RED ALERT - World Class Scammer is here!

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  1. BobFL

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    People,

    I received an email from a very serious scammer. He is all over Internet. Many countries and all kind of forums. Here is what I know so far:

    The names he uses:

    VITALISE NATHAN
    RAY MORGAN
    WISDOM AHMED

    Emails:

    engvitalisenath@gmail.com
    wisah1986@gmail.com

    Phone#: +447024020824

    He is also:

    NATION WIDE BANK
    DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS
    NATIONWIDE BANK PLC NATIONWIDE BANK PLC
    23 CONWAY ROAD 23 CONWAY ROAD
    COLWYN BAY LL29 7ABE COLWYN BAY LL29 7ABE
    E-MAIL:bartostevepaydesk@gmail.com E-MAIL: bartostevepaydesk@gmail.com
    INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS SECTION INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS SECTION

    This is really serious. Do not underestimate this guy and/or scheme.

    NEVER SEND YOUR MONEY VIA WESTERN UNION!!!

    Bob
     
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  2. BobFL

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    Typical email would look like this:

    Hello SIR/MADAM

    i saw your classified ads on the internet i have the items you so
    requested for sale.Are you still very INTERESTED in the need to
    purchase ?contact me SO WE CAN DO BUSINESS

    RAY MORGAN
    winnersales2@gmail.com
    Manchester UK
    +447024020824
     
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  3. Larrysümmers

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    I'll see if I still have the email but I got one too!!!
     
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  4. Liem

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    he almost got me today...I was on the page to send him $$$ via western union and figure i'd do a search for his email and this came up. Thanks OP you just saved me $110!!!
     
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  5. Larrysümmers

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    Hello!!!!

    i have the item you are requesting to purchase

    email me for details

    regards
    +447024020824
    Ahmed W.
    london

    this was my first messege in the spam mail, i went there looking for an email i got awhile ago. ironic
     
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  6. Applesauceman

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    I received the same email (see below)

    Hello!!!!

    i have the item you are requesting to purchase

    email me for details

    regards
    +447024020824
    Ahmed W.
    london

    The email address (wisah1986@gmail.com) comes up as Wisdom Ahmed.

    I immediately figured that this was a scammer or spammer.
     
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  7. Fearsome Forehand

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    Thanks for the heads up.

    Pretty typical scam these days. He sends out a million emails via a spam program and 10+ doofi (plural of doofus) reply. It only takes a few idiots to make it worth the scammer's while.

    I'm amazed how naive some people are.
     
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  8. Rockitdog

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    I am amzaed that people even look twice at these types of emails...
     
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  9. Liem

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    well I almost fell for it because he emailed me right after I posted a WTB item and he says he has the item for sale.
     
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  10. Larrysümmers

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    was it your spam mail or your regular inbox
     
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  11. Liem

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    Regular inbox he replied to my post on the wanted section of the forums.
     
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  12. rodrigoamaral

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    Bob, Thanks for the heads up!!
     
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  13. tennis005

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    I also got something similar a few days ago. It was 3 emails for my most recent classifieds stating. The item you want is available. Contact me.
     
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  14. BobFL

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    You are all very welcome!!!

    Imho, this is not only about being naive. It is also about being inexperienced. This scammer responded promptly and he sounded very nice. God knows how many people logged in to their WU accounts :(
     
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  15. Kot_Bigemot

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    Thank you for the post Bob.
    But once i hear Western Union, even if the deal super sweet, i walk away. Regardless of who offers it and what is being offered.
    Also, the sweeter the deal, the more cautious i get. That is just a rule of thumb.
    Where i come from, people have an old saying - "Free cheese is only in a mouse trap."
     
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  16. Fearsome Forehand

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    This got stickied??? :shock:

    Hey, can we please get stickies for the ubiquitous Nigerian lottery email scams and confidence men trying to sell unsuspecting tourists the Brooklyn Bridge?

