Rafa would be great serve & volleyer in the 90s.

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  1. tennissportsrog

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    Nadal believes previous tennis eras cannot match the excitement generated by the current stars of the sport

    "Sampras v Ivanisevic match, or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable, It's not really tennis, it is a few swings of the racquet. For me, in the past it was just serve, serve, serve."


    http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...-Day-Five.aspx



    Go to "Sampras fan turns into Nadal fan why"

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=473950


    This is one of the reasons I dislike a Nadal fan. Blindness Fanatic Arrogant.
    lol
     
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  2. winstonlim8

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    Actually, Nadal is actually coming in to attack the net more nowadays. And while I don't believe a mainly S-V player stands much chance of success with modern racquets, strings and WTF purposely slowing down the courts, I do believe that an all-court attacker will have much more success than people who think the net is there to trap them like fish.

    I don't think Nadal would have been a full S-V player in any era but he would certainly have started playing an all-court game much earlier and not because he needs to end points early to save his knees.
     
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  3. Murrayfan31

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    Maybe in the 80's Not the 90's. Agassi would own him.
     
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  4. jg153040

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    Well said. This is what my premise is about. And Paul Annacone agrees. He also said, that champions would be dominant in any era. Just that they would be totally different players.
     
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  5. Ralph

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    I haven't laughed at a post like as much as this in a long time! Thank you :)

    I particularly like the twist of overcoming fictitious events at the end there, re. the Death Star.
     
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  6. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    I disagree to a point, as the 90's were populated (in large part) by players born from the late 1960s - early 70s, where S&V was the norm model in the sport and the generation raised in that environment, yet some 1990s top players--Agassi & Courier among them--were tried and true Nick-formed baseliners with few changes. Would Nadal--in that environment be any different?

    I think Nadal might have tried to do exactly what occured in his real history--add the S&V dimension to his game, and become a notably well rounded player with effect, but when the S&V talent is compared to specific 90s players (Sampras, Becker, Edberg, Rafter, et al), and he would not be--as your title suggests--a "great" S&V, but very, very effective. By that, I mean Courier could be an example for what might have been, as he--in his occasional victoies over Edberg and Sampras--would play the net when necessary to counter the expected offense, and had some memorable winds there, but the baseline game is his native form.

    Nadal, is certainly not the "dirtballer" of his TW critics, but I do not think he would be one of the "great" S&Vs of the 1990s.
     
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  7. Forehand Of Doom

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    It's a good post from a witty poster who long ago took a wrong turn and sided with the dark side of the Force.
     
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  8. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    Zero. His chances at the other majors is also questionable.
     
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  9. edberg volleys

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    With all due respect OP but this thread is epic fail.
     
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  10. edberg volleys

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    You can't be serious. Of course I know that at the RG Guerten in his prime was man to beat but...without Nadal, cmon. Actually what I really don't know, what would have happened between peak Federer against peak Sampras at SW19 in 90's....
     
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  11. vive le beau jeu !

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    have we met before, sir ?... [​IMG]
     
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  12. edberg volleys

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    Vive, you are most hilarious poster along with F1 but where is the thread created by Michael:twisted:
     
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  13. vive le beau jeu !

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    mmmh... i think Rafael.J.Jackson made enough threads to ressuscitate carpet, so... which one are you talking about, and what would i have to do with its location ? :)
     
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  14. edberg volleys

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    LOL, this:)

    2013 TTW Awards: Winners List Thread

    At least I m not able to open the most hilarious poster thread :twisted:
     
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  15. Flash O'Groove

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    I think Nadal would have been a great inventor and painters, had he lived in the early 1500's. Imagine, with his work ethics, his perseverance and his amazing problem solving abilities, he would have shadowed Da Vinci him self!

    On the other hand, we all have to agree that Nadal is lucky that Da Vinci was an inventor in the early 1500's and not a tennis player in the early 2000's. With his work ethics, his perseverance and problem solving abilities, no doubt that he would be sitting on 10-12 Roland Garros titles now.
     
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    I see, on old grass, maybe one Wimbledon title or two at most for Federer.A couple of WTF ( for example, that one won by Corrteja or Kuerten), and maybe two more hard court majors ( lets´say instead of Korda or Kafelnikov at the AO or maybe one of the two US Open won by Rafter).6 majors in all, which is one third of what he achieved in the 2000´s...no wonder this decade is, by a mile, the weakest ( maybe only comparable to the strange 1986 and the whole second half of the 1990´s...)
     
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    Nadal has proven that he can adopt his game to any circumstances, so I don't see why he wouldn't have been a great serve and volley player.
    Also, I believe that Sampras would have been a great baseliner today. Those guys are just extremely talented, dedicated and, most importantly, mentally strong enough to be good in any era.
     
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  19. MTF07

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    lmao

    Sampras ball-washers are hilarious.
     
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  20. Day Tripper

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    Great theory - except for the slight oversight that Nadal has the worst serve of any of the top ten (bar ferrer) and definitely the worst of the top 5 ( again bar Fererr). Were he a serve and volley player he would get absolutely slaughtered.
     
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  21. Murrayfan31

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    I think this thread fails.
     
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