Recent College Players That Turned Pro

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  1. tennis_tater

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    Tennys Sandgren just lost to Christian Harrison. Harrison has to be 17 or 18 years old....pretty good win for the young kid who seems to have been battling injuries for a while now.
     
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    Bradley Klahn took out Denis Kudla 6-4 7-6 in the 1st round at Binghamton.
     
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    Hey, did you know that Christian Harrison made the ATP top 100?

    That tidbit comes from the official home page of the tournament. :roll:
     
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    That is from somebody who got the two brothers mixed up. Christian's highest ranking is barely in the 600's, which is still pretty good considering he took almost a year off because he was injured.

    I'm curious if Christian will try and get a wildcard for Kzoo to try and get into the US Open. That would definitely shake things up a little bit.
     
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    Oh I know-- just thought it was funny that the writer didn't.
     
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    Both Bradley Klahn and Nick Meister came through Qualies and have earned Main Draw entry in LA. Klahn knocked off Alex Kuznetesov 7-6 7-6 & Meister beat Jimmy Wang 6-4 7-6
     
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    Sekou Bangoura and Austin Krajicek came through qualies in Lexington to make the main draw. Krajicek beat UVA's Jarmere Jenkins 6-1 6-2 and Bangoura beat #540 Catalin-Ionut Gard 6-3 6-4. Sekou will meet Christian Harrison in the 1st round while Krajicek meets former UCLA Bruin Daniel Kosakowski. Chase Buchanan, Eric Quigley, Rhyne Williams, and Tennys Sandgren are also entered in Lexington.
     
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    Ryan Thacher and Daniel Nguyen came through qualies to make the main draw and in fact will face each other in the 1st round
     
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    I saw Henrik Wiershom, a rising soph in HS, and Stefan Kozlov, a rising frosh. in HS, both got WC's into the tournament. Unless I'm reading the draw wrong, it looks like the two WC's got paired up and play each other in the first round. I thought that was a little odd to pit two really young juniors like that as WC's in a tournament like this. Is the draw in the sense of where WC's go random?
     
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    The draws are random. Contrary to some who believe there's a conspiracy when two WC's or two Q's play each other in the first round, there is none.
     
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    It is not random. It is done so one of those guys ends up with a futures point and a pro ranking regardless. It is how the USTA pushes their kids through the system. So believe what you want. But go back and check futures when it is WC v WC and see who is playing who. It's obvious.
     
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    Can you show us in the rules where pro tournaments have the ability to place players in the draw? Not challenging you. Just like to be educated.
     
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    He is suggesting they are fixed.
     
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    Let's do the math. 12 players are qualifiers or wild cards; 8 players are seeds, and 12 players are neither(a.k.a. direct entrants), for a total of 32. The 8 seeds get fixed spots on the draw sheet, then you draw 24 names at random and stick them in the remaining 24 slots. How often do you get qualifier-or-wild card vs. qualifier-or-wild card? Pretty darn often, because the only draw that avoids such pairings has the 12 qualifiers/wild cards each paired vs. one of the 12 unseeded direct entrants. If I saw that happen, I would be remarking about how unlikely it is!

    This is the old problem from probability class with the red balls and blue balls in a bucket, and you reach in blind and grab one, then reach in blind and grab the next one, etc. How likely are you to get two reds in a row or two blues in a row? By the time you finish the bucket, it will have happened several times. So, I expect every 32 draw to have "lucky" qualifiers/wild cards who play other qualifiers/wild cards instead of having to play seeds or direct entrants.

    For the more limited case of wild card vs. wild card, when Dennis Nevolo's ball is fetched from the bucket and put in draw slot #5, how likely is it that he will get lucky and play another wild card, as happened in this case? Well, there were 20 balls left in the bucket at that point, and 3 were fellow wild cards, so there was a 15% chance. When qualifier Alexios Halebian went into the 3 slot, there was an 11/22 = 50% chance he would face another qualifier or wild card, which happened. No big deal.

    However, there is a fairly low probability that all 4 wild cards would end up paired against each other in just two matches in the first round, as we see in this draw. If that happens every tournament, then the draw is not random. So, someone could look at draws with about 4 wild card players and see how often it happens, and then we would have a good idea of whether it is random. In this case, you even have the two older wild cards (Illini collegians) against each other, and the two young wild cards (Wiersholm and Kozlov) against each other. if THAT keeps happening, it defies all odds of randomness.

    The previous week in Joplin, Missouri, all four wild cards were collegians or older, with no young ones. So, I started back at the first of the year:

    Plantation, FL: no young wild cards

    Sunrise, FL: Mitchell Krueger only junior wild card, was paired against #4 seed in first round and lost.

