Rate the Wimbeldon draw from tougest to easiest

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Who has the toughest draw

  1. Federer

    50.0%
  2. Nadal

    30.2%
  3. Djokovic

    10.5%
  4. Murray

    9.3%
  1. P_Agony

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    I think Fed got the toughest draw this time around.

    Tsonga, Verdasco, Soderling, plus guys like Karlovic who are always a threat on grass. For me it's:

    1) Federer
    2) Djokovic
    3) Nadal
    4) Murray
     
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  2. MichaelChang

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    Nadal. Hewitt 2nd round, Roddick in quarter final, Murray semi, and Federer in final, together with the un-bentable knee. :) Forget about it.
     
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  3. CountryHillbilly

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    Murray has by far the easiest draw, the rest is just hair-splitting.
     
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  4. SikSerb

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    1. Federer
    2. Nadal
    3. Djokovic
    4. Murray

    Murray has a cake walk and i'd be laughing if he doesnt reach the SF.
     
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    1.Federer
    2.Djokovic
    3.Murray
    4.Nadal
     
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    I just voted for nadal, but I think I do not really think of a toughest draw for anyone at all. the one goes through all seven games successfully will win.
     
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  7. shadows

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    Fed
    Djokovic
    Nadal
    Murray

    The wimbledon sites pic to illustrate the mens draw seems quite fitting

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    LOL banana skins.
     
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    those guys really have only done QF i think at wimbledon before at best...

    im not saying federer never gets a tough draw but this is as good a draw as anyone could imagine for him

    nadal gets a former champion in the second round, two time finalist in the QF, and many peoples favorite andy murray in the SF
     
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    1) Djokovic
    2) Nadal
    3) Federer
    4) Murray
     
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    1. Nadal
    2. Djokovic
    3. Federer
    4. Murray
     
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  12. P_Agony

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    Nadal meets someone who won only 5 games from him in their last meeting in a major. If Nadal is 100%, Hewitt cannot beat him. And no, that exhibition does not count.

    Roddick is tough, I agree, but Soderling is on fire at the moment (plus he was the one to take Nadal to 5 here aside of Fed if your remember). Tsonga's game is really suited for grass IMO.
     
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  13. iriraz

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    Even if Nadal would be 100% on grass against Hewitt it wouldn`t be the easiest match anyways.It`s not a guaranteed straight sets win for Nadal even if he would play his best on this surface.
     
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    Federer has the easiest draw. Soderling is a good player but is not a tough opponent for him period. Verdasco sucks on grass and is likewise an easy opponent for Roger. Tsonga is a hard court specialist at this point and not the kind of player Roger has trouble with. Roger has Djokovic in his half who is no threat to him on grass especialy in current form, instead of Murray who is a potential threat, and of all the quarterfinal seeds Verdasco on grass is by far the easiest.

    The toughest draw is Nadal overall probably.
     
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    Sorry, would have to disagree - for the reasons many have stated above, all 3 of the others have it tougher.
     
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  16. Speranza

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    Ignore that last post, thought you said Murray, not Nadal. Sorry.
     
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    1. Federer
    2. Djokovic
    3. Nadal
    4. Murray

    More dangerous possible opponents in the bottom half of the draw, IMO.
     
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  18. joeri888

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    If you look at matchups, I think the only thing that defines the draw being tough or easy for Roger is whether Murray's in his half. The fact that guys like Wawrinka, Ferrer, Verdasco, Soderling, Blake, Roddick, Robredo, Gonzales, Tsonga, Ljubicic, Del Potro, are easy opponents for him has nothing to do with the draw, but with Federer. You should look at, would he want to swap places with Rafa, Novak or Murray? I agree with you that Fed's draw isn't hard, but I disagree with your argumentation.
     
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  19. thalivest

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    I guess what I mean is the style of opponent and their surface preferences is what makes it an easier draw for Federer. It is guys who are easy opponents for him and who arent grass courters, even though they are very good players. I agree for Nadal that Federer's draw would be a very tough draw since that is the style of player Nadal has lots of challenge with on non-clay surfaces.
     
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  20. CountryHillbilly

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    Who does Nadal have before semis? Hewitt is not a threat anymore, and Roddick has an injury right now. Maybe he can complain that he has Murray instead of Joker in the semis, but until the semis its easy for him. Fed and Djokovic have it tougher.
     
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    Agreed until the semis Fed has tougher competition...
     
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  22. CountryHillbilly

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    Yeah... that's about it
     
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  23. thalivest

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    Roddick is by far the toughest quarterfinal seed 5-8. I mean come on, you know he is a way bigger threat on grass than Del Potro or Verdsasco. I dont think his injury is anything serious, we have heard nothing about it since and he sounds very positive for Wimbledon. Hewitt spanked Nadal in an exhibition match recently, grass is the one surface he can still be a semi threat on. He is was an easy 3rd round for Nadal at the French, but here he is a tough 2nd round. Tursunov is a very hard 3rd round for Nadal. Another hard flat hitter.
     
