Racquets Comparable to Prince Spectrum Comp 110

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  1. Tracey

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    I'm finally getting back into tennis and would like to replace my old Prince Spectrum Comp 110s. I loved this racquet in my heyday, but I'm sure that technology has made improvements to warrant me modernizing. What I like about it is the large sweet spot and the combination of power and control. I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a current model (I love Prince, but am open to looking at other brands, too) that performs similarly. For your reference, the Spectrum Comp 110s are oversized (110, obviously) with a string pattern of 16 main/19 cross and weigh, I believe, 9.9 ounces. Thanks for any input you can offer!
     
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  2. coachrick

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    I posted a short, non-useful response over in 'Racquets'...you'll get some good info here in 'Classic'. For many, it's a 'journey' not a 'destination'...;) . Have fun!


    Just for grins, this is what I posted:

    "As discussed in the 'classic' forum, the Spectrum doesn't actually measure 110"(it's smaller) and I believe your weight is a good two ounces shy of actual. There are some Spectrum experts who will chime in, I'm sure."
     
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    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Princeracquets.html

    you might like the exo3 graphite or the original graphite.

    also the triple threat warrior might be a good option and is CHEAP. closeout.

    edit: btw, if you like you spectrum comps you might just keep playing them, they are perfectly adequate rackets
    even in todays world. there's a yellow one for sale locally that i may pick up just for fun.
     
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    I still play my (now) classic 20+ year old rackets.

    The Prince Spectrum Comp 110 and 90 are great frames. Plus, they're not considered uber-collectible and ones in decent shape can be had on e-bay for $20-$40.

    Also, I think even the plastic replacement parts of even the recent POGs fit and can readily be found......this can be an issue with older frames.
     
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    I second this - you won't find a better one these days, manufactuing-wise or cosmetic-wise. I have a couple of friends that still play with their 22 year old sticks. :)
     
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    I know I'm not suppose to offer up for sale stuff, but I have a pretty much like new spectrum comp lying around my house.
     
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  7. Don't Let It Bounce

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    That 110 is less obvious than it appears: Prince actually rounded off their head sizes for marketing purposes back then. Your Spectrum 110 is actually about 103 sq in, and they tended to weigh about 345g with swingweight in the low 320's, ~9 pt HL balance. (This is not to nitpick at your post. It's just that if you go looking on the racquet selector for 10-oz 110 racquets, you won't get anything like a Spectrum Comp.)

    I got a couple of Diablo Tour MP's largely out of love for the Spectrum Comp 110, and it's as close as I'd expect to find among recent racquets. It cuts through the air the same way (19mm beam), but it is more cushioned in its response*, and once their specs are matched (with lead tape on the Diablo) the Diablo's weight is more distributed to the ends of the racquet, making it feel more powerful. I think the Diablo is supposed to be a little stiffer, but the Spectrum feels stiffer than it really is, so I don't really notice a difference between them there.

    The Ozone Tour, now going on sale in various places, is another possible neo-Spectrum. The longer strings make up for the 3 sq. in. difference, the flex is about right, and you won't have to put lead up top to liven up the upper string bed the way you have to with the Spectrum. It's lighter and way more damped in feel, though. EDIT: I can't believe I forgot about the Gamma T-7, which TW still has for a great price.


    * Speaking of cushioned response, does anyone else find the Spectrum 110's feel downright raw? I can't remember what I felt in 1986, and when I got one last year it quickly developed a tiny crack. (Apparently just paint, but I don't trust cracks.) It was way more raw than my Graphite Comp (same mold, immediately preceded the Spectrum), so thinking it might be the crack I recently bought another Spectrum. That one has the same feel!
     
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    Not sure what you mean by "raw" - could you clarify? :)
     
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    I probably couldn't. Those subjective descriptors are rarely helpful to me when I read other people use them. However, I guess I'd call it "the opposite of dampened", or perhaps "the opposite of cushioned". People who like a raw feel often used phrases like "gives plenty of feedback".
     
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    It's the way your elbow feels after hitting a couple of balls off-center, especially with the original skinny leather grip and Pro Blend so popular at the time. :) Certainly could be helped with a softer grip and some nice multi-strings or nat gut.
     
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    Thanks

    I stand corrected on the weight of the Spectrum Comp 110.....coachrick is right....it's in the neighborhood of 12.2 ounces (light at the time!).

    Of course I'll keep my old Spectrum Comp 110s for back-ups but last night, at the suggestion of a local retailer, I demo'd a Head Speed MP, a Wilson Pro Team FX and a Prince EX03 Black 100. I didn't mind the smaller head size (100 for each) at all, and though they were all fine, none of them jumped out as "the one." Interestingly enough, however, I liked the Head best, then the Prince, and my last choice was the Wilson. I thought the Head had more punch to it, though in mulling it over today, I realize that my preferences (coincidentally or not) were in order of weight (the heaviest at 11.1 ounces being my favorite and the lightest at 9.9 ounces being my least, which I guess makes sense considering what I'm used to playing with).

    In any case, my journey (as coachrick would say) continues but I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input....
     
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    Tracey, when I came back to tennis after a longish layoff, I initially bought an expensive new racquet, thinking I should upgrade to something more modern.

    I actually hated it and once I'd bought a few old classics (like the Spectrum Comp), I realised how much better they are than the current offerings. I don't think I'd ever swtich to a "new" racquet, other than perhaps the Becker 11 or something similar.
     
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  13. eman resu

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    Is this racquet prone to cracking or something like that? I've read somewhere that these ceramic frames would be a little fragile... plus, how does it compare to the POG series 110 (1 stripe)?
     
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    I've had 2 110s for a while & couple of wks ago a sad 90 arrived,
    this had a ugly crack halfway thru 1 leg mid yoke.
    Had an odd vibe going.