    Weston, FL: Three young wild cards. Fratangelo was paired against a qualifier who was higher ranked (Ed Corrie) and lost in straights. Austin Smith, ranked 1271, was paired against the collegian wild card, Sekou Bangoura, ranked 876, and pulled off the upset. Alexios Halebian was paired against #7 seed Daniel Kosakowski and pulled off a three-set upset.

    Palm Coast, FL: One young wild card. Thai Kwiatkowski paired against #6 seed and lost in straights.

    Brownsville, TX: One young wild card. Michael Redlicki paired against #4 seed and lost in straights.

    Harlingen, TX: Four young wild cards. All four lose in the first round to tough draws (Shane Vinsant, Mitchell Krueger, Michael Redlicki, and Mac Styslinger). Bjorn Fratangelo gets a special Junior Entry slot and draws #4 seed Greg Ouellette and pulls off the upset.

    I am not seeing much of a pattern here, but others are free to continue at the USTA Pro Circuits page for March. I did January and February above.
     
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    Bradley Klahn knocked out of by #91 Paolo Lorenzi in the 1st round of LA ATP Event. 6-4 3-6 6-0 the final score. Nick Meister lost to Xavier Malisse 6-4 6-1. Both Meister and Klahn did well to get through qualies by beating several Top 250 players along the way - not a bad start to their pro careers. Will be interesting to see how they do the rest of the year.
     
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    Steve Johnson lost in straights, 7-6, 6-3, to Igor Sijsling.

    Next stop, probably Washington, then Cinci, Winston-Salem, US Open.
     
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    Looks like Kozlov won the match v. Wiershom and now plays another junior in the next round. So, either a HS frosh or rising HS senior will make the quarters of this tournament.
     
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  21. mikej

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    true, good for him for wanting to go the medicine route, but by the time he
    1) spends a year or a few trying pro tennis
    2) spends a year or a few getting the premed reqs done and taking the MCAT and applying
    3) nearly a decade of med school and residency (at least peds is a short residency if he sticks with that)

    not quite retirement age, but mid-30s, long way off
     
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  22. andfor

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    Paranoid yes, for those who do not do math.:)
     
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    The "another junior" that Kozlov will face is Harrison Adams, an elite junior who is ranked #1120 and gained direct entry into the tournament. He needed no help from the USTA. Then he beat a seed ranked #588 in the first round. Without that upset, Kozlov would be playing a seed right now. So, how did the USTA rig it so that one of these young players would make it to the quarters? Did they force the seed to tank against Adams? Threaten his family?
     
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    6-3, 2-6, 6-2 for Thacher. Now he plays a seed.
     
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    The youngsters, Wiersholm and Kozlov, beat former USC teammates Daniel Nguyen and Michael Grant 6-2, 6-3 in the doubles quarterfinals, after beating the #3 seeds 16-14 in a match tiebreaker in the first round. I guess the USTA arranged for them to play the #3 seeds in the first round for developmental purposes. :)
     
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    Speaking of Harrison, he just beat Ouellette to make the qtrs of the Lexington Challenger. Guessing he's gonna skip college. His recent form also puts him as one of the favorites for K'zoo.
     
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    Christian Harrison has been a pro for 3 years or so. About the same amount of time as his brother if I recall correctly. Just saw where the USTA offered him a WC to Kalamazoo but turned it down.
     
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    Not sure why he'd do that. Im sure he'd get to at least the semis with little trouble. From there, anything can happen. He's not guaranteed a WC in the MD by any means. Maybe qualies he'd have a reasonable certainty of getting one.
     
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    Rising HS frosh and HS soph beating a pretty solid and seasoned team from USC convincing is pretty impressive. I've read a lot about Kozlov over the past year or two, but just figured he would get over-powered in some of these futures/challengers simply due to his size when he would play against solid players 4-6 years older than him.
     
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    Harrison wins his 3rd 3 setter over #6 seed Velotti to get to the semis. He plays Kudla next. All these guys are battling it out for the US Open WC which will be given to the person who's earned the most pts over this 4 Challenger circuit.

    He's definitely earning some attn with his results.
     
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    Bradley Klahn got a win today in the 1st round of the Vancouver Challenger today beating world #208 Michael Yani 4-6 6-0 7-6
     
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    Decatur Illinois Future

    Several former collegians playing well in the Decatur Futures: Kevin King (GT), Sanam Singh (UVA), Artem Ilyushin (Miss State), and Ryan Rowe (ILL) into the 3rd round. Michael Shabaz (UVA), Eric Quigley (Kentucky), Connor Smith (Ohio St), Jason Jung (Michigan), Dennis Novolo (ILL), and Marcelo Arevalo (Tulsa) all played too with Jung and Arevalo going out in the 2nd round.

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    Bradley Klahn knocked out in the 2nd round in Vancouver losing to #179 Sergei Bubka 3-6 6-3 6-4.
     
