Raonic has top 5 potential

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  1. St. Bernard

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    I think Raonic is a bit of an interesting case, because he is quite young and does possess one of the best serves in the game. People can overrate the bright youngsters coming through the ranks, but can also pigeon-hole anybody with a big serve as "one dimensional".

    That being said - people tend to either go completely overboard on how one-dimensional he is, or hype him up way too much. Personally, I sit on the side of the hype...for now. Despite the fact that he has not made a deep run in a Slam as of yet, you have the feeling that it may be imminent, especially now that he is in the Top 16, that means he pretty much would only need to upset 1 player ranked above him to make a QF.

    Obviously he has shown that he can keep pace with the Top 10 in Masters series, or 250/500s, he has pushed Federer a couple of times this year, and also beaten Murray, Berdych, Tipsarevic and Almagro, I'm not saying he is going to win a Slam, but having just QF'd in back to back Masters tournaments, I think he is a realistic chance of making a QF in a Slam some time soon.
     
  2. joeri888

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    The question is whether Raonic can develop the rest of his game enough. If he can, he's gonna be certainly someone with potential to be top 5 once.
     
  3. dysonlu

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    I understand that, at Roddick's peak, Andy was better than today's Raonic. What I'm saying is that Raonic *can* attain that level, as opposed to, say, attaining Djoko, Murray or Tsonga's level. He needs to improve his forehand to crack the top-10. After that, with some lucky timing (Roger and Nadal retiring and a few top-5 slumping), he can be top-5. :)
     
  4. Richie Rich

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    he only made qf in TO because Murray pulled out and Raonic had a walkover.

    but Cinci was legit and he had Wawrinka on the ropes and would have made the semis if he played a little better.
     
  5. Ellipses

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    Still lacking consistency. He needs to learn how to "win", if that makes sense. It's an intangible that I feel he doesn't have yet.
     
  6. Richie Rich

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    agreed. but LOL at us - guy is 16 in the world and we are here telling him what to do :mrgreen:
     
  7. Dreamcastin

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    this. he has far more talent than isner but just cant put it together yet. Im usually saying players need to play more aggresive, and I still think raonic should be playing aggresive, but he goes for to much at the wrong times and doesnt always make good decisions on court positioning. His serve is the best on tour, his volleys are amazing, and he can crush his FH and BH. Hes deff top 10 potential. To me its just a question of when he will figure out how to use his tools.
     
  8. pound cat

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    When Galo Blanco Raonic's coach was asked at DC v.RSA what Raonic needed to work on he said #alphabeticaly, A B C D E F G H I ......" Raonic according to his coach is a work in progress.
     
  9. T-Noone

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    it is my dream to see a US Open final between Raonic and Del Potro won day, perhaps in person....I'll start saving for 2015
     
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    Tomorrow prime time:

    Not Before 7:00 PM

    Ivo Karlovic (CRO)
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    [3] Milos Raonic (CAN)

    Make place for the huge servers.
     
  12. Marius_Hancu

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    Great 1st set with Karlovic
    R comes much more to the net
    TB now
    R wins 7-4
    Watch it if you can.
     
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    two great passes from R
    a 1HBH cross, topspin
     
  14. pound cat

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    Raonic hardly mised a beat today and got better as the match went on. He excelled in every category v. Karlovic (see match stats) and his return of serve was impressive. On to the quarters....
     
  15. Rock Strongo

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    Nieminen is always a dangerous player, just sayin'.
     
  16. GRANITECHIEF

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    Were you up at 3:30 am watching this match online? It appears so, you are a true fan.

    I'm still waiting to be able to record matches online so i can watch at my convenience.

    The Neims is bringing a lot of experience, but Milos definitely has the firepower to take him out if he's on.
     
  17. Marius_Hancu

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    It was more like 8.00 am EST:), 11hrs time lag.
    Tomorrow, about 9-9.30, the last match of the day.
     
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    fully agree, he can pretzel the legs of many
     
  19. pound cat

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    Bankok is good for EST watching..better fo evening rather am matches. AO for years has got me used to watching tennis at strange hours
     
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    Niems takes out Raonic, surprisingly comfortably as well, 2 breaks in first set, 2 minibreaks in 2nd set TB.
     
  21. Down_the_line

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    Another disappointment. Oh well, I'll always support Raonic because he's Canadian but I don't know where my expectations lie anymore.
     
  22. GRANITECHIEF

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    Results a little up and down, lots to do with inexperience. Missed a few shots by just a hair in the TB.

