Ratings starting to trickle out...

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by nkbond, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. nkbond

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    41 year-end 12/31/2009 ratings are posted in Southern Section (Alabama District) from the facility where I play.
     
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  2. nkbond

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    up to 52...makes you think someone is entering these ratings by hand...weird.
     
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  3. JoelDali

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    Wilbur and I entering them all in now, we should be done by 8 in time for Cops.
     
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  4. nkbond

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    sweet, put me down for 4.0 and I'm all good!
     
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  5. JoelDali

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    Sorry buddy, Wilbur here has seen your serve and he says you're a strong 4.5.
     
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  6. GeoffB

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    Mine is posted. Bumped up to a 4.0. I'm in norcal.
     
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  7. nkbond

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    Wilbur needs new glasses...maintained my early-start bumpage down to 4.0, and, since I'm recovering from an ACLr, I could not be more happy! Great end to the holiday weekend for this camper.
     
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  8. GMay

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    My husband's rating is posted but not mine. We are both 3.0 so they must be doing it by rating and gender. He maintained his 3.0 rating. Still waiting for mine.
     
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  9. JavierLW

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    2 out of the 15 players on my team were updated so far. (both stayed at 3.5 including myself, both benchmarks)

    Weird how it works sometimes.....
     
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  10. JavierLW

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    I figured out the pattern.

    Everyone in our summer league that's had their rating changed was also in a couple winter leagues (that are non-progressive).
     
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  11. Cindysphinx

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    Yep, I have one player who moved up. She is a transplant from Atlanta. She moved from 3.5 to 4.0. Shouldn't affect our 7.5 combo team much because I already use her as a 4.0 for all practical purposes.

    Interestingly, her last name is very similar to mine. It looks like I've been passed over. Again.
     
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  12. 10sguy

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    Me too (gulp)!
     
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  13. fe6250

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    Pretty much done here now. My entire 3.5 team got bumped to 4.0. Wow!
     
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  14. robby c

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    It's a Tidal Wave raising all boats.
    In my league-Upstate South Carolina- mid level as well as the stronger players were bumped.
    I'm 4.0.
    Robby C
     
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  15. 86golf

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    From our club in Charlotte, the biggest movement was from 3.5 - 4.0. about 26 of 30 guys were bumped up. We only had 3 bump from 4.0 to 4.5 out of of 20. We may have five 4.0 teams in the spring...crazy
     
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  16. PatrickB

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    Still trickling in for southwest section, though I was happy to see that I got bumped to 3.5. :)
     
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  17. JLyon

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    somehow got a bump to 5.0, going 2-1 at 4.5 and 1-2 at 5.0
     
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  18. CrispyFritters

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    How are you checking these early ratings? link?
     
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  19. Jim A

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  20. michael_1265

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    Lost three guys (all of whom were less than .500 W/L) from my 3.0 team that was 2-7 last year.

    Crap.
     
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  21. Jim A

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    that seems to be par for the course, 16 of the 23 3.0's I beat last year were bumped up to 3.5
     
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  22. Blask

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    unbelievable how many people they are moving up. A lot of guys on my team who I thought might get moved down actually got bumped up. Crazy
     
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  23. bpp

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    I got bumped as well. I was expecting it.
     
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  24. Blade0324

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    5 of my 11 on my team got the bump from 3.5 to 4.0 and i went to 4.5, gulp.
     
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  25. Cindysphinx

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    OK, I am stoked!

    My top women didn't get moved up. All of the women who have been handing me my head got moved up to 4.0.

    Maybe now I can win a match?

    Cindy -- who just got crushed by a new 3.5 woman and a new 4.5 guy in 7.0 mixed
     
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  26. bpp

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    Half of our 3.5 team got bumped. Everyone who should have gotten bumped did, along with all the borderline players and 2-3 players that should not have been bumped. Hopefully those 2-3 players can appeal because I dont think they belong at 4.0.
     
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  27. kylebarendrick

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    I've gotten my bump to 4.0 - looking forward to playing at a new level. About 2/3 of my 3.5 team was also bumped.
     
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  28. Cindysphinx

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    OK, it's not just in my head. I have actual data to prove that I am better than my miserable 2009 record shows.

    I lost 18 ladies 3.4 or 4.0 matches in 2009. In 14 cases, one or both opponents were already 4.0 or were just bumped to 4.0. I had just two losses to teams where all players were 3.5s (both in 3rd set tiebreaks), and one 7.5 combo tiebreak loss where both teams were 7.5. I also had two wins over teams where one player was just bumped to 4.0.

    Well, that makes me feel a bit better about things. In this new rating regime, I am definitely on the high end of 3.5. Sweet!

    I feel like I have been sitting in a massive 3.5 traffic jam for two years, and finally the bottleneck is starting to clear out.
     
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  29. OrangePower

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    It's mayhem out there!!!

