Recent footage of Connors' hitting

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  1. Moose Malloy

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    Still hits out front more than any other; and still using that solid throat racquet.
     
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    Purple courts... must've been in Miami!
     
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    3.0 player at best.
     
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    You're kidding me right?
     
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    it's hard to say how well Jimmy could play from watching that clip because his partner gave him very easy balls: low speed balls and they all landed in the middle of the court.
     
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    No. Why? You disagree?
     
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    You're on drugs if you think Connors is a 3.0 player. I'll bet he could still be competitive on the seniors tour. Look at his footwork.
     
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    ^^^ OK, maybe I was being a bit harsh. Would you agree with 3.5?
     
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    Did you notice all three balls were on his side when he went up to the net? Obviously inconsistent. I gotta back Drak up here: 3.0. ;) CC
     
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    ^^^Thanks CC! I was hoping someone who pays attention to detail, with a keen eye such as yourself, would chime in here and back me up. :)
     
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    hes still using the prince mono
     
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    Only if you'll back off your claim of being a 4.5 and admit you're a 1.5. I saw your vids. Connors would smoke you without breaking a sweat
     
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    Well, obviously he's not in playing shape, but if he were to be, and he mentally prepared himself for competitive play... 5.5 - 6.0
     
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    Come on Drak, give Connors an audience and he'd smoke your ***...
     
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    In any event, Connors' movement looked really good. He is light on his feet and looked like he was really able to move well.
     
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    He does look darn good. Maybe he is prepping himself for another Battle of the Sexes statement against womens tennis, ala Bobby Riggs. :) jk
     
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    OK, I admit it. I am a 1.5.

    So we are in agreement then>>>>>>. He is a 3.5.
     
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    Of course he would smoke me>>>. He is a 3.5 and I am a 1.5
     
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  21. PBODY99

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    He is only 54 & 1/2 in this video, Sept birthday you know. :)
    There is a reason a reason beyond pain management we get our joints replaced. You can get most of your former footwork back.
    The Mono is another frame that only Jimmy could play with at the highest level.
     
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    It is interesting watching that video.

    If someone posted that video without telling us who that was and all you saw was the guy hitting and the court, I'll bet he would get tourn apart here. He really would be called a 3.0 and 3.5 judged purely on his mechanics.

    Goes to show you how little it means to have pretty strokes... Got to have results!

    Thanks for posting those.
     
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    Agreed, which is why I said 3.0 player at best. I can't believe some people took me serious. LOL
     
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    OMG a ha a ha ha ha
     
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    The problem with that point is.. That anyone that is older than 30 will know strait away that the guy in that video is Conners, purely just because of the way he hits the ball..

    Its just a shame that today we are forced to watch the bashers that all look the same.. Even if you go back say 10 years.. You could always tell the players by their individual style.. Now, its like ho hum, another baseliner......
     
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    Lol you can hear Nadal grunt in the background.
     
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    can someone please explain me that ranking thing in the US???
    what's a beginner and what's a pro :confused:
     
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    0.0 N/A

    1.0 No playing experience.

    1.5Player has limited playing experience and is working primarily on getting the ball into play.

    2.0Player needs on-court experience and has obvious stroke weaknesses. Player is familiar with basic positions for singles and doubles play.

    2.5Player has weak court coverage and is still learning to judge where the ball is going. Player can sustain a short rally of slow pace with other players of the simalar ability.

    3.0Player is fairly consistent when hitting medium paced shots, but is not comfortable with all strokes. Player lacks execution when trying for directional control, depth, or power. Most common doubles formation is one-up, one-back.

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    Thanks a lot gugafan!
     
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    See, this where I have trouble with this.. If I was to go by these levels, then I definately was a 6. But because I gave up for so long, does that still make me a six?. I understand I dont get the practice I need to anymore, and I dont attend any institutions or play any tournaments anymore. But I still know how to hit a tennis ball like I used to.. So where does that put me now that I am a once a week player? To me, tennis is riding a bike. You never forget, but do admit that my intensity is now lower...
     
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    Connors never was one to waste a lot of effort on the court, and he still looks much the same.

