Rafa & Nole, Miami 2007

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  1. Cup8489

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    Back when Novak was just a baby still, and Rafa was at the physical peak of his defense. Sure he raised his game the following year, but honestly neither one of these guys plays like this anymore. Novak is more consistent now, but this incarnation is what I liked when I first saw him, a shotmaker with sick defense.

    Rafa of course with all his swagger of his younger days (well both of them). It would be cool to see the Rivalry get back to this to an extent, just the insane shotmaking and ridiculous defense instead of just ridiculous defense.

    Hope you enjoy the links:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCGNDMmxaX0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRX7fhH7d3k

    second link is a bit longer, didn't watch it though
     
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  2. DragonBlaze

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    Thanks for posting this. Awesome highlights! Especially the last few points with both guys jumping around after winning intense points :lol:
     
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  3. MichaelNadal

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    I really love the way they played back then too. It's hard to explain the changes, their defense (well Djokovic's) is still just as good, they just seemed to hit harder and play faster. Nadal was much more of a fighter then too.
     
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    This is when Djokovic is enjoyable to watch. Playing real tennis.....not the crap that he wins with these days.
     
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    such a Drama Queen this Djokovic. 7.41 min. on first link.
     
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  6. Clarky21

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    God I miss this version of Nadal. He is nothing like this anymore. He has declined so much it's shocking.
     
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    Yet all through 2011-12 he was far more competitive vs Djokovic on HC...

    But I miss this version of Nole. He has becoming far too much of a grinder these days. Despite his increase in success.
     
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  8. MichaelNadal

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    That's the exact answer to your first sentence here regarding Nadal. He gets too much credit for his "grinding/defense" in his early days but IMO he's less offensive now than ever.
     
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  9. Mike Sams

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    It's playing like this that's broken his body. Besides, he was only 20 here.
     
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    I love that match. You can almost see Nadal's knees starting to crumble with every long point. Vamos Nole!
     
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  11. veroniquem

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    Miami 2007 was the 1st master where Novak beat Rafa. He hasn't lost to Rafa in a master off of clay since. The only hard court master where Rafa beat Novak was IW 2007. But of course Rafa beat Novak in other events on hard: Olympics, WTF and USO.
     
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    Djokovic's forehand looked loopier then.
     
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  13. Cup8489

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    To me, I wish the rivalry had been closer to this. super shotmaking AND defense. This is the tennis I enjoy. I was getting pumped just watching the highlights.
     
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  14. DragonBlaze

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    I hate to continue the "back in those days" trend but Federer is not nearly as exciting to watch anymore either. He doesn't have that explosive power anymore so it just feels like he's playing the percentages (albeit pretty damn well considering his age). I used to love watching his forehand, can't say the same anymore.

    It's a bit annoying I think for all fan camps that there at least appears to be less "shotmaking" these days between the top guys since there defensive capabilities outshine their offensive one. Sigh.
     
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    This is akin to watching a sporting event of the 70s, I feel like one of them should be smoking. Thank God Nike doesn't dress Nadal like that anymore.
     
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    That's because the courts are even slower than they were in 2007 these days, so naturally the top players adapt and their games are even more defensive/grinder-based. Sigh.
     
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  17. Tony48

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    Why is Novak playing a pirate?

    But that was a great match. That was when I first took notice of Novak and became a fan.
     
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  18. Murrayfan31

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    Djokovic cut Nadal's career short. In 2009 in Madrid and 2012 at the Australain Open. Both extremely long matches that had long term effects. Vamos Djokovic. :)
     
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  19. mattennis

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    Great highlights!!!

    Unfortunately, tennis is not like that anymore.

    Today almost all players seem too cautious, too control-defense oriented.

    It may be the best strategy under current surfaces/balls/strings conditions, but for the spectators (at least for me) tennis was much more fun at any time in the past.
     
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    and that is what killed nadals' knees
     
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  21. Cup8489

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    Nah, Rafa's level went up from this match. 2008 was an insane year for him, especially in terms of the displays of his sheer physicality. He only broke down after the Olympics, and I suspect that was more mental than anything else.
     
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    Your Novak hating atm is hilarious.

    Keep it up. :)
     
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  23. tudwell

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    I don't see any appreciable difference between the way he played in this match and the way he usually plays, other than his much more frequent use of the drop shot in 2007. He probably took a few more wild swings in 2007 as well, since he was an up-and-coming young guy with nothing to lose, but he's still generally as aggressive as he's always been.
     
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  24. Hitman

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    Wait....wasn't this the weak era?

    Great match! I remember watching this live the day after Canas beat Federer.
     
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  26. Hitman

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    That match has Rafa's greatest backhand shot ever imho. He just blasts it! I remember watching that match with a couple of friends, and we were all stunned with the power and trajectory of that shot going at about 1000mph! LOL
     
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    Seriously. There's all this talk about 2007 being part of the "Weak Era". Man..If tennis still looked like this, I'd be all about the "weak era" coming back.
     
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  28. xan

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    it was an awesome match idd. I still enjoy all of their matches tho.
     
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    I learn from the best, 8)
     
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  30. Cup8489

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    I kinda wanna turn this thread into a 'favorite clips' section. Any matches from the past you guys wanna post? Go for it.
     
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    some of those points are absolutely insane. the chasing down shots and returning overheads. hitting 6 winners in a row isnt enough to win the point!
     
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