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  1. Bungalo Bill

    Bungalo Bill G.O.A.T.

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    LOL, anyone who has played for a long time can get an idea of ratings. This isn't rocket science. Everyone has a margin for error as the rating is just a startig point or estimate. A rating is given based on what is provided. The rating will be sorted out in competitive play.

    You use the NTRP definitions and make the rating. That is all it is. However, for you to pick apart an estimated rating is ridiculous. Especially, when you twist words. My ratings are not 100% accurate, but I am not afraid to provide a rating if asked. If the player doesnt agree, so what? It is just a frickin rating.
     
  2. ohplease

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    C-R-I-T-I-Q-U-E-D.

    Do you honestly think you're helping people? Near as I can tell you don't give a flying fig about helping ANYONE. All you seem to want is to be big man on campus and prove others wrong. Other knowledgeable teachers happen to have joined the boards recently. They bring a positive energy that you don't. Maybe your alpha dog instinct is to get all jealous and try to re-establish the proper pecking order (in your mind).

    If being this vindictive and petty gets you off, I honestly feel sorry for you. The fact of the matter is certain recent additions to the boards have done more to help other board members in their short times here than you have in YEARS. Are you proud?

    Gloves are off. On an internet message board. What are you going to do? Misspell me to death?
     
  3. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

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    Sorry Double B, I am off to the courts. If you wish to continue our conversation in the other thread, I will continue to reply in a calm civilized professional manner, stating my feelings and observations, mixing in my witty banter as necessary.

    Until such time as we can restart our prior conversation, I regret that I must bid you adieu.

    J
     
  4. Bungalo Bill

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    LOL, yeah, just what I thought. A calm civilized professional manner doesnt start the figtht with twisted words. You started it, so finish it. But I guess you already told me everything, you are afraid to give ratings, however, you are one to sit back and use them against others.
     
  5. J011yroger

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    Hey man, be careful! I almost spit my coffee out!

    That was great. Gonna have to add that into my repertoire.

    J
     
  6. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

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    I love you too Double B.

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  7. Bungalo Bill

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    LOL, run along now. See you when you get back.
     
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  8. Bungalo Bill

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    Oh no, havent helped a soul. Tell me what have you done in tennis? Except search for tips for your miserable game? Do you actually think you are going to change anything by posting a challenge as well? Do you think that doing a search on only one person on these boards makes you any different then what you are trying to get at?

    Well obviously that is your lame opinion. Because if you searched through this site, you ain't gonna be right! LOL

    Really, and you?

    LOL, well I know that isnt true. Where are you making up this stuff? Are you still hurt because I said your tips were lousey? LOL Are you? Are you vindictive?

    You betcha.
     
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  9. shojun25

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    If that video was a competitive match, then they are 4.0 ntrp. I've been playing a lot of 4.5 level guys lately, and I can tell that they are not at that level yet.

    I could be wrong because the video editor seems to cut some parts of the videos. It seems like the person was only showing the highlights of the game.
     
  10. TennisDawg

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    Uhh, Tennis Anyone??
     
  11. J011yroger

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    Im back.

    Long day, but you remember what it was like to be young and stupid, and play and train all day.

    J
     
  12. blubber

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    I've got lots of BB's tips saved somewhere on my computer.

    Whenever I have a question about something I rarely make a post. I just type the search term, e.g. topspin forehand, and search for posts by BB, Yandell, or Tennismastery. I also like whamilton among the new guys.

    BB doesn't need anyone to defend him. He has his own style and, believe it or not, some people like it. No bs, right to the point and in your face.

    There are pages and pages of good info posted by BB. He is a great asset to the boards.
     
  13. Leelord337

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    Agreed, i would have to go with 3.0 max. that one handed backhand needs some work. they look like they are playin in outerspace they moonball so much. :)
     
  14. WBF

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    While I understand that some people are conservative, I just can't comprehend why people use limiting phrases like 'max' or 'no higher', rather than more open statements allowing for error. Especially considering the fact that this isn't an exact science, and the input is quite limited.
     
  15. Bungalo Bill

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    Now we are splitting hairs and expecting everyone to be crystal clear on a bulletin board.

    If someone says "max" it is his best maximum guess. It still has to play out in competition. If the poster doesn't agree it should be no sweat off of anyone's back.
     
  16. Bungalo Bill

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    LOL, Well I do remember I was young, but stupid? That is a crown that belongs on your head. Mr. "I want to be professional about things".HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
  17. CAM178

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    Who is this Bunghole Bill character? He seems to be about 11 yrs old, and is most certainly f'ing up the vibe in here.
     
  18. Bungalo Bill

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    lol Do you know anything? Or are you missing parts too?

    Geeez, I searched your posts for any intelligence in them and it was a joke. You have added nothing to this site. Nothing! You dont offer tips, help, insight, nothing! ROFLMAO!

    I cant even comment on anything they are so empty. You're not even worth my time. LOL
     
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  19. tennispro11

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    So awesome! Keep it coming!

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  20. Bungalo Bill

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    LOL, poor little boy. Are you still hurt?
     
