review my strokes/style/mistakes

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  1. 7zero

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    after about one year of playing (1-2 times per week) I would like to know your opinion about where I got on my journey. You can give me your NTRP rating guesstimate (altough we do not have it here - just to get idea) and more importantly let me know what I am doing wrong, and what to improve. Do not hesitate. Hit me! :)
    I think I have lazy footwork (40+ years old dog) and tragic positioning to the ball (I can not properly estimate where ball gonna be at the time of hit). But I am sure you will find about thousand more mistakes and wrongdoings. :)

    this is video of my rallying with a friend on clay: http://youtu.be/qdbYkdclc4w I will put some more footage from HC lesson, later, maybe :)
     
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  2. TennisCJC

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    Hi, I am not a teaching pro but here's some advice.

    You sometimes spin your back foot around on the 2 HBH. Look at these video's of Agassi and see how he pushes with legs, rotates hims, shoulders into contact but the back foot stays back.

    Sometimes 2 hbh players drag the back foot around but it should be more like lift legs, rotate core, hit with weight released from back foot and then the back foot may come forward as part of the finish and recovery. You are spinning the back foot into contact which is different.

    I suggest trying a few backhands where you finish with your hips and shoulders facing the net but the back foot back.

    Some people due this on the forehand too which is also bad.

    On your forehand, your footwork is slow as you mentioned and you miss too many into the net. Try lifting with your legs and then rotating your core/hips/shoulders into contact while hitting the ball 3 feet (1 meter) over the net.
     
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  3. 7zero

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    thank you for your tip, I appreciate that
     
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  4. LeeD

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    You're actually pretty good for one year.
    Need to get shoulder's turned, and racket back to WAIT for the ball, not getting it back just in the nick of time to hit the ball.
     
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  5. sunof tennis

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    Agree with LeeD. Most pro players use the off-hand on the racquet on their forehands as they turn which almost guarantees you will turn your shoulders. Your off-hand doesn't really do much. Watch videos of Fed and Novak. Your backhand needs more core rotation and weight into shot. Again watch a video of Novak-best current two-handed backhand on the tour.
     
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    thanks, you are very kind.. I can feel I am late on back swing often.. watching myself recorded I think my backswing is too big and movement is a slow big curve, isn't it? But I do not know how to make it more compact.
     
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  7. 7zero

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    what you mean by off-hand on the racquet? holding the neck of the racquet during FH with left hand? I tried to do it but then a coach said to point left hand to the incomming ball instead, so apparently I ended up in mess - doing neither:)
     
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  8. LeeD

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    Dude, your coach says to point your left hand AFTER you have turned your shoulders using BOTH hands!
    And modern ATP style, don't point the hand, point the elbow instead.
    WTA point the hands.
     
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    fair enough, I shall work on it - rotation of shoulders elbow pointing ATP style :)

    so what you reckon my ranking is according to your scale NTRP? something like 0.5 with positive outlook? :D
     
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    You hit lots of shots looking like a solid 3.5.
    You also hit a few, waaay too many, that look like you are a 2.5, or total beginner at tennis.
    So, even though your good shots are 3.5, your bad shots offset it back down to 3.0, which is very good for a player with one year's playing experience.
     
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    allright, good know where I am now..
    looking at vid again, the left hand really look like paralyzed :D long way ahead untill I get to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qc5uExZwRg
     
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    You are looking at your BEST stroke.
    WE are seeing your worst strokes, you bunt forehand, your chop backhand.
    And we haven't come to your serves.
     
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    I did not get your last comment I guess. You pointed to my rotation/left arm mistake so I will work on it. I've seen all my worst strokes personally - but I can't do anything on them, probably only stop doing them. I do not have any illusions about my game - just to want to improve it. Including serve, yes.
     
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  14. Baxter

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    You are hitting your forehand standing on your back foot with your front foot in the air. That can't be right.
     
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  15. Lack

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    Hi, you are pretty good for first year. Just make sure not to drop your left arm when you're hitting forehand. Your left hand should be at the left shoulder when you contact the ball, so you don't lose balance. After the contact, grab your racquet between your thumb and index finger at the left side of your head, that way you will automatically turn your shoulders and get ready for the next ball faster.
     
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    you are right. I think this shot was result of my wrong positioning - chasing longer ball than was expected
     
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    thanks. I gonna drill this :)
     
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    For your backhand, don't force your left foot to come forward. You have to make it come up naturally, and in order to do that keep your left foot heeled up behind you touching the ground when you make a full swing. Since your shoulder and your hip are turned to right side after the contact, your left foot will drag up naturally. Once you do that your feet should be shoulder width apart, not in front of you.
     
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  20. Tight Lines

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    This is the left hand position you should have every time you hit a forehand just before you start your forward swing. Notice the shoulder turn while your head is facing the net.

    http://www.optimumtennis.net/images/novak-djokovic-forehand-backswing.jpg

    About your backhand, I'm not sure whether your back foot coming around is a problem. In fact, it may be a good thing since that means you are hitting through the ball with your body. What grip do you have on your bottom hand? Is it semi-western or eastern? If it's semi-western, there is more body rotation which means you might be okay in stepping around with your back foot. Just MHO.

    Harry
     
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  21. Tight Lines

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    Sorry, I meant the top hand.

    Harry
     
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  22. 7zero

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    Actually I don't know.. Doing it instincivelly, I will check this tomorrow, weather permitting
     
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