
     
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  15. Don't Let It Bounce

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    I'm sure they are close enough to match mass, balance, and swing weight, as long as you can handle the wt and SW. I'm pretty sure the heavy Zebra that Mr. Lagaffe posted specs on was not stock.

    Even then, though, they'll feel a little different. The Zebra is a carbon composite (i.e., 100% graphite) with Twin Tube construction, and the (original) Bee is a carbon/Twaron (basically Kevlar) composite. Both great rackets, though.
     
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