Rafa cries.

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  1. Paul Murphy

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    Looks like Fed isn't the only one to get a little teary from time to time.

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    Toni Nadal, the coach and uncle of Rafael Nadal, tells the web site Puntodebreak that his nephew cried after beating Novak Djokovic for the 2012 Roland Garros title because of the stressful, topsy-turvy nature of the match and his rivalry with the Serb.

    “Rafael had been playing very well all the clay season, had not dropped a set, and was in position to win Roland Garros on the day before the final,” Toni Nadal said. “On Sunday [he was up] two sets to love, it started to rain, it stopped, the court was very heavy and Djokovic started to play better than him. The picture changed completely. Rafael had lost three Grand Slam finals against Djokovic in Australia, Wimbledon, and U.S. Open. When you come back on Monday to continue playing you know that the landscape has changed. You are down a break in the fourth and you know the importance of not losing. Because for us it would not have been a failure, but a blow. When you've played a season on clay perfectly and get to Roland Garros, the most important tournament, the culmination of that [clay-court season], and end up losing, it would have been a blow. There was a lot of tension.”
     
  2. Razoredge

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    So Djokovic did something to Nadal Federer never could..
     
  3. Clarky21

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    Totally different from crying after losing in front of everyone. I don't blame Fed for being upset,and I don't bust his balls for losing it after the AO 2009 final,but Nadal crying after winning RG is not the same as what Fed did.
     
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    Federer a "little" teary? :lol:
     
  5. Towser83

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    To be fair though while I agree it's totally different from the AO, the OP didn't specify that incident - Fed has cried at least twice after winning titles. He's a crying machine :lol: I don't actually recall Nadal crying on court though after winning RG
     
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    He cried after winning RG in 2010. He also cried after winning MC in 2010. Nadal crying after winning RG this year was not a first for him.
     
  7. Towser83

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    Ok, yeah I just couldn't remember one way or the other.
     
  8. tennis_pro

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    Wrong, it's said that Nadal cried for like 15 minutes after he lost the 2007 Wimbledon final.
     
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    Yep. I knew who he was no sooner than he started posting the other day. Lol.
     
  10. cc0509

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    We don't need detective Columbo on the case to figure this one out. :lol:
     
  11. Paul Murphy

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    It's all rather funny in a strange kind of way. :)
     
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    Not really. It is kind of scary. :)
     
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    I'm not "NSK".

    Don't know what else to say really..
     
  14. Towser83

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    I don't know. I know it's tempting to think every rabid Nadal fan is NSK, but posting style not the same and he doesn't seem like a *******, just like someone having a laugh in general. Don't think NSK would ost these even as a joke

     
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    If you are not I apologize. :)
     
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    That's the measure of how NSK is regarded on here.
    I'd want an apology if someone accused me of being him too. :)
     
  17. Mike Sams

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    Nadal got stomped on Madrid clay. Did they forget about that? :lol:
     
  18. Crisstti

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    He did. The OP should have quoted the question Toni's answering though:

     
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    You can't aspire to the number one without competing on that surface.
    No, for sure. Out of the four Grand Slam tournaments two are on hard court, one on grass and the other on clay, that is, 50% of them are played on cement. Of the Masters 1000, Indian Wells, Miami, Canada, Cincinnati, Shanghai and Paris-Bercy are played on hard court. It's complicated. You can't do it, you've got no choice but to play on hard courts. And well, we had three Masters 1000 on clay and this year we only had two...

    :)
     
  20. Towser83

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    never mind.. wrong post
     
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    No there were 3 on clay. Ok it was slipery clay but it was still clay. This is like saying Wimbledon isn't grass, and slow HCs are not HC. Not all clay is going to play the same. I appreciate it wasn't a great playing surface but it WAS clay and attempts to deny it just look like excuse making. Sorry don't mean to be harsh but I'd prefer if people just called it awful clay rather than say it wasn't clay or blue ice or any of this nonsense. It got screwed up this year, but so did MC and at times other events do as well. It was unfourtunate but then again the early exit Nadal got maybe saved his knees from breaking down at RG..
     
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    Ralph cried plenty after losing the Wimby 07 final,so he's no better.
     
  23. Crisstti

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    I do wonder if he tanked that match. It was just weird. Plus his comments then that he wasn't going to risk getting injured there, and the injury problems he had then already...

    As fro the Madrid thing, well, it didn't play like even the organizers had intended to. Plus, maybe Toni is of the opinion of "real" clay, grass, hc.
     
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    I feel if he didn't outright tank it, he didn't really put his all into it. Nadal hardly loses on clay, to lose to Verdasco when I think he was in a posisition to win, is very fishy :lol:

    But I didn't actually see the match as I was abroad and didn't have access to a channel showing Madrid
     
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    ****** probably cried again when he was humilated by the great Rosol :)
     
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    Crying after beating a rival with a (big) advantage is nothing to be ashamed of.
     
