Raonic, Tomic, Dolgopolov, Dmitrov. Harrison.A worthless generation.

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  1. BeHappy

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    Raonic, Tomic, Dolgopolov, Dmitrov. Harrison. Nishikori. A worthless generation.

    Tomic has no speed. Dmitrov has no power. Dolgopolov has no consistency. Raonic is just a serve and the courts are too slow everywhere for that to be enough. Harrison is fat. Nishikori is short and injury prone.

    None of them will make it to top 5 in the rankings, in 5 years time when Djoker/Murray and Nadal start breaking down, that worthless generation won't be ones to take their place and win slams. They will be superseded by a new generation of young players we haven't even heard of yet.

    Maybe if Harrison loses weight he could make it, but that's it. He's the only one with a fixable weakness.
     
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  2. TheCheese

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    I think Tomic and Dimitrov could one day be top 10. I don't think they're the next Nadal/Fed/Djoko however.
     
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  3. ledwix

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    True. It seems right now impossible to predict who would win slams after the big four are all done; nobody seems to be a candidate whatsoever. Maybe the best player in 2018 was born in like 1996.
     
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  4. Netspirit

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    Sounds like a dream team, lol
     
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  5. -sparky-

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    Harrison is fat :lol:lmao
     
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  6. Roddick85

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    As much as I despised Tomic for his tank job against Roddick, I got to admit he earned a bit of my respect against Federer. While he lost, he still put up a fight and an overall entertaining match, I hope he keeps that up during the rest of the year. For the rest, Harrison will never break any new ground, he's going to have a Donald Young type of career. Dolgopolov has flashes of brillance but no consistency. Raonic only has a serve and his rather injury prone for such a young man.
     
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  7. tennis_pr0

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    Well, it's tough to compare anything to what we are currently seeing in tennis now. I mean you have Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and murray just winning EVERYTHING. Bay far the most dominant era in the history of the game. It will certainly be a while different feeling when these guys are no longer in it as much as they are now, just the fact that the sport will be more open to other players where it has really just been three players winning everything for the last 7 years or so, and will continue to be that way for at least the next three or four.

    As far as the next generation, I have to agree there is no real prosperity. Out of all the names you listed, I would say Raonic has a good chance of being top 5 if not better, but the other, highly unlikely. Maybe someone else will come into the picture over the next few years...
     
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    What about that tennis prodigy who wears his cap askew ? American chap.
     
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  9. Mainad

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    Jerzy Janowicz, Ricardas Berankis anyone?
     
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  10. Mainad

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    You mean Donald Young affectionately known on here as The Donald?
     
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  11. martini1

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    The next Fed hasn't born yet. I am sure. It is also unlikely to see the next Rafa or Djoker in the next 3-5 yrs.
     
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    Murray might be the next Djokovic. Only four major left and here he is.
     
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    There's something I like about Dolgopolov. I think he still might get consistent enough to have a couple of years in the top 10. I know his health is an issue, though.
     
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  14. Russeljones

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    So if you don't make top 5 you're worthless? I think the word applies to only one thing in this thread..
     
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  15. martini1

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    You are talking about number of slams won? I am talking about playing style and game. It is hard to find another top form 2011 Djoker. The nerve is just unreal.
     
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  16. Mainad

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    Yep, and he's still only 25! :wink:
     
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  17. always_crosscourt

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    He is injury prone because he's short? Like with Harrison's fatness, Nishikori's shortness isn't a weakness. If you said Nishikori's serve is crap because he's short, or Harrison's movement is crap because he's fat - they would be legitimate weaknesses. But you merely described physical attributes, as if, by being short, even if you serve like Sampras, it doesn't count because you're short, or if you're pudgy, even if you move like Nadal, it doesn't count cuz you're fat.

    As it is, Nishikori's serve isn't the worst of the bunch, and Harrison's movement isn't the worst of the bunch.
     
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    I guess David Ferrer is not good enough since he is short...oh wait...He is in the damn Top 5 (soon to be Top 4) and he is under 6'0. Your point for Nishikori for being short is invalid.
     
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    Yes, JJ is good.
     
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    TT forums are a great study of self entitlement in today's culture
     
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  21. BeHappy

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    But he isn't injury prone. Could David Ferrer, the marathon man have a career as a top player if he was injury prone?

