Question fo Bungalow Bill.

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Kobble, Jun 14, 2004.

  1. Kobble

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    How often do you see people transfer the technique grooved by the serve trainer to the actual serve?

    When I swing that thing my motion is flawless, and when I replace it with the racquet it is still flawless. However, when trying to hit a typical serve with that motion, it is very good, but not flawless. The more I continue to adjust my timing to allow that motion to flow perfectly as it does with the trainer, the bigger it gets. I may be wrong, but it seemed like that is what made Roscoe Tanner's serve so successful. It just flowed like one working unit. Thanks for posting about that device, it has really helped me bust out of my serving slump.
     
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  2. Bungalo Bill

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    I got a feeling a lot of us will be flawed in some way. The key to the serving trainer is it helps you get the feel of what your arm should be doing. Many people have such a huge flaw in their swing that the serve trainer helps bridge the gap towards perfection. Whether we will ever get a perfect motion is another story. I like many people simply do not have the needed to time to work on our games to get them to where we would like them to be.

    Roscoe Tanner had a very fluid continuous motion. I can't even imagine what his serve would be like with today's technology and him being in his prime. Serving so hard with a wood racquet is a feat in itself.

    Keeping working on it, a lot of the transfer is in the toss. Get the toss right where you need it and how high has a lot to do with that non-stop motion.
     
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  3. vin

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    What is the 'serve trainer'? Sounds interesting.

    Vin
     
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  4. Kobble

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    Thanks for reply Bill. Yeah, I think Tanner would hit the ball through the wind breakers with today's equipment.

    Vin- It is basically a ball on a string, and you use a serve motion with it. If the string stays tight all the way through, then you are conserving the energy built up in the throwing motion, if it goes limp, then you are lossing energy. Any pause like Roddick's motion will cause it to loose tension. When done right it promotes a very fast and effortless motion. I have used it in the past, but when I saw myself using it on tape it really changed my perspective. Every angle I was trying to achieve was right on, so now I am trying to translate it into a real serve. So far so good.
     
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  5. Duffclown65

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    ^^Where can you buy these things? It sounds very useful.
     
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  6. Kobble

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    You make them yourself. Get an old tennis ball and drill a hole through it. Then run a small rope through and tie it off with a big enough knot. I made mine 27 inches long to mimmick the length of my racquet. I tied it to a wooden hammer handle from a broken hammer, but you can get more creative if you want.
     
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  7. Bungalo Bill

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    As you work on a smooth motion using this tool, keep in mind you will not transfer everything as far as motion. As you said above, having a motion like Roddicks will cause it to stall yet Roddick has a very powerful serve.

    What the serve trainer is doing is training the mind and muscles to be loose and fluid. It is simulating the path of the racquet as it travels around and up to the ball. The main purpose of the serving trainer is to help reduce or eliminate "waiters" wrist. Or long pauses in the serve motion that shouldnt be there.

    You are working on having a loose arm with a continuous motion going around and around and around.

    When you transfer this to the actual serve, the most important thing you will learn is to develop a loose and continuous motion with your arm with the racquet traveling around, down the backside and up to the ball. It will not be perfect transfer but the idea and the feeling should transfer.

    If you use an abbreviated serve motion, the transfer is mostly in keeping a loose arm and not opening your wrist to much as in "waiters wrist" and leaving it open for a long pause. The rest is timing your body movements and having the right toss for you to hit the ball with an outstretched arm. at the peak of the toss.
     
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