Racquet for Heavy Hitters *help*

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  1. RoddickSafin

    RoddickSafin Rookie

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    Do you guys have any suggestions for racquets for EXTREMLY heavy hitters? I often hit extremly hard and the ball goes flying. I serve around 115 normally.. Despite using much spin sometimes the ball goes. I have good technique, shift weight, shoulder rotation, so i know its not a flaw of my technique. I live in CA and play 18's and im ranked very high. Im currently playing wiht the Yonex RD ti-80 strung at 60 and somtimes 65. Has anyone played with the RDX 500 mid yet? Does anyone have any suggestions on a raquet with no power? I can generate all the pace i want. How about leadtape. I tried puttiing some on the 3 and 9 positions but it only added power to my raquet after my friend told me. How come the pros put lead tape on their raquets if it increases power?
    Anywas please give me suggestions on a raquet that has almost no power and is pure control.
    Anyone try out the RDX mid or midplus? tell me what you think becuase i can get those for cheap and it is my first choice
    PLEASE HELP
    Thank You
     
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  2. Yondan

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    If the ball goes "flying" as you say then the problem is most likely technique. Equipment changes may account for fractions of an inch but several feet would have to be technique problems such as the racket face being opened. Pro's put lead tape on their rackets to improve stability, gain power, and i suppose many other things. Pros also use powerful rackets such as Andy Roddick's Babolat Pure Drive +, and he manages to keep the ball in play (most of the time). Even though Roger Federer uses a low powered racket, he strings with a quite powerful natural gut hybrid IIRC with tensions ranging from low to mid tension which boosts power.
     
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  3. Fantoro

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    Try the (now) discontinued Iprestige mid (not mid plus) with Tecnifibre TR3 strings@60pds and tell me what you think.
     
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  4. nimxnooj

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    i'm with Yondan on this one. Equipment can change quite a bit, but if you hit the same way, the balls gonna go flying whether you use a Head is12 or a prostaff 85. Try a more spin-friendly grip, even an eastern grip. Brush up more to topspin the ball in. And wen the pros put massive amounts of lead on their rackets, they balance it out by putting it in the handle as well. juss my .02
     
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  5. Go Tennis

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    Anyway, you don't need to be a extremily heavy hitter in tennis. The 95% of the ATP pros hit a extremily heavy ball with consistence. Gonzalez, Calleri and few others lost a lot of of machs. Leave the heavy shots to the winners.
     
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  6. RoddickSafin

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    Oh sorry guys i dont mean flying (sorry frustration). Often my shots are inches long not feet. I know i have good technique (coach played pro) and i understand roation, shoulder turn, weight shift so i know its all that. Any more advice would be greatly appreciated:)
     
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  7. gregraven

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    If you are convinced that it is really the equipment, try the Head Prestige Classic and/or Dunlop M-Fil 200, strung at the top of the tension range. Each of these is a small-head, flexible racquet with a dense string bed. If neither of these racquets is "dead" enough for you, then you need to look at your technique or game plan -- no matter what your coach says.
     
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  8. TommyGun

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    I'm going to suggest the X-45 series, probably the 2213 in the classic 27 inch. The reason being is that it is more stable and you can get more spin with the 95 square head because of its 14X18 string pattern. Should have a positive effect once you get past the 45 degree head shape. I have noticed some local players having similar issues use the X-45 with similar effect, although only one went on to buy one.
     
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  9. loubapache

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    Even just for the fun of it, you need to try the Pro Staff 6.0 85. A dream for heavy hitters.
     
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  10. ferrari_827

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    RoddickSafin, I also play with the Ti80 and RDXmid, and hit hard. The Ti80 is already a low powered racket. However, the RDXmid has a slightly lower power level, and more control, so my recommendation is to try the RDXmid. And the RDX will have almost no power at 60lbs, so try 55lbs.

    Enjoy.
     
