Ralph will win 3 slams in 2013

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  1. sbengte

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    Very well, dear sir. But I didn't get my answer to the genuine question I asked.
     
  2. Sentinel

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    Oh yeah, how could we forget that he played RG injured. And then went on to play WO injured too, and the grass matches in between. I am struggling to remember when Nadal was *not* hurt.
     
  3. sbengte

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    Why do you guys get all defensive about it ? I know Nadal didn't lose a single 5 setter from 2008-2011 while he won quite a few famous ones, didn't he ?
    Abnormally high levels of stamina and endurance in someone who has claimed a record number of career ending injuries and yet picked up 11 slams is as suspicious if not more compared to the case you are stating, isn't it ?
     
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    it's another account of NSK, vamosdna
     
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    Thanks for not answering the question. I know why you dodged it but you could have done better than this post. Lol.
     
  6. kalyan4fedever

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    lol............hahaha will he/ can raf do it with djoker losing to random journeymen ?
     
  7. Sentinel

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    As and when Joker wins the remaining slams of this year, the esteemed OP can keep starting a new thread decrementing the slam count :)
     
  8. sbengte

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    Don't underestimate the OP, he is a prophet.
    You will see for yourself when Ralph racks up three slams just like 2010 beating legends like Almagro, Verdasco and Youzhny ;-)
     
  9. monfed

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    Well Ralph has finally got onboard in the clay season with Madrid and since he's a surefire lock for Rome and RG, this topic isn't null n void just yet. :lol:
     
  10. monfed

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    Not to mention Nole's erratic form, Ralph is ready to pounce. He wants that slam count bad.
     
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    He'll take Roland Garros. He has a decent chance at Wimbledon.

    However, I cannot see him taking the US Open. Balls play far too fast and far too low there. I see several players in the Top 10 giving Nadal a lot of trouble.
     
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    Resistance is futile (in the opinion of the 12 yr old Nadal fans) - assimilate and repeat:

    Rafael Nadal is UNDEFEATED when not injured.
     
  13. monfed

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    Ralph is undefeated when he wins! :)
     
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    He will RG-Wimby-USO for sure if Djoker is in Fed's half and he gets murray and ferrer to bend over as usual. If he draws Djoker in his half then game over.
     
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    I wonder if Rafa will show up, but doubt if hell play to win, remember the knees.
     
  16. SLD76

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    Ralph saves his best tennis after returning from major injury.

    He plays his best when he is hurt.
     
  17. WhiskeyEE

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    just like he was gonna win 3 slams in 2012. We go through this same crap every single year during the clay season.
     
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    IMO, Nadal plays some of his best tennis at the USO. It's not pre-2008 anymore.
     
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    Rafael Nadal is UNDEFEATED when not injured.[/QUOTE]

    Federer and the rest of the tour is UNDEFEATED when not injured..
     
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    Wimbledon has indoors now, so I think he is still vulnerable there in early rounds. But if he pulled off three majors this year, that would sure be incredible considering the two thirds of a year layoff. First of all though, I would like to see a Djokovic 2.0 vs Nadal match in RG...
     
  21. MichaelNadal

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    We did in 2012 :)
     
  22. monfed

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    I think you have the version mixed up,Mike, cause that wasn't 2.0.
     
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    If Cvac suddenly disappears maybe, otherwise it ain't happening.
     
  24. Sentinel

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    ^ You were promising us Stan would win in straights at Madrid, no ???

    Expect your opinions have much credibility still :) ?
     
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    Yeah, because I was the only one who picked Stan to win. I guess the other people who chose him to win don't have an opinion that's credible, either.
     
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    if Nadal is too injured to win everything, he will send on 'Uncle Toni' to win for him.
     
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    You're right. Must have been 2.5 since he was good enough to get to the FO final for the first time :shock:
     
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    Djokovic 2.0 is like injury-free Nadal.

    If Djokovic loses it's because it wasn't Djokovic 2.0 who showed up.

    If Nadal loses its because he's injured.

    However, only one of them can be proven empirically.

    Only the other can and should be believed.

    Djokovic 2.0 is unpreventable when he isn't prevented.

    Nadal is unbeaten when he wins.

    Djokovic 2.0 can't be prevented by extraneous factors such as his opponent playing well.

    Nadal's injuries can show up independently of extraneous factors.

    If Djokovic 2.0 doesn't show up, he will when it rains heavily, in which case there is nothing wrong with playing in such conditions.