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    Why turn down a WC to Kzoo? Oh lets see, to get to the semis he has to play 6 useless matches, probably at 8am because thats how it works at stupid USTA junior tournaments. 6 matches against toolbox juniors who qualied out of their lame sectional tournaments. You do realize that he is playing challengers now....even if he has to qualie for the open, its better then wasting a whole week there ******* around with highschool players. After 6 matches playing against superchamps, ur gonna lose some of ur level.

    good choice by him, win some challengers and he will be in the MD soon enough
     
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    Weekend Futures Roundup

    Former Ohio State #2 Steven Moneke won a future in Germany this week winning the final 6-0 6-2. In the Quarters he beat former Auburn Tiger Tim Puetz.

    Former Georgia Tech #1 Guillermo Gomez got beat in the 2nd round of a Spain future.

    Former Virginia #6 Teddy Angelinos lost in the 2nd round of a Lithuanian future.

    Former Mississippi State #1 Ivan Bjelica was the runner up in a Serbian future.

    Former Illinois #2 Ryan Rowe beat former Virginia #3 Sanam Singh in the finals of the Decatur Illinois future. Rowe beat former Virginia #1 Michael Shabaz in the 1st round, current Vanderbilt #2 Gonzales Austin in the 2nd round, and current Illinois #5 Stephen Hoh in the semis. Singh beat current Vanderbilt #1 Ryan Lipman in the 2nd round and former Mississippi State #1 Artem Ilyushin in the Quarters. Former Georgia Tech #1 Kevin King made it to the Quarters before losing 7-6 in the 3rd.

    Former Florida #3 Antoine Benneateau made the Quarters of a British future and former Texas #1 Ed Corrie made it to the 2nd round.
     
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  36. Rob_C

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    Really?? Ask Kudla or Kosakowski how easy it is to earn MD into the Open. IMO, better to play 6 'useless' matches at 8am for a wk then 2 'real' matches to earn a MD WC than depending on an at large WC.

    It is possible he has a guaranteed qualies WC, but I dont see him coming thru qualies this yr.
     
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    Bradley Klahn and Robert Farah will meet in the quarterfinals at the Aptos Challenger. Klahn beat Igor Andreev and Matt Reid to get there and Farah beat Roman Borvanov and Amir Wintraub.

    Steve Johnson has made the quarterfinals as well after getting a 6-4 ret. win today over Dmitry Tursunov.

    Aptos Draw
     
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    Just commenting about the time, most futures/challengers start at 8 or 9 am, just saying...
     
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    Steve Johnson into the semis at Aptos with a 6-3 6-4 win over Rik De Voest. Next up is #172 Jan Hernych of the Czech Republic.

    Robert Farah knocked off Bradley Klahn 6-4 7-5 and will meet the Michael McClune/Ilija Bozoljac winner.

    Aptos Draw
     
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    Kentucky Wildcat graduate Eric Quigley into the finals of the Edwardsville Illinois Future where he'll meet #459 Ante Pavis of Croatia

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    Both Steve Johnson and Robert Farah win their semifinal matches and will meet tomorrow in an all Trojan final.

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    Interesting. Every player that knocked off a seed in this draw, bowed out the next round. Except Quigley.
     
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    Live Video of Johnson/Farah match. Just started

    Update: Stevie J wins easily 6-3 6-3. Farah looked downright atrocious.
     
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    Johnson nearly doubles his point total with the 100 he picked up today winning Aptos. He'll move up to around #233 in the new rankings.
     
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    yea its too bad. farah looked good in the semis
     
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    Jason Jung doing well. Up to the 600's
     
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    Doumbia qualifies for Polish future. Will get #1 seed in first round player ranked 277
     
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    Big time win for Kosakowski in US Open qualies. Beat #82 Bedene in a 3rd set breaker
     
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    US Open - Main Draw

    Recent College Players:
    Steve Johnson will face former Illini Rajeev Ram.
    Bradley Klahn will face Jurgen Melzer
    Rhyne Williams will face Andy Roddick.

    College Players from 5+ years ago:
    John Isner (UGA) vs. Xavier Malisse
    Kevin Anderson (Illini) vs. David Ferrer
    Somdev Devvarman (UVA) vs Ruben Ramirez-Hidalgo
    Jesse Levine (Florida) vs Alexandr Dolgopolov
    Benjamin Becker (Baylor) vs Ryan Harrison
    James Blake (Harvard) vs Lukas Lacko
    Bobby Reynollds (Vandy) vs. Tim Smyczek
     
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    Klahn (Stanford) and Johnson (USC) win their 1st round match at the US Open!
    Burdette (Stanford) is in the 3rd round in the women's draw. Great wins for all these recent grads!
     

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