Rankings as of 10/2

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  1. Babblelot

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    3. Ljubicic - 5 career titles
    4. Nalbandian - 5 career titles
    5. Davydenko - 8 career titles
    6. Roddick - 21 career titles
    7. Blake - 6 career titles
    8. Robredo - 4 career titles

    Man, save for Roddick, that's a sorry lot. Nalbandian! lol
     
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  2. Moose Malloy

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    Blake has 7. Titles aren't everything. Todd Martin only had 8 titles & had a great career. Rafter only had 11.

    I'm sure there were many years in which the top 10 didn't have many titles(like when Rusedski, Bjorkman were top 10)
     
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  3. superman1

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    Probably because Roddick and Davydenko are the most mentally tough out of those guys. Davydenko doesn't have as much game, but he plays like 50 weeks a year so he's bound to win a few titles.
     
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  4. psamp14

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    seeing this list you compiled....roddick's had a commendable career so far...
     
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  5. AAUS

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    I dont agree with the davydenko comment, a mediocre player can play 50 weeks a year and end up with a 25-46 record
    Davydenko has more chances than other players to play well but no matter how many tourney's you play, you need game to win them and the endurance to keep a schedule like that up
     
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  6. superman1

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    Well he's not a mediocre player, he's a very hard working and mentally tough player, so he's bound to win a few titles now and then. And his win/loss record is nothing special. 24 losses so far this year...that's a lot. And he had a lot of losses last year.
     
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  7. Jack the Hack

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    I was kind of shocked to find out that Pat Cash only had 7 career titles. For a Wimbledon champ and somebody that played in several very memorable big matches (5 setters in the US Open semis, and 2 Aussie finals come to mind), he sure didn't bring a lot of hardware home. It seems that some guys are just big match players and they do well enough in the important events to get a good ranking, but they don't get motivated enough to collect regular tour titles on a consistant basis. As for Roddick having 21 titles at age 24 (with one US Open title and 3 Slam runner-up finishes), I think that shows how well he really is doing on the tour and should give some perspective on his ability.
     
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  8. sinatra161

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    Well put!Though people will say if it wasn't for his serve he wouldn't have half those titles.But I believe you hit the nail on the head!Most say that he is one of the most overrated players playing but I think he may be a bit underrated!At least concerning the naysayers on TT...
     
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  9. Moose Malloy

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    I think injuries are the main factor Cash didn't win more titles(really serious stuff like torn achilles) He made the semis of both Wimbledon & the US Open when he was 19 & missed most of the next year. I think he was ranked around 300 the year before he won Wimbledon '87. He's probably missed more time during his peak years due to injury than any other Slam Champion.

    I thought it was interesting that Courier had 23 titles. Looks like Roddick will surpass his total.
     
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  10. psamp14

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    yeah roddick has turned around his career thanks to jimmy connors, and i think he'll win another 15-20 titles by the end of his career...
     
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  11. Babblelot

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    re: Blake, the ATP site hadn't updated his most recent title.

    Like Cash, Rafter's career was also plauged by injury. His contemporary and also 2 time slam winner, Yevgeny Kafelnikov, won 26 titles. Like Davydenko, Kafelnikov could play every day and remain injury free.

    But your point about Martin is well taken, Moose. It had occurred to me that this might not be that unusual...???? But I didn't bother to research it. I just thought it funny to see Nalbandian with 5 titles (not so much Ljubicic, because he was a late bloomer).

    Having said that, presently there are five Top 10 players, 24 years or older, with 4-8 ATP titles. Other than Roddick, Nalbandian is the only constant.
     
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  12. Moose Malloy

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    Yeah, it is odd to see that. And that Blake has more titles than Nalbandian, that doesn't seem right.

    Some of this might have to do with Federer & Nadal winning so many titles last 2 years. That sort of dominance by 2 players at the same time is close to unprecedended. And Federer is winning titles at a faster rate than anyone since Lendl, so there aren't many titles left for other top tenners.

    And a lot of the current top 10 is pretty new to the top 10, so their title counts may change drastically in the next few years.
     
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  13. diegaa

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    exactly, but again, nalbandian is playing "big" tourneys and those which fit his *ehem* "tight" callendar. like early this year, he went to portugal to win Lisboa between a fishing session and a rally event. :|
     
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