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  11. ferrari_827

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    RoddickSafin, even though you are a hard hitter, you still want comfort and a decent size head. So I would stay away from the PS6.0 85, and even the IPrestige Mid. The RDXmid feels more like a 93sq.in.
     
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  12. gmlasam

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    RoddickSafin,

    Where in CA do you live? If you live in the Los Angeles area, you should head over to Racket Doctor at Atwater Village near Glendale. They have all the racquets you can demo.
     
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  13. gregraven

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    We should all remember who is providing these wonderful fora for us -- Tennis Warehouse. It seems inappropriate to be recommending that others buy products at TW competitors on the TW message board.
     
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  14. KFwinds

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    I would recommend anything with a tight string pattern, and strung in the low-mid 60's. You can try higher if you still need more control.

    Try: Dunlop HM or M-fil 200, n6-1 95 (18x20), Pro-Kennex Type C, Yonex RDX 500 MP (HD - 18x20), or the Yonex Ti-88 (the small red one - hope I have the model right).
     
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  15. lude popper

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    smaller (denser if poss) stringbed. Ti-70, 88sq. ROK, 93 sq. RDX Mid, 90sq, Wilson Sting, 90sq (my favorite power void) -- max tension. if you find that switching from Ti-80 to something smaller hurts your game, than you might have to adjust your stroke, e.g., length, head speed, angle of attack. Some people who switch to a frame with less power, overcompensate by swinging even harder. Consistency issues are very deeply rooted (in all of us) and they have a way of surfacing with almost any bat. If you're missing by inches, than I would not sell the farm, just add some spin. However, don't let the technique freaks get you down: you probably have an extremely hard stroke and you want the least powered bat available. Point is: you'd rather not change your swing to accomodate a frame that is too powerful for your game -- no harm in that brother. And when you find that frame, call me -- I'd sure love to own something that never hits the ball long.
     
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  16. UpTheT

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    It's not the racket!!!!

    Hit the ball with your weight on your front foot-- Stop hitting the ball with a pancake grip. Close your stance, get out in front and you'll be able to hit hard and maintain control of your shots with any racket. The sport is much easier than todays juiors make it. Concentrate on smooth low to high strokes and you will be able to enjoy tennis the rest of your life.
     
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  17. Ronaldo

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    Look at your strings, try a poly, increase your tension, but you know this.
     
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  18. NoBadMojo

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    if you are hitting inches long i suggest you have a good problem..i suggest you make a very minour adjustment in your swing or string one pound more tension and then it would be fine. so are you hitting inches long with the frame strung at 60 pounds or inches long with the frame string at 65 pounds? if both, then you've a prob;lem with your consistency/technique
     
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  19. ferrari_827

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    The Ti80 is by no means a power frame, far less powerful than the midplus Prestiges, Radicals, Volkls, ncode. As Mojo said, a simple increase in tension should do it; if not, then there might be a technique correction required.
     
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  20. alan-n

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    Sounds like a problem of racquet face awareness, no racquet or strings will fix that. If the racquet face is pointing long, the ball will go long.

    This game would actually be much more simple and more people interested if instead of getting people to try, frustrate themselves, then give up in trying hit the ball over the time over the net. I don't understand why tennis instruction doesn't have more beginners start of practicing touch volleys so they can be aware of the racket race and how / why the ball goes in the direction that it went..... long before adding the complexity of spin.
     
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  21. bee

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    Prostaff Original 95 is a relatively low powered frame with good control. Add some lead tape to make it more solid and it's really nice for a hard hitter. Good spin also.
     
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  22. Radical Shot

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    It very well could be the racket. Here's how I look at it.

    I used to play with the TiRadical and loved it, only thing was that I was constantly frustrated by my shots going just long. I tried everything - lead tape, all string tensions, different types of strings, technique etc. I found minor improvements, but finally purchased a Pro Staff 6.0 85 after reading about the low power it had. I wanted to try the benchmark of a low powered racquet. The result? Instant success. This frame really, really suited my level of play. I could hit the ball with the same gusto, but now I hit a lot more balls that land in.