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    Didn't Nadal reveal that he cried after losing the Wimby 07 final? This isn't the first time.
     
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    In private and not in front of everyone. There's nothing wrong with being emotional anyway,so I really don't get what the big deal is.
     
  29. SoBad

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    Well, if you're an infantile imbecile who breaks downs in tears in public after losing slam final and ruin the champion's moment, then it's kind of a big deal...
     
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    yeah because crying is not an involuntary reaction. We always plan to do it.

    Also why Federer fans were so hard on Murray for doing it TWICE... oh wait, that didn't happen..
     
  31. Crisstti

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    I've never thought badly of Federer or Murray for crying in the trophy ceremonies... I'm sure they just couldn't help it. That being said, I think Rafa deserves credit for holding himself together after losing the 2012 AO final, especially considering how the match went and all the matches he'd lost against Djokovic at taht point..
     
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    If you are not feeling well, you just leave the scene. You don't insist on imposing your infantile drama onto the slam champion and the fans, unless you're a worthless imbecile.
     
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    Yeah I agree Crisstti, Rafa held himself together really well after that match, but maybe he came into it prepared for the worst (he talked about if he didn't improve he was going to lose number 7 in a row or something like that and he seemed not exactly ok with it, but very rational)

    I'm not sure If Nadal actually felt as bad as he did after losing at Wimbledon in 2007. He cried in the locker room after that match, and I'm not sure if he did after AO 2012 but I got the feeling he looked more on the positive side. Likewise I would have expected Federer to cry after Wimbledon 2008 (considering the losses leading up to it at MC,Hamburg and RG) but he was ok and it happened in Australia instead, so sometimes you can't account for emotions.
     
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    Running off court is being a bad loser and a coward, much braver to face the cameras no matter what. But I guess Fed fans don't mind Murray being twice the "worthless imbecile"
     
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    Nadal has the class to act appropriately in public, which Federer lacks.
     
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    so nadal got the cry flu from federer
     
  37. Towser83

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    Nadal doesn't even have the class to respond when the umpire calls time. He's too good to be bound by the common courtesies like everyone else. Let's not even mention groinal thrusting or disrespecting SW19 by climbling all over the arena. Would he climb on his furniture at home? No. Bad Nadal.

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    If tournament officials fail to clear a path, surely the Wimbledon champion can bypass their failures to accept congratulations from the royalty.
     
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    He did. During his interview with Jmac after the match he started to cry and walked off.
     
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    Sarcasm? Otherwise this is hilarious coming from a Hulkovic fan. :lol:
     
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    If he's got no class, sure. Funny how he ignores umpires calling time his whole career but having won he's so impatient he has to go scaling the building. That Nadal, time itself revolves around him!
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    To be honest I'm ok with celebrations up to a point, both Rafa and Nole cross it at times. But i'm debating with a troll - thus don't expect me to be reasonable, it's fighting troll fire with troll fire
     
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    Nadal cried a lot backstage after the 2007 Wimbledon final. He thought he had blown his chance to win Wimbledon, and after he had played every day in the second week, pushed Federer to 5 sets and had 4 break points in the fifth set with Federer serving at 1-1 (15-40) and 2-2 (15-40). After the 2012 Australian Open final, I think Nadal was calm and content, and very positive, like he knew that he could now beat Djokovic in the near future.

    Federer did cry after the 2008 Wimbledon final. He was tearing up in front of McEnroe in the post-match interview and McEnroe cut the interview short before Federer really broke down.
     
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    Disrespecting the Queen and the royal family is not the way to "accept congratulations" for his victory.
     
  45. Crisstti

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    Yeah, some thought he was just bluffing with his calm demeanour and words after the match, I think he definitely was much better than in 2007 Wimbledon. As a fan it wasn't at all the same either.

    Are you serious?.

    I wish he wouldn't get into that silliness of accepting congratulations from "royalty".
     
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    If you watch Nadal's interview with Sue Barker on the court after the 2007 Wimbledon final, it's obvious that Nadal is devastated and trying to keep his emotions under control. I don't think he was bluffing at all after the 2012 Australian Open final, where he was calm, positive about the future and physically exhausted.

    As for me as a fan, I was gutted after both those losses (although I find 2007 Wimbledon the hardest), but Nadal seemed content that he could now beat Djokovic in the future. Just getting into a 4-2 lead in the fifth set was enough to convince him.

    Remember that farce at Wimbledon in 2010 when Nadal was criticised for choosing to do practice sessions instead of taking some time off to meet the queen like other players did? How dare a tennis professional choose to practice :-?
     
  47. Crisstti

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    I don't think I've seen it. I find it hard to think about it tbh :-?

    Didn't know about that. Good :). He usually pays way too much attention to those people imo.
     
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    buttpicking very classy
     
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    So is yelling at the crowd to shut up,and cursing out the umpires.
     
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    completely agree
     

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