    How about a sticky about the hazards of running with scissors? :)

    Maybe 10 or 15 years ago when the internet was relatively new, I could see how someone could get duped by one of these scamming jerks. But, unless one has been living in a cave five miles beneath the earth's surface, I don't see how it is possible to get taken by one of these scams. One would have to be pretty dim. This wasn't even a good scam, the email is vague referring to items and the wording is strange as if English isn't the email composer's first language.

    Please tell me you are kidding. You would actually wire money to someone you don't know? That is scary stuff. Are you allowed to cross the street all by yourself?

    If this guy takes anyone here for a single dime, that user will have to start The Official Too Stupid to Live Club. :)
     
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  17. sruckauf

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    FF, thanks for saying what I've been thinking all along. I've been reading this thing, thinking... sticky?!? Is it April Fool's Day?!?
     
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  18. Fearsome Forehand

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    For scammers, every day is April Fools Day.

    Sorry, I was being a smart arse before as I am often want to do. And I apologize profusely if I have offended anyone.

    I guess this thread was stickied because some people with want ads on TW were being contacted by this guy's software (if he uses software.) Why am I thinking he is probably a manual spammer? What he lacks in wit, he makes up for in ambition.

    By the way, sruckauf, I have that unspecified item you have been requesting to purchase. Are you still seriously needing to purchase the unspecified item because if you are, I have the unspecified item in my possession and I am seriously desiring to do business with you. Wire me $300 immediately and I will send to you the unspecified item you are so seriously requesting to purchase.

    Thank you,
    Mr. Fearsome Forehand
    Executive President for Sales of Unspecified Items That Are Seriously Requested
    and Director of Want Ad Responses to Far Off Lands
    United Bank of Kenya
     
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  19. Thepowerofchoice

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    I received the same email but under different name (see below)


    THE PART YOU REQUIRE ARE AVAILABLE ,IF STILL INTERESTED IN
    PURCHASING.GET BACK TO ME ASAP.


    CLARK LAWRENCE
    LONDON UK
    +447024020824

    Here is the email
    lawrence clark" <clark.lawrence259@gmail.com

    Great work OP. Thanks
     
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  20. Cooper_Tecnifibre4

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    OMG I GOT CLARK LAWRENCE TOO!!!
     
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  21. Cooper_Tecnifibre4

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    hahahah i just called clark lawrence the scammer who is actually indian and i went off at him swearing saying you'r a sccammer and he was just saying "why you say this"?? hahah i hate scammers. everybody call his number and tell him you've been found here is hes number\
    CLARK LAWRENCE
    LONDON UK
    +447024020824
     
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  22. Cooper_Tecnifibre4

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  23. Fearsome Forehand

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    Regarding Western Union usage, the downside primarily seems tied to sending funds via that service, not receiving them. I can't see a downside of using WU as a means of receiving cash payment picked up at a local WU agent.. Might be better as a seller than PP in that the buyer/sender pays the fees, not the recipient/seller. Seller gets cash so no PP chargeback risk nonsense.

    However, be extremely careful to whom you give your bank account info. Better to have cash sent to a local Western Union agent that you can pick up as opposed to giving your unencrypted bank info out to a stranger (which you shouldn't do unless it is an account that you keep virtually empty). I gave an account number out once for a wire transfer on a Rolex sale but the buyer had impeccable references as a Rolex collector. Not sure I would ever do that again though. (And I also had a guy insist on sending me hundreds in cash for rackets via carrier once. I wouldn't recommend that practice either.)

    Bottom line: Never wire money to someone you don't know or trust 100%. However, if someone is willing to wire you cash for pick up at a WU agency based on your stellar reputation as a seller, no problem.

    These are the most common WU scams:

    http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?method=load&pagename=fraudIndex

    Common sense stuff, but a good reminder:

    http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?method=load&pagename=fraudTips

    This also points out why it is a very bad idea to post your email address within your classified ad. By doing so, you are inviting spam and phishing/fraud. Don't post your email address; instead, make the other party contact you through the TW system. Just make sure you have enabled messaging through TW.
     
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  24. bened

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    After calling Wisdom Ahmed on being a scammer requesting WU and no paypal acct. He said, "I do not understand my friend."