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  24. CountryHillbilly

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    Roddick lost to Tipsa last year. Hewitt won exhibition match but apart from that hasnt accomplished much recently anywhere. The fact that he won it long ago has no significance right now. Nadal has a tougher draw than Murray, but definitely not the toughest. Having DelPo in one's half must count for something.
     
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  25. thalivest

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    What has DelPo ever done on grass?
     
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    @thalivest

    Agreed, if Roddick is 100%, then he is at least equal to DelPo.
     
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  27. CountryHillbilly

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    Well, DelPo wasnt much good this time last year on any surface, but since then he has improved a lot on all surfaces. So he'll probably improve on grass. Asking what hes done on grass is just silly. He was just young for last Wimbledon.
     
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  28. P_Agony

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    I agree he's done nothing, but Delpo today is a different player. He's improving, and fast. His serve also became a real weapon (And it used to be a so-so serve). That should help him a lot.
     
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  29. Cesc Fabregas

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    Del Potro's baseline game means grass we also be his worst surface like
    Agassi
    Nalbandian
    Djokovic
    Davydenko
    Basically baseliners who take the ball on the rise we always find grass as there worst surface. Roddick is much more a threat at Wimbledon that Del Potro.
     
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  30. Jchurch

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    1.Federer
    2.Djokovic
    3.Murray
    4.Nadal
     
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  31. Winners or Errors

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    I know grass was his worst surface, but didn't Agassi win Wimbledon?
     
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  32. Cesc Fabregas

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    Grass was Agassi's worst surface but he was still very good on it.
     
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  33. P_Agony

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    How do you explain Fed's success then? He takes the ball VERY early.
     
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    Federer, obviously. After the first rounds, he could bump into Kohlschreiber, Serra, Lopez, Karlovic, Soderling, Tsonga, Mahut. All of them a threat on grass.
     
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  35. Cesc Fabregas

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    Federer has a all court game the other's on that list don't, Federer has a better serve and Federer has a effective slice he can keep the ball low.
     
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  36. P_Agony

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    Didn't Nalbandian reach the Wimbeldon final once?
     
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  37. Cesc Fabregas

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    Total fluke it was the worst Wimbledon in history he played Malisse in the semis for god's sake.
     
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  38. luckyboy1300

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    soderling's worst surface is clay yet he was able to dethrone the king of clay in his kingdom court. i expect delpo to make some noise in wimbledon. his big serve had been impressive at the fo and will become more of a weapon on grass. if delpo can play his fo form then he should be a threat.
     
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    Huge fluke. Worst mens Wimbledon ever with a Malisse-Nalbandian semifinal, and quarterfinals like Kratochvil, Schalken, Lapentti, as well. Nalbandian should have still lost in the 4th round to Wayne Arthurs but Arthurs choked with a wide open draw to the final that year. Quarters he took 5 sets to beat Lapentti. Semis he should have lost Malisse but Malisse was choking so badly the match had to be stopped for his heart problems, and David still took 5 to win. Hewitt made mincemeat of him in the final. He wasnt even prime Nalbandian yet. In future years he became a much better player and a major threat on hard courts and even clay, yet never made it past the 4th round of Wimbledon again. That says enough. It is by far his worst surface, and Djokovic beat him with a bagel and a breadstick on grass last year.
     
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  40. P_Agony

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    But it's still a final on grass. He still had to win 6 matches to get there. I agree the guys you mentioned probaly hate playing on the grass, but it's not like they didn't have any success. Djokovic reached a SF in 2007, and was stopped by Nadal, who almost won the whole thing. Agassi won Wimbeldon, so that makes him at the very least a good grass court player.
     
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    Like I said, a fluke or not, a GS final is still a good result. I agree Nalby's not good on grass as he is on other surfaces, but that doesn't mean he can't play on grass.

    I expect Del Potro to reach the QF this year at Wimbeldon. Don't forget he was stopped (I think in 2007 or 2006) by Federer - the eventual champion.
     
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    Interesting draw for sure.
    Nadal if he plays has Hewitt, Roddick, Stepanek, Murray. Also a semi dangerous veteran in Clement 1st Round.

    Also am I crazy or could Santoro do some damage and make Final 16?? or even QTR with Blake, Gonzalez, Ferrero, Kiefer blocking his way?
     
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  43. All-rounder

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    Can someone give me the breakdown of federer's draw
     
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    Is it so hard to go on Wimbledon site and check it yourself?
     
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    Haas almost had Federer in the FO, went on to win Halle so he's in great form atm plus he's in the Federer's half in Djokovic's quarter so a possible semi-final against Federer.
     
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    Nadal's draw is the hardest, than Novak's.

    Federer again has an easy draw, but Murray's draw is complete joke.

    And of course Federer and Murray are in opposite sides.

    You can't help but wonder after seeing this.
     
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    Fed's draw:

    Lu R1
    Calleri R2
    Kohlschreiber R3
    Soderling R4
    Verdasco QF
    Djokovic Semis
     
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    My internet has been playing up so i can't access it right now for some strange reason#

    Why do you care?
     
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