Reed: True number one Murray will win US Open

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  1. kevvycore

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    that article was something. i guess when nadal beat fed at AO murray also beat him. kind of weird. i guess he forgot about the USO final that just happened where fed beat up on murray.
    everyone seems to forget fed beat up on murray at the USO final but remember fed losing at an exo, or indian wells, or something that will be lost with time.
     
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  2. FedNad316

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    Thats called Selective Amnesia......something the media & tennis gurus who write biased articles excel in:):twisted:
     
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  3. kinski76

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    Here's another oldie, but goodie from the grand tennis connoisseur known by the name of Simon Reed:


    Bandwagoning, much? Somebody on another board referred to Mr. Reed as the "tennis commentators' answer to Ed Wood." I thought that was a pretty apt description. :cool:
     
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  4. veroniquem

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    Great post. I feel the same way for the same reason!
     
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  5. bruce38

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    You mean "injury" ;)
     
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  6. BreakPoint

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    Um...you do realize that Nadal never would have been #1 at all if Federer had never gotten mono and injured his back, right? Now that Federer is finally healthy again, Nadal won't be getting back to #1 anytime soon.
     
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  7. yung goon

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    The guy is right though. Fed would still be 2 if not for nadals knees
     
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  8. BreakPoint

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    And Nadal would have still been #2 if not for Federer's mono (which caused him not to win anything until the US Open).

    And, no, he's not right. If Nadal lost before the Wimbledon semis (which was likely) and Federer won Wimbledon, Federer would have been #1 anyway.
     
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  9. Cesc Fabregas

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    If Nadal was healthy at Wimbledon he would have streamrolled through the draw.
     
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  10. BreakPoint

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    You mean like the way he's "steamrolling" his way through the draws at Montreal and Cincinnati? :oops:
     
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  11. Cesc Fabregas

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    No. Like how he streamrolled through last years Wimbledon and beat Mr Federer in the final. :oops:
     
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  12. jelle v

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    Don't worry.. If Nadal is the true #1 like you say he is, he will be back at #1 in not time, no?
     
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  13. BreakPoint

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    Thanks for making my point. Federer had mono and the after-effects of mono for most of 2008, up until the US Open. If he never got mono, no way, and I mean NO WAY, does Nadal EVER beat Federer at Wimbledon. That would be like Agassi beating Sampras at Wimbledon. Never happened.
     
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  14. Cesc Fabregas

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    Nadal should have beaten Federer in the 07 final if he didn't bust his knee at the end of the 4th set, on top of that Nadal had 4 break points at the start of the 5th. That blows up theory out of the water.
     
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  15. joeri888

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    The true number 1 is the 1 on top, but I don't care about that. The fact that a respected journalist calls a major given to Roger Federer however, is in my opinion a total clown at best.
     
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  16. tintin

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    Reed needs to go back to his dealer and ask for a refund for whatever the hell is he is smoking or was smoking when he wrote that post:roll::lol:

    i mean to call Murray the "true number one" would be an insult to even Dinara Safina who made 2 slam final(Australia and Paris) and another slam semis at Wimbledon and her 2 MS compared to a 4th round in Australia;Quarters or 4th round in Paris and 1 semis for Murray at Wimbledon

    I'm just saying if we want to bash the wta and the ranking system the same would have to be said about the atp and that punk Murray ascending to world # 2 in the absence of Nadal;due to injuy;-)
     
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  17. フェデラー

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    i think the numbers 6-2 7-6, with no break chances may disagree with this reed character.
     
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  18. DarthMaul

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    According to your logic, the true #1 of 2008 was Federer as he lost it through illness rather than Nadal outperforming him to take it.
    At least Federer had the guts to show up to those tournaments rather than chickening out and withdraw from them.
     
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  19. BreakPoint

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    Um...and how many break points did Federer have against Nadal in the '08 Wimbledon final? The '09 Australian Open final? How about the '06 and '07 French Open finals?

    Break points mean nothing unless you can covert them. Having break points don't win you the match. Winning match point wins you the match.
     