    However, it wasn't just the racket alone that made the difference. The smaller head of the PS6.0 85 forces you to concentrate a little, and the very low power made me hit the ball a little more out-front than I was used to - I needed to really plow through the ball to get it moving. So, I conclude that a lower powered racket, forced my to alter my technique a little and this combination is just was I need. I can still hit the ball just as heavy, only with a lot more accuracy.

    The interesting thing is that when I go back to my TiRadical MP for a blast, the increase in power is very noticable, however I find that after a very small adjustment period, I can paint the lines with it. Somehow, the Pro Staff 6.0 85 has taught me how to keep the ball in play - I guess it ironed out some kinks in my technique.

    That's why I belive that the Pro Staff 6.0 85 is a great beginners racket because it forces you to use correct technique which can then be applied to any racket
     
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  23. RoddickSafin

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    Lol the pro staff 85 is a begginners raquet *laugh* if a beginner used that he would never learn to develp his/her strokes. All he would try to do is use his arm and bang bang the ball.
    Did anyone try the rdx mid yet? how does it compare to the rdx hd? which rdx is the most low powered? thanks guys for all the comments keep them coming:)
     
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  24. loubapache

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    Well, if you go back 20 some years, many beginners were using racquets similar to the 6.0 85 or wood racquets. They developed nice strokes.
     
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  25. gmlasam

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    Hmmm...did you know Agassi learned to play tennis on a heavy, small head wooden racquet?
     
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  26. tennissavy

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    You might already know this but I can only try to help:
    use a thicker string. consider using a very textured spin string. increase the stringbed tension. I have gone as far as 10 lbs. beyond the max. recommended tension and there was no problem with frame damage.

    This is simple advice but I know that when I used a textured spin string, I was not getting enough depth so I switched to a smooth string and I was able to hit more forcefully so, if you do the reverse of what I did, you might be able to solve your problem which is the opposite of mine! Above all, the type of string is probably going to be the biggest factor in solving your problem, even more than increasing the tension. Get a spin string so textured that it looks like rope in a 15 guage or thicker, if you can. Good luck and let me know how you make out.- tennissavy@yahoo.com
    Mike
     
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  27. mucat

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    If your shots are often inches long, then try tighter the string tension a bit with the same racket, it should keep the balls in.
     
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  28. tedmeister

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    You're doing well playing with the RD Ti 80. Lead tape for now has no place anywhere in your racket's hoop if your aim is to continue to hit out and reduce the power of your frame. If you can get a good racquet technician to put some lead at the handles of your sticks, that should introduce some extra whippiness as you hit out, translate to more spin, keep it from going the extra inch. The balance would change to so much more headlight so check if you can live with that. Pros put lead tape on their racquets, the visible ones being at the 3 and 9 positions, some underneath the bumper guard but what most folks out there doesn't know is that it is balanced out by putting even more weight at the other end. Before you do this drastic procedure, try experimenting with tension and string type. You might get your cure without even messing with your sticks. Goodluck!
     
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  29. Tomek_Pl

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    What does your coach say about this problem? Doesn't he say to relax a bit? For me it's technique problem. Do you play flat or with lots of spin?
    I can see people having power problems with PureDrive but not with Ti80. This frame has low power already.
     
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  30. Go Tennis

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    Tomek PI asked if you are relax. Is something like that. I think you are over trying to hit EXTREMILY hard. The muscle of your body aren't relax. Also your mind. You are a kid, only 18 years old, you need to learn to play tennis with the talent. You can't change a stick That You Like because the balls goes long. It's absurd. Also stringing higher because of this is absurd. With good strokes, you can put the balls into the court with any racquet. Leave your mind to play tennis with talent and ability. What you need is perfect strokes with FULL ACELERATION.
     
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  31. philip18

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    Hard hitters own.. give you pace for free. Cheers lads.
     
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  32. RoddickSafin

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    What would be a good textured string?
     
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