    As far as expectations, the trajectory is still upward and he has not points to defend in the indoor season. With a couple good results at the masters, MR has an outside shot at making the YEC.
     
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    He doesn't even deserve an outside shot at making the YEC. Aside from a handful of good results he has been terrible.
     
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    He has been terrible enough to make it to 14 in the world and probably year end top 10.
     
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    Ouch! Niemenen is ranked 38th.
     
  26. larry

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    It is Nieminen, NIEMINEN. Oh well, you'll learn to write that when he's in top 10 next time :)
     
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    Told ya, Nieminen is very dangerous, EXTREMELY solid. One of those guys who should've won a lot more, yet hasn't.
     
  28. larry

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    It takes some guts to server 105 km/h in TB (and win the point). Otherwise, once he gets some advantage on his serves, he should do fine.
     
  29. Marius_Hancu

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    he definitely is that, clever too; true pro
     
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    Looks like Raonic won't make the top 5 this year.
     
  31. pound cat

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    Best that Raonic and coach look at a few clips of Niemanin's game and any other opponent he hasn't played before he plays so they can make a game plan. The Flying Finn#2 was all in some sort of zone and all over the court to-day and definitely had a game plan v. Raonic. Mixing up his serve and preventing Raonic from feeding off power & thoroughly confused MR.
     
  32. ruerooo

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    I was disappointed too. Rooting for him to get into the semis.

    He's worked so hard to improve, but I think b/c he's so tall and has special movement issues, he might want to think about a psychologist so they don't *hamper* him all the time.

    I was at his USO match with MAndy and I had a fairly nice seat, so I was close enough to read the frustration on his face. Winning tennis is as much psychology as it is great groundstrokes and movement.

    And Niemenen is a well-known spoiler. Milos could have been better mentally prepared.
     
  33. pound cat

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    Niemanin beats Raonic, Gasguet beats Nimanin, Raonic beat Gasguet the last time they met. On any given day one player can beat another much to the surprise of fans and the viewing audience. One thing about tennis it can be unpredictable .and that is part of the excitement of the sport.

    The defeat of MR by Niemanin is disappointing momentarily, but all is not lost. Raoic is still marching on ...gained points at Bankok, let's see how he does in Tokyo.
     
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    You have that in every one-on-one sport. Even in some other aspects of life. You don't perform at the same level every time, your opponents doesn't either. And some people just have an advantage or disadvantage over certain opponents because they find them easy or difficult to play against, for whatever reason that may be (match-up).
     
  35. Devilito

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    his second year on tour, in which the first year he missed 1/2 of and he's not even top 10 yet. Wow, what a complete failure :rolleyes:. TBH i think he actually has better results than Federer did his second year on tour
     
  36. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    Karlovic got to #14, Raonic is at #15. Looks like Raonic has fulfilled his maximum career potential.
     
  37. NDFM

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    you never know what might happen next year, he could go further up the rankings or go down the other way
     
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    Yawn, yet another troll post. :rolleyes:
     
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    You know NSK doesn't like Raonic....especially when they were talking about Raonic beating Nadal.

    He will be wrong about Raonic....just like he was with Federer. I agree that Raonic is overrated but he is a definite top 10 mainstay.
     
  40. blackfrido

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    Raonic top 5? I doubt that one, I don't think he has the potential to be there
     
  41. PeteD

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    Milos needs to build up his income. When that happens he will be able to start getting big league coaches. Stefanki's obviously available.
     
  42. pound cat

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    he's working on it. He\s made a lot this year, and with his sponsorships and exo's it adds up ...and up...and up.

    Stephanki would be a good pick for him..
     
  43. Rock Strongo

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    I think Gilbert is a far more interesing prospect, just telling him to go 03-04 Roddick on everything and/or keep him coming forward since he is a good net player. Talking strategy, Stefanki would probably turn him into a pusher.
     
  44. PeteD

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    Tennis Channel site says Milos has winnings so far 2012 of $963,125 (career total $1.7 mil). So at 15% he could pay a coach about $150,000. Which is not bad. Don't know what Roddick paid Stefanki, but Roddick only took in $549,286 in the same period (but his career total is over $20 mil).
     
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    Double that $900,000 when exos and sponsors are included . Not bad for a 21 year old.
     
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    ahahha roddick with 20million in his career more like 80+ exhos and sponors easily puts him up tere
     
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    Wilander should coach him.
     
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    not on streams or TV tonight??
     
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    Dont see it on LSHunter schedule. Would like to watch. Please post if a link is found.
     

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