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  20. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    Agreed; who would be in such denial to doubt Federer's FO/W slam performances this year already set him far and above Nadal, Djokovic and Murray?
     
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  21. l_gonzalez

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    ha ha, i used to like simon reed but he's got a serious case of Brit-blindness.

    I just love people who write Federer off, time after time they're proven wrong. I wonder if he still feels the same way after Fed's last 2 matches....

    The world number 1 is the man at the top of the rankings, always has and always has been. no such thing as a true world number one.

    Best form on north american hardcourts? yeah, you can give him that since he has had such great success since Cincy last year, but Murray still hasn't produced the goods at a slam and until he does, there is no way he can be considered a favourite when there are other players who have significantly more pedigree and experience at Slam level, notably Federer and Nadal.

    i'm taking an objective view here, if I wanted to bash his style of play I could, but there's no need to do that, the facts speak for themselves. 7 best of 5 set matches is as they say, a different animal, and one that Murray has yet to tame.
     
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  22. flying24

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    Very well said.
     
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  23. coloskier

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    Unfortunately, that was last year, which means absolutely nothing now.
     
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    "Oh, the humanity!"
     
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  25. IvanAndreevich

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    This article is retarded. Way to keep the pressure on Murray to a minimum.
     
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  26. batz

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    As I said when this was first posted, Reed is a bawbag and in no way representative of the majority British media view of Murray.
     
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  27. Olorin

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    FAIL. FAIL. FAIL.

    When you can't fail anymore, just add some face palm to make things worse.

    FAIL.
     
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  28. joeri888

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    This article was absolutely terrible to begin with. There's no argumentation whatsoever. he just wants MUrray to win so badly he's going to argue that Murray is the favourite no matter what. I feel bad for some good Murray fans which are def. around, but I don't feel bad for British media people like Simon Reed. He deserves this and I hope he comes up with something better next time.
     
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  29. Sentinel

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    A lot of experts here did think Murray would win. So u can't blame someone who merely earns his bread writing articles on tennis.
     
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  30. joeri888

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    I don't blame him for thinking Murray would win. I blame him for not coming up with any arguments, and also saying Murray is the real no. 1, which is absolute bogus, AND very very disrespectful to the current world no. 1.

    His argumentation is just lacking. First he says that federer has become a Slam monster that only performs in Slams, then he can't look past him losing to Tsonga in a MS event:? He doesn't waste ONE word on Murray's disappointing Slam season before this tournament. This was just no journalism. It was wild guessing and repeating that Murray is his pick, with absolutely no serious arguments to back that up. If he wants to go with Murray, fine.. but from a journalist I expect reasons why Federer won't do as well as he's done in Slams this year, why Murray will do better than he's done, while he WILL beat Roddick this time around and perhaps even something about while MUrray's style suits the surface.

    It's just a bad article
     
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  31. flyinghippos101

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    Can you say...SUPER LAWL
     
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  32. IvanAndreevich

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    But aside from that, he actually says Federer was HANDED his Wimbledon and FO titles. LMAO? :confused:
     
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  33. Sentinel

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    My remark wasn;t aimed at you, and it was a sarcastic one anyway.

    I read it a while back, can't recall there were some awful articles linked here, like the Bodo ones.
     
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  34. Sentinel

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    OMG, a lot of folks on this forum would agree.

    I guess everyone in the history of sport was handed his titles because some contender or other must have been injured, sick, tired or on the other side of the draw. Anyway, its sad to see that people writing articles too (not just posters here) are more fans of a player, than fans of the sport.
     
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  35. CaptainInsano

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    Says it all.

    The fact that Roger also won at least one Slam EVERY FREAKIN YEAR is not even part of the equation.
     
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  36. taballi

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    im just tired of how murray is the favorite to win every slam now... i mean honestly how many times does he have to underperform to convince the oddsmakers that he isnt a shoe in................
     
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  37. P_Agony

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    And the same goes for Roland Garros with Nadal, Fed beat the guy who beat Nadal.
     
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  38. slicefox

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    i love when threads like this are bumped to make fun of BS predictions
     
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