    Nishikiori has talent, but he needs to rely on his big forehand like he did when we first saw him. His serve is not a weapon and while his movement is very good it is not in Murray, Djoker or Nadal's class, and even if it was relying on it will lead to him retiring in his mid 20's because his body obviously can't take that running mile after mile.
     
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  22. Mick3391

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    Right now there is some unknown 18-20 year old who will come out of the shadows, win every slam, and we'll say "Is this guy better than Fed in his prime", it always happens.
     
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    The generation of 00s (Safin, Roddick, Federer, Hewitt) was labeled "New balls, please" by the media.

    This one should be called "Inglorious basterds".
     
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  24. tennis_badger

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    tomic, dimitrov and raonic are good players, they just need time to develop their game more
     
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  25. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    Tomic only turned 20 in October..
     
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  26. Terenigma

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    Im not sure we'll see a dominant top 4 like we have now in a long time. Ferrer is the best of the rest we have currently but he's like 30 now and he's miles away from touching the top 4.

    I dont see raonic/dolgopolov ever being a top 5 player,Tomic has potential and i like that kid Goffin's game too. I could see them maybe being strong contenders but nothing as consistantly dominant as our current gen.

    I just hope we get some new talent break through because when federer retires and nadal/murray/djok all start getting older, the new "top" players will seem like a step backwards.
     
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    Silly post OP! Of the six names there, Harrison is really out of his depth - the other five are on their way pretty much to the top, but certainly not Harrison. I guess you are American? I suspect that each of Tomic, Raonic, Dimitrov, Dolgopolov and Nishikori will spend some time inside the top ten. Harrison is nowhere near that level - he is top fifty standard and will be there long term in my opinion. Dimitrov has no power!? Haha did you watch Brisbane a few weeks ago?! Dimitrov gave Murray all sorts of problems and Murray was extremely impressed with him - so I think he is a better judge than you. Tomic has plenty of speed and has excellent movement in general and really put it up to a flawless Federer for two sets last week. I think you might have been trying to get people riled up with your silly post. Two cents.
     
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  28. BeHappy

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    I'm not from the US, UK actually, I saw him take a set off Murray in the AO last year and was very impressed with his big, safe spinny forehand, big serve, good movement, good volleys, good touch and solid backhand.
     
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  29. tacou

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    Lol Harrison out of his depth compared to Dimitrov? These young guys are all on par. Raonic and Nishikori have been more consistent, Tomic has the slam QF, everything else is about even. None of them look more than top 10 players right now.
     
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  30. paulorenzo

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    harrison is mentally weak compared to tomic, raonic, and even dimirtov. his lone set off murray was very promising but he hasnt improved yet, unlike dimitrov after taking a set from nadal and tomic when he took a set off federer. so, if the up and comers are indeed a lost generation, harrison is not only included in that discussion but should be considered one of the weaker ones.

    unless a teenager comes through with a very polarized game with top level conditioning, no other future young gun is going to win a slam while the big 4 are healthy, and it isn't likely anyone younger than this generation are going to win slams before they do. conditions today don't allow for as many upsets to happen, you have to be really fit and really consistent to win, and that is bad news for guys just starting out on tour.
     
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    after the big 4's dominance is through, the tennis world will look different. guys who are in the top 10 now will also be in their twilight years. that's a pretty big gap to fill.

    now, considering nishikori, raonic, and dolgopolov are just outside to top 15 and while tomic and dimitrov are on the rise, it isn't a far fetched idea to say at the very least one of them will be in the top 5.
     
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  32. paulorenzo

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    sorry, one final thought. if the conditions of the game stay the same, chances are there will come a time when the development programs of juniors will adapt to the much more physical requirement associated with today's brand of top level tennis. i hypothesize that's when we'll see young players breaking through at a younger age again. i imagine this will be at the tail end of the next (post tomic) generation or the one right after.
     
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    donald young ?..he of the jaunty angled hat :neutral:

    he must be the one working hard with his mummy to get his world rank down to around the 200 mark.
     
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    I'm looking at the Quinzi/Nishioka/Coric generation for the next "great" player. I don't see any "great" champions in Tomic or Dimitrov or whoever, just top tenners and occasional big tournament winners.
     
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