  21. tennispro11

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    Well at least he is playing tennis. Maybe you should go try that instead of telling everybody how good you were and what an awesome instructor you were. You know I especially liked your line about not believing in how much you were charging for lessons. LOL! You can go to any public court and give a lesson for free or charge whatever you like. That is the biggest load of bull ever.

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  22. tennispro11

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    Not at all. Just amused how you can keep making a bigger and bigger @ss of yourself everyday. You keep me entertained.

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  23. Bungalo Bill

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    So what, what do you care. I am doing pretty darn good here. And you? Havent seen any tips coming from you. I already know you cant instruct.

    You know what is funny? The very people that dont want antagonistic comments made, make them.

    See you next post. LOL
     
  24. Bungalo Bill

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    Oh gee, swear words now. Lots of hatred and hypocracy.

    You know what is funny? The very people that dont want antagonistic comments made, make them.
     
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  25. tennispro11

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    Doing pretty darn good on a message board? :confused: I tend to not even care about the tips/instruction part of this board simply for the reason that I do it all day everyday. I don't get on here to help out a poor lost soul. That isn't what I do. I get on the internet to entertain myself and relax. You help make that possible.

    T
     
  26. tennispro11

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    I just like to antagonize you. You can dish it out but methinks you can't take it very well.

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  27. Bungalo Bill

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    Yeah, but it doesnt work. It only makes you madder. I just keep on giving advice after advice.

    Plus, I am looking forward to read your advice. Or are your too stupid or scared to give it? ROFLMAO!!!!!!
     
  28. tennispro11

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    I don't have to give advice on here. You seem to do it all for me. You can keep your reign of tennis tips king. I don't really care. I am not mad at all. The guys that I work with all get a big kick out of you too. :)

    T
     
  29. Bungalo Bill

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    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! You mean I do it and you can't. You cant write or explain anything. You cant do it and you know I will read it and nail it. You are afraid. lol


    LOL, another little meaingless jab of insults. Youre getting pretty good at the very thing you are trying to stop.

    You bet I will continue to give tips and instruction.
     
  30. dakels

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    Hmm... I haven't posted in a while but in my past experience, Bungalo Bill usually has had a lot of solid input and helpful comments. Enough so that I would comment about it. While this thread doesn't paint a great picture, and I may not have seen recent posts, I know he has proven to be a valuable and knowledgeable poster in the past.
     
  31. Bungalo Bill

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    Thanks! But he knows that. He just doesnt want to admit it. He reads the posts and uses them. I have many recent posts that he cant comment on. He is just a little hurt that's all. The problem is, I won't bend one bit and that is what frustrates him.

    He is just mad because I didnt give him a good rating. His footwork was slow and he needs work.

    But I think you are going to make him madder because he is trying to enlist his "few good men" to do the very thing he is trying to not get me to do.
     
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  32. blubber

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    This is one of the things I like about BB's postings. It seems that whenever he's around he brings back a lot of the good posters who haven't been active for some time. That being said, he also brings out the inactive crazy posters too. ;)
     
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    I have read bb's comments in many posts currently and for years. They are solid. Not even the best players on this section can match how he writes and the depth of his tennis knowledge and the research he provides. Sure he gets in heated conversations with people who are stubborn and BB is a bit stubborn himself, but the poster that is debating with him is just as bad. Sounds like you are a bit envious of his knowledge and his dedication which has been unwavering for years.
     
  34. Bungalo Bill

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    :) I was just thinking this. Very good!
     
  35. beernutz

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    3.5 to 4.0 max.

    Anyone saying 4.5 or 2.5 is on crack.
     
  36. beernutz

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    LOL. I think you owe me one keyboard. This one has Coke Zero all over it.
     
  37. sharpilistik

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    3.5^^...........
     
  38. Tennisman912

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    As others have said a two minute video is not enough of to give a definitive rating. That said here is my assessment. We can certainly draw some conclusions based off the strokes shown.
    Anyone who thinks they are 4.5 or above has never played a real 4.5 or above. They would be smoked by a 4.5 or a good 4.0 in my opinion. The 2.5 or below is also a little low in my opinion.

    They both had weak serves, could not put volleys away with authority, did not move very well and had way to many short balls. They didn’t return particularly well either. A 4.5 will punish anything that lands near the service line with as little pace as was displayed on the video. A 5.0 would have them crying in the corner.
    The guy in the cap did hit a few solid forehands but had some really bad BH volleys. His approaches were generally pretty short and with little pace or spin. He might hang with the weakest of 4.0s in my area but all around I would rate him 3.6-3.8 because of the volleys and serve (and movement). His FH was decent. His BH was ok but not strong enough for 4.0 tennis in my opinion.

    The other guy was much worse and is no better than an avg 3.5. He played many out balls (way out), had a lolly pop serve, a weak backhand and no volleys at even the 4.0 level. He would get killed by even a good 4.0 in my area (not a tennis hot bed either).

    People always seem to overestimate the abilities of themselves and those around them. I think I my assessment would be shared by most of the advanced players I know. That said, they seem like average adult players in the middle of the bell curve to me (I think I read that 65% of all tennis players are rated at 3.0 or 3.5). No offense to them or anyone else who disagrees with my assessment. We all need improvement somewhere.

    Good Tennis To All.

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