    I spent 2 evenings dripping in fresh thin cyanoacrylate into the chasm
    and clamped it down to set properly... seems to have done the trick.

    Have only taken it out once so far but it was a real hour's trash test,
    whacked all sorts of crazy balls - many on frame more than usual
    and it held up fine.

    Wife took it briefly & declared it too heavy, too "Miami Vice" in look for her style...
     
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    I have a 93 version. Seems to be solid as a rock.
    It plays softer then POG 93 4-stripe. However it has higher static weight and SW.
     
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    Do you think it would suit a small begginer woman if I strung it low (50lbs) and maybe removed some weight from the handle?
     
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    My 93 is 344g AFTER I removed the leather grip and replaced it with 2 overgrips only. It has balance of 4.5 HL and SW 340.
    I am 6' 180 lbs, 3.5, and it's too demanding for me, especially on serves.
     
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    not unless she's related to Williams/Graf/Navratilova... :twisted:

    Mine tips the scales at about 360g & she'd need biceps to swat that swingweight.
    No way to lessen the mass unless you physically chop the handle off.

    One of my 110s I've recently done super low tension (30 or 35lb) in Signum poly,
    the other 110 has 20yo fluoro pink Prince Topspin probably around 65-70lbs.
    The cracked 90 has some blue poly, fairly tight... all 3 still very lowpower,
    won't suit a grandpa user.
     
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  19. eman resu

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    That's excactly what I'd do. Remove all the foam pallet and the buttcap (very small hands). I put some tape to build up a flare at the butt, add syn grip and that's it.
     
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    Flare built in electrical tape is heavier then the but cap (I tried that several times). Build the flare out of hi-density foam or balsa wood, or red cedar.
    Even with somewhat reduced weight, you'd still be sitting with 340 SW. The only way to reduce this would be to shave of the bumperguard completely, only leaving the grommet strip (like on old POGs). Or ditch the grommet strips and head guard completely and replace wioth individual grommets. Then string with thinnest syngut you can find. You might come down to about 320ish SW.
    Sounds like a lot of work for questionable results...

    Why not just stalk the 'bay for a cheapo O3 Hybrid Shark, Turbo Shark or O3 White, in small grip size? They'd have nice spec and be easy to play...

    Or bid on this:
    *bay.com/itm/HEAD-660-Universe-Prince-Precision-770-Longbody-Tennis-Racquets-/271223750052?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2631fda4#ht_178wt_1178

    When you chop that 770 to 27.25" it gets into very good spec for a small women. I just did one recently for my niece.
     
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  21. eman resu

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    I'll most likely get a Prince Graphite Pro LX Oversize for this job. The spectrum would be a second choice. Is anybody here familiar with this one? I've read they weight around 12.2 oz, but it's hard to find any info. Hopefully the SW will be lower too.
     
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    better test to see if she likes using something this massive first before
    hacking away; smaller grip might make it even harder to hangon to

    Methinks its a pretty crispy unforgiving stick, transmits shock back &
    not good for massaging nooby egos. Around same time I was trying out
    Head PC600 & this felt heaps plusher, bigger sweetspot & more nimble.

    if your little lady is anything like mine, wife swung it twice & rejected it.
    Mine would prefer something like my TT Bandit OS (lighter,
    more control, bigger sweetspot, less jarring) ... but haven't let her
    try Bandit yet, big chance she won't give that back after trying!!!
     
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    I have a Graphite Pro CG (Classic series, right?). 339 SW.
    There is also Graphite XB Lite, that seems to be from the same mold. Name implies lighter, but I don't know by how much...
     
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    I have about a dozen of these 1987-1989 era frames & CTSes,
    they all play very similar... POG has better stability against twist though.
    Tried them all in my quest to find a plush elbow saver so they are mostly
    strung loose with nylons or multis. Found them too heavy to do any
    reweighting, so no opportunity for tuning there.

    Got a range of Precision & Graphalu sticks too, they play a lot nicer
    for only a few yrs younger. Even acquired a crazy long-string one this wk. :-?

    Some gems in the TT range too... Bandit OS great for when I'm tired & grumpy.
    Otherwise I'm starting to work on some TT Warrior MPs with the jelly bridge;
    TT Diablo mid is sublime alternative to POG Tour mid when I'm in
    mood/concentration to swing a 93".

    As said above, EXO3 White is nice light stick like Bandit now can be found cheap.
    A EXO3 Black has just arrived here :twisted: but I haven't taken it out to try yet.
     
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    Hey, Tami, Bandit is quite HH, isn't it? Did you do any tail weighing on it? What is the SW?

    Another from TT series that I found very easy to play and good platform to customize is the TT Scream. Even ballance, under 300g static, 305 SW. So easy to add a bit of weight to the handle and get very decent spec. 27.5" should help a small lady too! Just string it a bit looser then the factory setup.
     
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  26. eman resu

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    another option for her would be the Nblade MP, 18x20 98sq in. She used it once, and said it was comfortable but kind of hard to use. How different are these racquets, actually especially the pro LX? I mean, wouldn't an OS 16x19 be easier to use? The blade is soft, but has a dense string pattern and also a very high SW at 340.

    btw, sorry for messing this thread, oops!
     
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  27. Tamiya

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    current Blades feel pretty stiff, tinny & crispy... No like!
    I like soft plushy velvet headed mallets :twisted:

    only N I've got is a Pro Open-X; got a couple of Ks (Rage & Three)


    You're right, just reminded me I've stuffed about 18-20g of lead in their butts.
    Bandit is an odd one being more "hammer" style from factory; butt weighted
    it now swings like a OS version of the TT Warrior (I have MPs).

    Haven't tried the Scream... got distracted by LM Radicals instead :|
     
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