Rafa and Roger's responses to Agassi meth confession.

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  1. babbette

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    Nadal-"Asked about the surprise statements Andre Agassi, in which the U.S. admitted having used drugs. "I think is fatal," said Nadal, who said he did not understand "why say that now because he is retired, is a way of hurting the sport without any sense. If at the time the ATP covered the topic of Agassi and yes I passed other seems a lack of respect for all sports and from my point of view I want, I believe and hope that none of this is happening now. I think we have a clean sport and I am one who it want it to be, though I disagree with forms. The cheaters must be punished and if Agassi was a cheater in his day should have been punished, "

    Federer-Agassi's drug message is also for Federer, "were a shock ':" I am disappointed that something like this has happened. I hope that the outing was good for Agassi. That was better than keeping everything to himself"

    Roger takes Agassi but also in protection. He has done incredible things in his career, as a player and as a person. With his Foundation, he has generated over 100 million U.S. dollars. "This is at the forefront," said Federer.

    The tennis players are rigorously tested, according to Federer on doping - twenty to thirty times a year. Tests for spontaneous, the tennis player must have one hours a day available. "In the future it will not happen anything. "The sport is to remain healthy," said Federer. (nw)
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    With the language barrier I guess Federer is closer to Agassi and is able to offer Agassi the sympathy or whatever he was looking for by revealing this.


    But to be honest, who cares! He should've kept it to himself! What will he reveal next to shock when everybody has forgotten him...that he once had a male relationship with a player? 8)
     
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  2. dwhiteside

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    We don't know whether or not he just used it one time or multiple times. It obviously didn't affect him positively in tennis and I'm sure he didn't smoke meth right before his tennis matches since in 97 he was not even in the top 100. From what it said in the excerpt he maybe just did it once? Who knows.
     
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  3. sureshs

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    As usual Fed is all diplomatic BS, and the honest lad from Mallorca speaks the truth from his heart. Agassi's revelation was meant to embarrass the ATP. It could be out of spite for the way his puppet, Perry Rogers, was kicked out of the Player's Council, or he may have some issues with others during his time.
     
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  4. Vyse

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    I like Nadal's response.
     
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  5. All-rounder

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    You would bash federer whether or not he gave his honest opinion
     
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  6. Ledigs

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    The google translation makes it very difficult to understand what they are saying
     
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    Hurry guys, we need this thread to also descend into baseless discussion of Nadal's PED usage!

    But seriously, I'm glad Agassi came out and admitted it. I'd rather know something than not know something.
     
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    What exactly has taking meth to do with tennis?
     
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  9. sureshs

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    He needs to stand up for something. Just being against Hawk Eye is not a sign of greatness.
     
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  10. Nadal shouldnt even be allowed on commenting this, Agassi and Federer is pure greatness.
    Nadal is a buttpicker, crybaby,hypocrite,time-delayer and rule-bender.
    He shouldnt even mention Agassis name.
     
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  11. Ledigs

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    now now
     
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  12. This is my humble opinion.
    I dont have to like him, right?
     
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  13. LiveForever

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    You are absolutely crazy. Nadal is 23 years of age and is for sure gonna surpass almost all of Agassi's achievements. He is a great Tennis champion and should be allowed to comment on whatever he likes.
     
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  14. Blinkism

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    Don't forget that he's also a topspin monkey and a 'roids junkie
     
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  15. FedSampras1

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    The one who needs to be punished is Nadal for juicer:evil:
    He should have kept his mouth shut
     
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  16. All-rounder

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    I just don't like the fact that you don't respect Federer's opinion on this situation just because nadal's is different you may think its the right thing to say when in reality its just another opinion.
     
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  17. EKnee08

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    Maybe its a language barrier with Rafa- but taking meth, did not make him a "cheater." It is a recreational drug and not a performance enhancing drug. If anything, it was a "performance reducer" and probably contributed to his short-term decline. Thats not to say that he shouldn't have been punished at the time for substance abuse as a negative impact on the sport.
     
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  18. Blinkism

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    Taking Meth before stepping on the court could enhance your performance, though.

    It could make you hyperactive and super-focused.

    Agassi didn't admit to taking it on-court, but rather said something along the lines of using it experimentally.

    Still, it shouldn't be allowed in sport.

    But, he's retired so what can you do?
     
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  19. MichaelChang

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    deleted nvm.
     
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  20. Cesc Fabregas

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    Hahaha, wheres Mandy? Its Federer speaking the "politically correct nonence", she would be a hyprocrite not to criticise Federer.
     
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  21. No he shouldnt, and he sure as hell didnt say this himself, he can barely say hello in English let alone express something like this, i think Uncle Toni told him what to say or someone else wrote his stetement.
     
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  22. flyinghippos101

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    Double standards galore! huzzah!
     
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  23. EKnee08

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    You are probably right but don't most people play their best, "in the zone", when they are calm, almost at peace and in the flow. I would think that if one becomes hyperactive, they can not think clearly and may be moving thru things too fast to perform at their best.

