Replacing Grip Pallets

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  1. NotSoSuper

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    Hey guys, im thinking about replacing the grip pallets on my 4 Babolat Pure Controls, swirly edition, to make them a 1/4 from a 3/8 if that is possible?

    I was planning on just taking them down to the nearest pro shop and seeing what they can do, but i thought there might be a cheaper 'do it yourself option'?

    THanks
     
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  2. bcart1991

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    Babolats don't have replaceable pallets. Shaving it down (very carefully) is an option, but getting frames with the proper grip sizes is the better option.
     
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  3. esgee48

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    Can't replace pallets, so try thicker replacement grip and/or OG; or try the heat shrink sleeve. Both will make the balance more HL.
     
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  4. McLovin

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    The 'swirly' Pure Control is over 10 years old. It's hard enough to find them, let alone ones w/ the desired grip size.

    Actually, NotSoSuper is trying to go down from a 3 to a 2, not up.

    The best bet is to take the grip off, then apply 2 overgrips. You may want to weigh & balance the racquets before removing the grip, then adding some lead under the 1st overwrap to get it back to normal.

    Note that the grip will likely feel odd as it's not nearly as cushioned this way, but short of sending it off to **** or P1, it's your best option, especially since it is reversible.
     
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  5. JackB1

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    Bablot pallets are not replaceable. Best bet is to change the origonal grip to a very thin one, like Prince ResiPro or Bablalot Skin Feel. Don't use an overgrip or use a very thin one. Wilson has one now that is super thin.
     
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  6. eman resu

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    It can be done. But it will take lots of work. I've done it to Wilson and Prince racquets, and someone posted a thread of a pure drive and/or prokennex without the "pallets", so it's up to you. However, since there are no pallets available for babolat racquets you would have to remove pallets from 2 racquets and switch them. Or insert head ones, but it woudn't fit perfectly.

    In the end, it might not work and, it might not pay off and it might not make sense.
     
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  7. ChicagoJack

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    Yeah, it can be done. Hankenstein did this a while back. Yes, it is a huge pain in the buttocks, but like most things in life, if you have the time and determination it can be accomplished. You'd have to chisel away the current foam down to the hairpin, then retro fit Volkl BioSensor pallets. See the photos from the original project thread. There are many more photos, and step by step instructions in the provided link.


    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=7064341#post7064341

    -Jack

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  8. eman resu

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    If you're skilled and patient, you can remove the "pallets" intact, that is, you can have actual pallets in the end.
     
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  9. PrinceMoron

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    You can pay someone to make a pallet for your hand, but unless it is stringone etc it is likely to be a disaster. And expensive.
     
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  10. ChicagoJack

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    A few more photos, pretty decent results...

     
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  11. ChicagoJack

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    Perhaps you are meaning to say Priority One?
     
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    Yeah, P1 may charge a bundle. Don't you have a local good stringer?
     
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  13. NotSoSuper

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    Thanks for the responses guys!

    I do have a good local shop, but i was checking to see if it were even possible to replace the pallets since they are not 'replaceable'

    I see in that thread above that he takes the foam off, but how does he put pallets from another racket on the Pure Drive and make them fit???
     
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  14. ChicagoJack

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    Uhm, yeah... your local stringer will most likely look at you like you have three eyeballs when you tell him what you want to do. A few might be willing to change out a head or volkl pallet, that's pretty common. But chiseling off foam pallets is uncharted territory for most pro shops.

    Check the photos my reply #10. Once the foam is off, the new pallet goes on with double sided tape just like normal. In this case the Volkl pallet was used because its a bit bigger than HEAD pallets which means you don't have to shave it down where the seams meet.

    By the way, I think the first thing you ought to try is JackB1's suggestion of going with a super thin replacement grip. That might get you there a whole lot easier. I have collected the specs (mass and thickness) for over a hundred grips and over grips here.

    I recco you zero in on the following skinnies below. FYI the stock Babolat syntec pro is 1.90 mm.

    Thin Replacement Grips
    0.80mm ... Kimony Techni Leather
    1.25mm ... **** Synthetic Leather
    1.50mm ... Tourna Pro Tour
    1.50mm ... Prince ResiThin
    1.50mm ... **** Cushion Perforated
    1.55mm ... Babolat Skin Feel

    Thin Overgrips
    0.33mm ... Kimony High Soft EX Ultra Thin
    0.38mm ... Kirschbaum Touch It Ultra Thin
    0.40mm ... Babolat VS Original
    0.40mm ... Gamma Grip 2
    0.45mm ... Head Pro
    0.45mm ... Pacific Grip-A-Round

    -Jack
     
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  15. Chotobaka

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    Raquetmaxx is just as capable and has real world prices for their services.
     
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  16. NotSoSuper

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    Are Head and Volkl the only options?
     
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  17. Chotobaka

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    double post
     
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  18. Chotobaka

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    So much easier and cost effective to just flip this racquet and get another in your preferred size. I've seen a lot of these projects go so wrong.
     
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  19. McLovin

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    Have you ever tried to find a Pure Control Swirly? The frame is over 10 years old (usually referred to as Pure Control 2001), and is very rare on the big auction site. He might get lucky w/ one or two, but they'll likely be beat to crap, or asking a ridiculous amount for it if it isn't.

    I'd say JackB1's idea is best. Get a super-thin replacement grip. Again, it is a modification you can easily undo.
     
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  20. NotSoSuper

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    Ok ok. Thanks for the advice. I will probably go with the thin over grip method.

    I was feeling adventurous
     
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  21. Overdrive

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only racquets that have replaceable pallets is Boris Becker, Volkl, and Donnay.
     
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    ^And Head.
     
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    And Mantis
     
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  24. McLovin

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    And Fischer/Pacific.
     
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  25. Chotobaka

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    This one is half-right. If you can get NOS Fischer pallets, then no problem. Pacific will re-size your Pacific racquet, including a new Master grip, at an incredibly reasonable cost. They will not sell a consumer pallets as a separate item.
     
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  26. Tamiya

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    ^ nor does Head, parts have no retail SKU#
     
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  27. Chotobaka

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    Fischer was way cool with their Fischer Tool Kits. I still have a few stashed away. They even included their own version of Super Glue.
     
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  28. McLovin

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    Yeah, for the life of me I do not understand why Pacific isn't selling these. What's the use of having replaceable pallets if you aren't going to provide them to the public?
     
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  29. Chotobaka

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    Their story is it is a legal issue, not an unwillingness to provide them to the public per se. I have a hard time getting my head around this being a possible product liability issue. After all, Fischer sold the Tool Kit to anyone who wanted it.
     
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  30. ChicagoJack

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    Yeah, that's correct, HEAD won't sell you pallets. They were available via TW Europe a few years back, but that source ultimately evaporated for legal issues. However, **** sells pallets (with matching **** buttcaps) that will fit HEAD frames in their online retail store.

    There are four variations available:
    1. Head (rectangular) Shape, Hard
    2. Head (rectangular) Shape, Soft
    3. Prince/Wilson (squarish) Shape, Hard
    4. Prince/Wilson (squarish) Shape, soft

    Once upon a time you had to troll around the stringforum classifieds for weeks on end to find pallets for HEAD frames. Now (if you are willing to part with $30.00 US) you can just order em up lickity split quick like a bunny.

    -Jack
     
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  31. zapvor

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    thanks for the info gents
     
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  32. Tamiya

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    a decent proshop should be able order them in & resize your Head for you

    mine even says he can do the "Tour" with suspension grip :?

    now I just gotta go find one, to take up the dare :twisted:
     
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