    If uninjured Nadal doesn't show up, he will when he loses, in which case it's because his injured heart ruptures his knees and breaks his feet.

    Djokovic 2.0 can't be beaten except when he is beaten, in which case he's not Djokovic 2.0 but v1.0-1.9

    Uninjured Nadal can't be beaten except when he is beaten, in which case he's injured.

    Only 2011 Djokovic is Djokovic 2.0 except when he beats Nadal.

    Djokovic is always Djokovic 2.0 according to Clarky.

    Everybody is Djokovic 2.0 according to Clarky.

    Nadal according to NSK is Djokovic X where X is equal to the total number of his accounts.

    Nadt@rds are deluded to believe what they believe.

    Fedt@rds/Nadal haters are hypocrites to simultaneously criticise Nadt@rds and hold the same beliefs themselves.

    Both are ducking noroms.
     
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  29. JackReacher

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    One thing is for sure, Murray will not beat Nadal at the US Open this year. Did you see them play in 2011? Nadal cruised past Murray. And Murray looked awful in last year's US Open, despite winning it. Murray is getting worse on hardcourts every year. So its up to Dj to stop Nadal at the US Open. Nobody else will. And did you see Nadal at Indian Wells this year? I know, different court speed, but Nadal's backhand looked flatter and better than ever. And the last time Nadal lost before the semis at US Open is 2007. He has struggled more at the Australian Open than the US Open.
     
  30. JackReacher

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    Its almost as if every time Nadal plays a match you think his opponent is this guy- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5zVB7TZs9I
     
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    As you've stated, Indian Wells is really different than US Open. His rally balls will not bounce as high. That makes him very attackable. Especially when hitting to his opponent's backhand. This has repeatedly happened in past years.

    I do agree that Murray won't necessarily be the stopper. We'll have to see what his form looks like in the coming months. Murray's clay performance is not an indicator of how his HC season will be, though. Murray always sucks on clay.

    I can see Del Potro, Djokovic, Berdych (although his form sucks right now), and Tsonga making a hard push. Nothing will come easy.
     
  32. JackReacher

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    Well we know Berdych can't beat Nadal, because Nadal has won their last 12 meetings (and only 3 were on clay).

    Nadal has won 5 of his last 6 hardcourt meetings with Tsonga (Tsonga's only win was indoors at the WTF and it was tight - and Nadal's Davis Cup captain was complaining about Ferrer/Nadal playing the WTF because the Davis Cup Final was just after it. Nadal needed to beat Tsonga to make the WTF semis, and played a strange match).

    Del Potro maybe if he improves his body and his mind. I don't believe that's going to happen at all.

    Dj is the only player I consider a true threat to Nadal at the US Open. Although how on earth did prime Dj lose to Murray at the US Open? Does the wind really hurt him that much?

    The truth is, Nadal is far more vulnerable at the Australian Open, because the slower hardcourt forces Nadal to work harder as the points are longer. Long points are no problem for Nadal on clay, but hardcourt its damaging.
     
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    ....wasn't nadal hurt last year after the clay season?

    In fact, wasn't hurt in 2009 after the clay season?

    Also, nadal is a prime example of why HC need to be sped up. Faster counts=shorter points=less wear and tear on the body.

    I wonder if nadal would agree?
     
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    I think Rafa will win 1 slam, probably the French. I still think Murray or Fed are more likely to win Wimbledon and Murray or Djokovic more likely to win the USO.
     
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    I would love for Rafa to win 3 slams! It is not impossible. He's looking very good on clay, which is a good sign for RG. He's made the W final 5 times, so despite the early exit last year, I think his chances are excellent there. And he didn't play USO last year but he made 2 consecutive finals before that. So he definitely has a shot as well and imo he can beat Murray/Fed in both W and USO.
     
  36. JackReacher

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    Nadal withdrew from the 2012 Miami semis (that is a hardcourt), and later said he shouldn't have even played Miami. See, that wasn't where his problems even began. It was in Australia. You don't have the whole of February off and suddenly get serious knee injuries (that required him to take painkillers for the entire clay season). The injury at Miami was because of Australia.

    Oh, 2009, how about that.....the only 2 years Nadal makes the AO final just happens to be the only 2 years he had SEVERE knee problems. And Nadal said that he stopped practicing during the 2009 AO, because he was in so much pain.

