Ratings: Season overlaps years, what happens to the bumped?

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  1. kendall22

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    Manhattan: The mixed league starts in a week, before mixed nationals ends and before the year-end computer rankings are updated. So people are signing up now.

    I am noticing that some people on the team pages have a higher rating than their system ranking under "Find a Rating" in tennislink. The Manhattan leagues are under 2010 in tennislink.

    Apparently, the only way to see you are a 3.5 is to sign up for a team. So are they going to stop people with a 3.5 designation from playing on a 6.0 mixed team (unless they find a 2.5)?
     
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  2. Geezer Guy

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    In our section, "Early Start Ratings" are released in the late fall. Our Winter 2010 season actually starts in October, 2009. The "Early Start Ratings" is a list of players ratings, and can be viewed at our Sections website. The actual ratings do not change (on TennisLink) until Jan 1. (I think.)
     
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    Yes, I am figuring this out, thanks to this wonderful board and knowledgable posters like yourself and amarone.

    The person in question has been given an early start rating to the next level. Eastern published a PDF I guess recently. We did not know enough to consult it.
     
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    The national ratings for the 2010 championship year are generally published around the end of November.

    As already stated, seasons that begin earlier are governed by early start ratings. Atlanta started the 2010 championship year in May of this year and the first early-start ratings were published in March!
     
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  5. JavierLW

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    I was wondering this myself last year. Our area does not have Early Start Ratings and we had a 2008 league go into January 2009.

    One guy was a 4.0 as of 1/1/2009 and still played in the 3.5 league in January. It was not a progressive league though (you cant go to the playoffs in a 2008 league that happens after the 2008 playoffs), so I guess they let it go. Not sure that's the official answer though.

    (I got to play the guy and it was cool, we were the first team to take a set off this guy in 3 years in singles or doubles)
     
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    It could be. Whether you can play in a 2008 league depends on your 2007 year-end rating (given that there was no early-start) unless you get dynamically DQed during the year.

    When did the league start, i.e. when was the roster deadline? If the guy signed up for the league before the 2008 year-end national ratings came out, then he would be allowed to complete the season even if it was a 2009 league.

    Atlanta starts its second 2010 season in November. Ability to play depends on the early-start ratings published in August. However, any player that gets bumped in the year-end ratings (which occur during this season for us) will be allowed to continue playing at his August 2009 level.
     
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  7. JavierLW

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    I guess that would be similar to our situation. (except it's the new 2008 year end ratings that according to the date begin on 1/1/2009 that are being avoided for a league that is officially a 2008 league)

    I think it's that date that confuses people in this instance. For tournaments and other shorter events that happen after the year end ratings come out, we're told that we can still play at the old level since the year isnt over yet.

    But then sometimes league spill over into the next year and then we're told we can still play because the league started in the previous year.

    Which probably makes sense, if it happened a lot, it would be a pain if you lost a chunk of your roster in the middle of the season.

    (especially in our situation since it's not progressive anyway, we just play for first place out of 4 teams and if you win everyone gets a pen or a water bottle that you dont want to drink out of or something else plastic....)
     
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