    If Andre took it off court, how would it impact his performance on court. Is there a crash, etc? I don't profess to know these things. Fortunately, I haven't needed to know much about drugs.
     
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  24. jazzyfunkybluesy

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    Nadal took steroids?
     
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  25. icedevil0289

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    are you serious? I think you're exaggerating greatly by saying Nadal can barely say hello in English. Nadal's English is not that bad and as a tennis player, he is allowed to express his opinion on the matter. Just because you don't like Nadal, doesn't make his opinion any less valid.
     
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    Woah woah hold on now.

    For sure going to surpass?

    Anyway, the translation makes it difficult to understand.
     
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  27. Matt H.

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    people need to get over it. The older you get, the more you understand.

    People are human, and emotions are real. The guy was going through a rough point in his life and he tried a recreational drug. He wasn't the first, nor will he be the last as people make this decision every single day.

    It could have been the catalyst as it helped him to hit true rock bottom and decide to change his ways.
     
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  28. Ledigs

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    Nadal is a much better speaker now. Watch some recent press conferences.
     
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  29. Baikalic

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    Based on the responses to Roger/Rafa's responses in this thread I think this board is taking the meth issue more seriously than Rafa and Roger are.
     
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  30. You are right, i over-reacted and exaggerated, but its so ridiculous the Nad-tards think that God himself has spoken!
     
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  31. Nice to see that Uncle Toni sending him to Englsih summerschool paid off.
     
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  32. Matt H.

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    there are over 30,000 members on the TW message board.

    I bet at least 10% have tried an illegal drug in their life.
     
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  33. Agassifan

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    that translation is a disgrace
     
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  34. Baikalic

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    Who said that they thought God himself has spoken? I certainly didn't think so.
     
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  35. AlpineCadet

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    Agassi went from Shields to Graf, he must be hating life.
     
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  36. icedevil0289

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    so because one ********* criticized fed in this thread, you need to go into bash mode? You're no different from some of them then.
     
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  37. President

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    Why do you hate Nadal so much? I know you are a big Federer fan; I am as well. But that doesn't cause me to hate his main rival with such a passion.

    Honestly, Nadal has never done anything to Federer or anybody else to warrant such hatred. Are you just upset that Nadal has been a thorn in Federer's side for all these years and looks like he will surpass Agassi (another player who you seem to adore)?
     
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  38. icedevil0289

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    see that was uncalled for. The guy did not even say a word about fed in this thread, so there was no need for a bitter response and he is right, nadal's english has greatly improved.
     
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  39. I dont wanna hang out certain posters. Go through every post if you want to- thats the impression i got-if you dont agree it- thats fine.
     
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  40. That would be spot on, yes, im man enough to admit that thats the case. It troubles me a great deal.
     
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  41. NamRanger

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    Isn't it funny how Nadal defends Gasquet and Michael Phelps for recreation drug use yet he torches Agassi for admitting that he used a recreational drug?
     
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  42. President

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    I don't know about his comments on Phelps, but Nadal only said that he believed Gasquet when he said he did not take cocaine intentionally. He never condoned recreational drug use.
     
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  43. vive le beau jeu !

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    so... nadal (el nadal, el mismo, si si !) suggesting agassi is a cheater ? :rolleyes:
     
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  44. Thats a good post, never thought about that...:-?
     
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    Melbourne - Spanish tennis star Rafael Nadal on Monday stood up for US swimmer Michael Phelps, who apologized after being photographed with a pipe usually used for marijuana consumption. "It does not portray the best possible image, but everyone can have a slip-up. In the end sportsmen are just not machines," tennis world number one Nadal said. "Everyone is free to do whatever they want."




    http://www.independentweekly.com.au...nadal-defends-pipesmoking-phelps/1423124.aspx



    Yea ok Nadal.
     
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  46. Ledigs

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    Yes but Phelps was not in training for anything at the time. Tennis has a drug policy.
     
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  47. Im back to myself-mode again :)
    Im passionate, i get carried away sometimes.
     
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  48. President

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    That looks bad. Maybe Nadal doesn't know its against the law? His last statement would seem to indicate it.

    Also, rather than condoning it, he acknowledged that it was a bad thing, referring to it as a "slip-up".
     
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    I'm sure he knows it's against the law, but basically he's saying that he understands and that although he doesn't condone it, it's not like he'll hate the guy for doing it. However, a few months down the road he torches Agassi for the very same reason basically.



    I personally think Nadal is just mad that his free pass on the tests just got exposed.
     
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  50. President

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    Where does he say he will hate Agassi? He was just saying that it was bad that Agassi did meth and he believes he should have been punished for it.

    In his statement on Phelps that you provided, he said nothing that indicated that he thought Phelps shouldn't be punished; he just said that he could understand his actions and that no athlete was perfect.
     
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