    And in 2010, withdrew from the Australian Open QF in 3rd set vs Murray.
    And in 2011, tore a muscle and limped through the Ferrer match.

    Like I said, slow hardcourts do damage to Nadal. He is far more suited to the US Open, where he either makes the semis or the final. I'm sure Nadal hates the Australian Open and would wish that they didn't play a slam on that surface. Just look at his painful history in Australia.
     
  37. SLD76

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    Hmm didn't nadal say at indian wells last year the knee was cured and then proceeded to play singles and doubles at last years Iw, and then a month later in miami played singles and doubles again and withdrew from the semi(after djoker made the final)?


    And yet...in both 2010 and 2011, after hiccups in Oz, he was healed with no sign of injury in time for both clay seasons, and 2010 he completed the clay masters sweep. In 2011, the only thing that stopped him dominating clay again was djoker 2.0

    The way he ran in the verdasco and fed matches? I don't believe for a second he had any kind of knee pain or issues in 2009 ao. See people who have pain show signs of it. A limp, gingerly movement, truncated motion, or you see the results in their game as their shots become less potent. Nadal *never* shows signs of being hurt. Always able to run a hole in the baseline.

    Didn't nadal also say last year there was no way in the world he could be number 2 in the world and have the results he's had if he was that seriously injured all the time?
     
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    Yes, this is pretty much what happened last year. I think Djokovic was ready for Nadal in Miami, waiting in the final, but Nadal just packed his bags and went home knowing he had to go through Murray before even facing an inform Djoker stating the injury. Novak was playing a fantastic tournament and having straight setting everyone in sight.

    Agree with your second paragraph also.
     
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    The problem for Nadal is that he really can't have it both ways. Either the slow HC damages his knees or the fast one gives more people a better chance of beating him.
     
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    Only possible solution to this conundrum, Play clay court tournaments and Wimbledon then withdraw from all other tournaments with injury.:twisted:
     
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    Great champion don't run away just because they feel defeated. They play all 4 seasons on different conditions.
     
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    if this happens again this year......
     
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    Nadal has difficulties to win the biggest HC tournaments, when he has to face two of the top 4, that are in form. I don't hink, that he has ever in his entire career won a tournament on HC, where he had to face two of the top 4 plus an in form HC player from a big caliber as well. Like, ever.

    When such prospect occurs, Nadal gets "injured".
     
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    Yup cuz people with bad knees play singles and doubles in a tournament a month after saying the knee is healed and the pain wasn't as bad as 2009.

    And I thought he missed 8 months after wimbledon?

    He seemed fine at MC, Madrid(til he choked), rome and RG
     
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  45. JackReacher

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    Why do you say Nadal doesn't want fast hardcourt? I see no proof. He's always been better at the US Open than Australia. And he won the Olympic gold on hardcourt people were rightly comparing to Cincy. It was very, very fast. The last time Nadal lost before he semis at US Open was 2007. Whereas apart from his 2 AO finals, he's never made the AO semis. And speaking of a hardcourt that gives the player a better chance of beating him, just look at what Verdasco did to Nadal at the 2009 AO....
     
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    It'd be really good if you knew facts before posting

    Nadal ao:

    Semis 2007(lost to gonzalez)
    semis 2008(lost to tsonga)
    Winner 2009
    semis 2010(lost/retired agaisnt murray)
    quarters 2011(lost/injured agaisnt ferrer)
    finals 2012

    3 semis, 2 finals, 1 qf, 1 win

    Nadal uso

    Quarters 2006(lost youhzny)
    Quarters 2007( lost to ferrer)
    semis 2008(lost to murray)
    Semis 2009(lost to delpo)
    Winner 2010
    Finals 2011

    2 qfs, 2 semis, 2 finals, 1 win


    Seems like he is better at the ao, though only slightly.
     
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    Actually it is exactly the same. At AO07 he was crushed by Gonzo in the quarters, not semis. So, everything is the same.
     
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    How dare you argue with NSK using facts?
     
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    Your stats for AO are wrong. Nadal lost in the qtrs in 2007 and 2010.

    So 3 qtrs, 1 SF, 1 RU and 1 W
     
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    You sure. I recall him beating murray in the quarter and losing to gonzo in the semi:

    To the wikipedia I guess.

    In any case if you are correct my point still stands. He isn't "better" at the uso.

    And he for sure has made more than 2 semis at the ao.
     

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