    I would think that players of Connors' era would tend to hold up a tad better than some of today's players will when they reach their 50's. Not saying that players were better then, but I have a hard time envisioning Nadal hitting his forehand the way he does now when he's 55.
     
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    Yeah, I'm with you drak.
    It could be a slugfest against wyutani, for example!
    The battles of the styles!

    Connors (precision and power baselining) against Wyutani (every style existing, non existing, and to-exist-in-the-future). He's an "ultra aggressive style" player now! :D
     
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  33. Moose Malloy

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    Its interesting that in tennis you can rate former pros by how they look at 55. I wonder if Dr J can still dunk or play basketball reasonably well. If not, I doubt my local high school b'ball team would dare to compare themselves to him, or think that they are 'better' in some way.
     
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    Connors looks great.. If he were not Connors I would still say Hey that Guy plays great..He is 55 and his Footwork is still there,and those signature shots still look very familiar.
     
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    a prince mono...
     
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    ^^^ Thanks ericsson. I suspected that. Personally, I thought that was one of the worst gimmick technology from Prince (My bad for being judgmental having not playing with this racket before). That's why it surprises me when I see Connors using this racket and some coaches too. I must be missing something...
     
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    it looks kinda strange, i really can't imagine it plays very solid or stable...
     
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    Sad. But true. People would rag on his straight arms and his pendulum preparation, and how inefficient it is. And people would wonder why a 50something is using two hands for a backhand.
    "Chump." "3.0 strokes with 5.0 footwork." Probably "no serve" (which is sorta of true).

    Then someone would point out that it's Jimmy Connors, and that person would condescendingly provide a link to prove it.

    Then someone would say, "pwned". "GeniOUS" (sic), or "legend".
    Then two or three guys would argue over the intricacies of his racquet's swingweight, his string set-up and his lead tape configuration.

    Okay mister South Flaarida hotshot, don't get it? Sarcasm will not be tolerated here.
     
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    LOL. i have never seen you play but you got a pretty good serve....for a 1.5;)
     
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    I just got mine from UPS. Will test it out tomorrow . Don't know how well it will hit but this racquet looks mighty cool . I think it's the coolest looking racquet that i have :D

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    I have owned the Prince Mono before and it does not have alot of power at all! Kind of light; maybe 10 ozs. It was not a racket that I became accustom to use and keep. Never figure out how Jimmy turned to this racket after using the T2000 most of his career. It has like a 95 or 98 sq. in head size. It like the complete opposite of the T2000!
     
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    you are right, it feels so light !
    I have not used it yet, I feared I might scratch it :)
     
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    I watched Connors play his last QF match, in S.F. right before he retired. Agassi played the next match. Connors was a stud with his returns. Agassi, though in his prime, did not stand above him that night.
     
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    I still use the Mono---it is 11.8 oz----Jimmy also used a leather grip and some lead tape at the top of the hoop on this racquet. (PUTs it over 12 oz)

    He also strung it very loosely with gut----@ 43 -45 lbs---try that congiuration if you like to hit the ball deep and flat---its Great!

    Got all of this info from Jimmy's assistant at a Senior event and also was confirmed by the stringer.
     
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    The vid showed the classic Connors footwork, mvmt, energy, and 2handed backhand !
    And he was hitting with the prince mono racket. There was no sign of hip replacement. Thanks for posting this video, those glimpses still show world class form
     
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    he's still awesome with his footwork and the timing.. Looks how he time the ball so up front and his eyes still focus on it.. After a few days, he would kill any 5.0+ player anytime.. I've seen some other pro player haven't play for years came out like Jim Grabb and kill the national Davis Cup junior player.... Timing is everything in this sport
     
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    Better than anyone else at that age. Agassi's game lends itself to the newer racquets better than Connors' does, which is why he seemed to hit the ball better and better throughout the years. In his retirement he's still better off both wings than anyone on tour, he just can't cover the court anymore.
     
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    Wow that sure is loose. I strung it at 60 lbs and it feels great for my playing style. It has more power than I thought considering how light it is. Some people on the board commented that the racquet did not feel solid but I found it to be just as solid as the frames with the conventional design.
     
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  50. Mick

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    This was how Jimmy Connors played 31 years ago:

    1976 US Open Final
     
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