    Mr. Ahmed may be a lot of things but wise isn't one of them.
     
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  25. Fedace

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    How do these scam artist stay in business and in the internet without someone taking them down or authorities arresting them ???:confused:
     
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  26. Fedace

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    right the Scam artists always insist on Western Union,,,,won't do the Paypal for some reason....
     
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  27. Kot_Bigemot

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    Hey guys.
    Here is the email i got this morning. I had an add about a frame i am looking for and this fellow replied to me with this:


    <shtiblet@gmail.com>
    Default WTB/WTT: Boris Becker London
    ishmeal Adu <ishadu111@gmail.com> To: shtiblet@gmail.com
    Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:14 AM
    --GOOD DAY/
    I SAW YOUR ADS YOU REQUESTED AN ITEM FOR PURCHASE I HAVE THE ITEM YOU REQUIRE.EMAIL ME FOR MORE INFORMATION
    ISHMEAL ADU MANCHESTER(UK) +447024020824


    So, i guess this is the new name he is using. I replied asking about price and payment method. I will keep you guys posted about new details.
     
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  28. bishi

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    show details 11:14 AM (25 minutes ago)

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    GOOD DAY/

    I SAW YOUR ADS YOU REQUESTED AN ITEM FOR PURCHASE
    I HAVE THE ITEM YOU REQUIRE.EMAIL ME FOR MORE INFORMATION

    ISHMEAL ADU
    MANCHESTER(UK)
    +447024020824
     
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  29. JoelDali

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    Bob - thanks so much.

    I was actually about to send this same guy a check because he had part time home mailing positions that he claimed paid very well in an email to my home email account.

    Being that I need part time work and was intrigued, I applied, and eventually got accepted for PT work in his organization.

    Had it not been for your warning I may have lost $150 and a lot of time.

    What you are doing here is a great service, thank you!
     
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  30. plumcrazy

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    Just got the same email. I posted a want ad here for a head tennis bag.
     
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  31. Fearsome Forehand

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    FYI: Those work at home deals are almost always scams. NEVER send money for training materials, etc tied to these sorts of work at home deals. Too good to be true for a reason. Legitimate employers aren't going to ask you to send them money.

    Just like confidence men, scammers live off the naive and the desperate. I am always amazed that people get taken in by this stuff.
     
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  32. Fearsome Forehand

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    I'll say this one last time, don't post your email addy within your ad. Instead, enable messaging/emails within your User CP.

    There are programs that hunt out email addresses from websites and nigerians who manually go to web sites searching for email addresses.
    Either way, you are inviting spam and phishing by posting your email address online.
     
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  33. Barricade V

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    Who didn't he email? I got one too
     
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  34. plumcrazy

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    Lesson learned! Thanks for the info.
     
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    :lol: Con - way :lol:
     
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  36. joe sch

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    All, I was also recently frauded by aka Clark Lawrence

    He swindled me out of approx $200 usd via WU and then gave me this story that the rackets were being heldup at customs and he needed another $200 tax to have them released

    As OP indicates, this person is very professional ... has fake references that vouce for him and even has an elaborate currier website that takes his fake tracking numbers to look like he actually sent something and it is being held up for tax.
    The work that these pro scammers now do to swindle buyers out of $$$ is really extensive !

    Avoid these emails, all used by this scammer:

    clark.lawrence259@gmail.com
    Dr. terry Allan <dr.terryallan@yahoo.com>
    HAPPY CARSON <carsonhapy@gmail.com>

    inc.fedex@fedexcourierexpress-plc.co.cc
    Information Department:customer.care@fedexcourierexpress-plc.co.cc

    Avoid this website used by this scammer:

    Phone Number : +447 024 023 904

    http://www.fedexcourierexpressplc.co.cc./


    Since this is international wire fraud there should be some way to get him arrested ? Wonder what authorities should be notified ?