    Absolutely crazy amount of people bumped up. I got bumped to 4.5 and was expecting it, but more than half of my 4.0 team also got bumped which is totally unexpected. Captains everywhere are tearing their hair out as we speak... :twisted:
     
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  30. Cindysphinx

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    Not all captains.

    Some of us are thrilled that we actually have a shot now. Dynasties are crumbling all around me.

    Huzzah!!
     
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  31. lagniappe12

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    I got bumped to 3.0 after only two USTA matches ever...
     
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  32. bleach

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    I got bumped to 4.0. 11 of 14 on my team were bumped and benchmarked, so no appeal!
     
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  33. atatu

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    There were 12 guys in Austin bumped from 4.5 to 5.0, or those twelve I would say only three were surprises. Still, that is a higher percentage of guys getting bumped than usual.
     
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  34. JRstriker12

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    Bumped to 4.0...... last night. 8)
     
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  35. herrburgess

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    I got the dreaded double-bump (from 2.5 to 3.5). Now I can't play 2.5 in January at combo Sectionals. Will instead have to play at 3.0 with the old 2.5s...No appeal either, as it's a B rating.
     
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  36. mirnyifan

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    They bumped a ton of people in Tennessee, especially in 3.5 and 4.0!!!
     
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  37. Jim A

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    That is the correction though, especially at 3.0/3.5 where they are bumping more up to the next level to get to what the USTA believes is the correct rated player at the proper level

    Am I surprised at some of the people who were bumped, of course. However I think its better for the game to have 3.0 (for men at least) be more like a 2.5 since 2.5 is virtually non-existent in most cases
     
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  38. bpp

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    I appealed my rating and they denied it. I actually think this is a good thing as I think this puts a lot of people more in line with what their actual rating should be. I just feel sorry for some like on my team who had bad losing records in doubles but got bumped because of one or two strong matches when paired with a strong player.
     
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  39. raiden031

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    I'm not sure what to make of it. Roughly 70 men in my league got moved from 3.5 to 4.0. I actually thought that I was the perfect example of a border-level player and now there are dozens of new people who I would easily beat in singles that are now at 4.0 as well. This definitely re-defines the 4.0 level, that is for sure. For all the players that got moved up to 4.0, it doesn't seem like enough got moved out of 4.0. So now there are still alot of strong players at 4.0 and also alot of significantly weak players.
     
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  40. Cindysphinx

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    That's my feeling too, Raiden. Now there are a whole bunch of 3.5 women I can beat, and I'm not seeing too many 3.5 names out there that strike fear into my heart.

    Ironically, relatively few women on my 3.5 team that went to sectionals moved up. Weird.
     
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  41. mirnyifan

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    I think this is going to cause a lot of people (ahem... like team captains) to have a complete mind shift in the way they perceive ratings. I mean it's like last year's 3.0 level is now 3.5, 3.5 is now 4.0 and so on... I think it's great!
     
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  42. raiden031

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    One thing that makes me feel good is that like 4 out of 8 guys who beat me in singles got moved up to 4.5.
     
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  43. 86golf

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    Appeals are being granted. I saw a rumor that if you played 5 matches you wouldn't be allowed to appeal, but that isn't true. Several guys from my team won their appeal, unfortunately I wasn't one of them.

    Put your ego aside and appeal. Our pro is recommending that everyone appeal. If you get denied, then you are likely where you should be, however I agree that there will be more disparity at the 4.0 level now.
     
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  44. raiden031

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    Appealing is for cowards.

    The rule is something like if you played 6 or more matches that count towards your DNTRP. Some matches against self-rated players do not count towards your DNTRP, which might explain why some of your teammates won their appeals.
     
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  45. Cindysphinx

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    Correction: Appeals are for cowards, weaklings and girly-men.
     
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  46. mirnyifan

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    I agree Raiden. Appealing down is for cowards!
     
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  47. 86golf

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    Well, I'll disagree and here is the reality. Come February, I'll have 50 guys wanting to play in the spring. A bunch of them will be 4.0 bump ups with losing records at the 3.5 level. I'm sorry but it will be difficult to get them on teams with legit 4.0's. Plus, we don't have the courts to support 4 teams. There are still a lot of strong 4.0's that didn't get bumped that will destroy these borderline players.
     
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  48. schap02

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    I know USTA was trying to level out the field a bit but does anyone else feel that they moved WAY too many guys into 4.0 and way too many to 4.5 - most of the 5.0's I know didn't get bumped and it's a little odd that I could be playing them on mixed and combo teams, I truly think that USTA needed more teams at higher levels??

    Anyone else similar thoughts?
     
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  49. raiden031

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    With this many new players at 4.0, there will be new teams created to accomodate them. How can 3.5 have the courts to accomodate them but not 4.0?
     
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  50. innoVAShaun

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    Haha... my 2.5 parter that I won 6.5 VA Championships with is now a 3.5!
     
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