Racket info wanted: Dunlop McEnroe Supreme Ceramic

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  1. VGP

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    Hey all,

    I'm just looking for some info on the Dunlop McEnroe Supreme Ceramic. I picked this one up used and I like it ok. All I know is that it's about an 85 sq in headsize with a 16x18 stringing pattern. It came in on the headlight side.

    If anyone's got some more information, I'd greatly appreciate learning more.

    I set this one up and it's about 13.9 ounces, around 10 points headlight, it's solid, but a bit on the deader side.....

    ....here are some pics.

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    Thanks....
     
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  2. Irvin

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    14 ounces sounds a bit heavy for that racket. There is a lot of lead tape on the head at 3 and 9 position. 6 inches of 1/2 inch lead tape weighs 0.2 ounces. That is 0.4 ounces if you include both sides and there is only one level of tape. I would not be surprised if there was not more under the grip.

    If you take that vibration dampener out the racket would not be anywhere near as dead.

    Irvin
     
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  3. VGP

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    Thanks, but I'm looking to see if anyone knows when these were made, what they were originally priced at, if anyone remembers playing the frame, etc.......

    There's also another Dunlop frame that looks very similar to this one, still white, but different striping and gray bumperguard and grommets....the Dunlop McEnroe Master II.
     
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  4. vsbabolat

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    It was made in Taiwan.
     
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  5. plasma

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    wow...those letters are really disco-tastic. Check out the crazy tribal pinstripes...awesome!!!
     
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  6. Irvin

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    I have a 1987 Stringer's digest and it is listed in there. I would guess it is from somewhere around the early to mid 80s or so. Ceramic rackets were a fad back then and all the manufacturers had a couple of models. They were high priced up to about $200 but they died out pretty quick.

    Irvin
     
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  7. VGP

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    Thanks Irvin.

    plasma, I like the cosmetics too....

    From what I can tell, Dunlop made more rackets from the same mold. There is the Dunlop McEnroe Master II that's ceramic and graphite, and I've seen a few pics of the Dunlop McEnroe Comp II. I don't know the specs on that one.

    The Supreme Ceramic came in a nice case. A white version like the full-length ones used for the Max 200g. The Master II only came with a head zipper cover. Perhaps Dunlop was cutting costs cover-wise by then.
     
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  8. retrowagen

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    Ceramics first were used in the tennis industry in the 1985 year, so I'd date it circa 1986-1987.

    This is one of many "discount store" racket variants made by Dunlop in Taiwan, leveraging their marquee player's name to North Americans in the lower price points of the composite market. Many of them are from the same mold, as was mentioned above; none of them are terribly satisfying to use IMO.
     
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    Rebake it by putting it in the OVEN for 2 hours then you will have better and stronger Ceremic.
     
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  10. zapvor

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    to the OP i have the same racket! i just picked it up for cheap only because it said Mcenroe on it haha. i dont know anything about it either until i read this thread. good stuff.
     
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  11. VGP

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    1986-1987......just like the Prince Spectrum Comps. Those definitely have a following.

    As for "discount store" I think the Supreme Ceramic was made a little nicer than that, judging by the case.

    It's the ones after that I mentioned that look like they started to cut corners to increase their profit margin.

    I'll try and post pics of what I've collected since picking this one up......
     
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  12. plasma

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    what a great thread, one side saying it's a cheapo, the other arguing for top of the line $$$ players frame. i know nothing about the specific history but agree with the poster who cited ceramic as being uber expensive in its time. I beleive it was Yamaha that was amongst the first to charge 150-200 for a stick ( besides the 500$ boron by prince), and it was for their ceramic gold 100 series. Ceramic was a fad that died out but shouldn't have. A material that plays beautiful, crisp and precise and is easy on the arm, truly unique. To my knowledge inexpensive white ceramic sticks were never sold at big 5 type stores except for perhaps the Pro Kennex Silver Ace 90.
    The feel of old ceramic 80's racquets is golden, I would start a club but prefer to keep this one under the radar!
     
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  13. zapvor

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    i need to go out and hit with it and see how it feels
     
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    I know it's been a while,here's some pics of my frames....plus a recent acquisition of a Dunlop Club 3-pack:

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    One thing I noticed with these frames (both the Supreme Ceramic and the Master II) is that as far as I can tell, there's only one convenient way to string them.

    Seems that it can only be strung one-piece with the crosses going from throat to head. The grommet holes are too small at the throat to easily tie off another cross knot tie-off. The bumperguard has specific grooves in them so that the crosses only go one way. Given the grooves, I couldn't even map out an ATW pattern.....
     
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  16. 10skiwi

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    Dunlop McEnroe

    Dunlop also made a graphite and fiberglass w/ similar graphics. Racquet was a metallic champagne with red/black graphics. I have one in excellent condition if anyone is interested.
     
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    VGP stringing comment

    the graphite/fiberglass can be strung two piece w/ two shared grommetts at the head and bottom.
     
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    Not too sure the mods will appreciate a first or second-post sales pitch in a category other than 'For Sale'...not to mention that the thread is over a year dead. Just sayin'.
     
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