    Appreciate any help
     
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  37. Nexus

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    If anyone is keeping up with this, I got two this morning via different names. Here they are:
    I am into sale of rackets of diffrerent kinds in good and new
    condition for sale.my prices are affordable and negotiable. i have the items you are requesting to purchase If interested kindly give me a mail...I will be waiting.
    Whats your phone # ?
    maurice longshank
    32 York street W1U 6PZ United Kingdom
    mslong259@gmail.com
    +447024020824

    And here is the second one...
    I am into sale of rackets of diffrerent kinds in good and new condition for sale.my prices are affordable and negotiable. i have the item you are requesting to purchase, If interested kindly give me a mail...I will be waiting.
    Whats your phone # ?

    Alvin Martins
    32 York street W1U 6PZ United Kingdom
    m.alvin@blumail.org
    +447024020824

    ---------
    Anyway, the dude spelled different wrong and my spam box caught one of them. Anyway, now you guys know two more names and another scheme.
     
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  38. flashfire276

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    I just got that email!! Thanks for the heads up man!
     
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  39. flashfire276

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    Check that out! The phone number is how you spot it! But mine was sent under the name Alvin Martins. Here's the exact message.

    I am into sale of spare parts of diffrerent kinds in good and new condition for sale.my prices are affordable and negotiable. i have the parts you are requesting to purchase, If interested kindly give me a mail...I will be waiting.
    Whats your phone # ?

    Alvin Martins
    32 York street W1U 6PZ United Kingdom
    m.alvin@blumail.org
    +447024020824
     
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  40. flashfire276

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    I have to agree with you Fedace.
    Can't you file a claim to the FTC website for scammers and frauds? I remember a little video showing us how to do it on Craig's List.
     
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  41. NetMuncher

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    I just received one of the emails in question:

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    I am into sale of Rackets of diffrerent kinds in good and new condition my prices are affordable and negotiable.i have the requested item you are requesting to purchase, If interested kindly give me a mail...I will be waiting.
    Whats your phone # ?

    Alvin Martins
    32 York street W1U 6PZ United Kingdom
    m.alvin@blumail.org
     
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  42. MichaelChang

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    You gonna be kidding. Can't believe a senior member like you would fall for this kind of scam. Sorry for your loss.
     
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  43. JT_2eighty

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    Thank you for the hilarious laugh you gave me today. This is priceless.
     
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  44. Pinkskunk

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    Correct me if i am wrong but isn't WU a very bad way of doing business? Isn't Paypal the best in it's class?

    Like i said, please correct me if i am wrong.
     
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  45. Kot_Bigemot

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    You ARE wrong.
     
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  46. Pinkskunk

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    so according to Fearsome Forehand, with PP as a seller after you got your money they can actually charge back and you can still lose money? in that case what about millions of transactions on the Bay that conducted via PP? now i am freaking nervous guys.
     
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  47. SteveI

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    Yes...The buyer has all the clout with PayPal. PP can freeze not only your PayPal account but your attached checking/savings account. The bay is all about protecting the buyer these days. You can't even leave Bad Feedback for a buyer.. Am I not right? You can roast the Seller to be sure. There is limited protection from PayPal when you are outside the The Bay.
     
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  48. forthegame

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    Not totally true. PayPal also screws buyers. I was done over BIGTIME by PayPal/e-Bay.

    Seller got away scotfree, left me with a duff item and de-registered from both PayPal and e-Bay stat!

    I wish there was a credible alternative but there isn't. They keep bleating on about buyer protection but when push comes to shove, they can be ****e!
     
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  49. Pinkskunk

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    well as i learnt today you CAN NOT leave a Negative feedback about a buyer. The Feedback options was:

    1) Positive
    2) Leave feedback later

    i mean, WTF??? what kind of feedback option is that??? might as well do the feedback for the seller themselves and not bother us doing it for them! that is the most retarded feedback option available to mankind.

    when i am done with my inventory, i am not doing business on that site again.
     
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  50. federer_fan90

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    Hi, I just received this e-mail:

    Requested parts/item still available and in excellent condition. Please get back to me if still interested in them.

    Cheers,
    Alexander Cole.
    (44) 702 406 8408

    Scammer me thinks! Thanks for the heads up :D
     
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