Reviews of Prince Garpahite 100 from TW users

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  1. DonDiego

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    Wow! At least you know what you're talking about when it comes to Prince oldies. I see you're honeymooning with the Exo Tour 100, still having fun? I'm seconds away from buying one.
     
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  2. Federerkblade

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    may be a abt ten days or so when i can compare the pro open and yhe graphite 100 properly. as i need to get then restrung and get some decent conditions to play in
     
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    My problem with it is the serve, which is a weakness of mine anyway. With a number of other racquets I have it is neutral. I feel like it gets attacked with this. I could also use a bit more spin. I had the 16x18 but it was really a bit too soft for me. Same reason I haven't hit with any of my Graphite Pros in about 8 months. Or the Graphite Supreme. The 18x20 Tour has a bit firmer stringbed, but I loose some spin. I think for me I should probably have picked up the Tour Team 100 and added some lead. It's what my wife plays with and has a good balance of comfort while not loosing too much feel for my tastes. The 100T ESP appears to be based on the Team mold and I'm considering switching to that. The open pattern and double bridge do make it a bit softer and more muted than the Team, but the spin is pretty darn good and I may try a bit harder to get used to the feel. I'm playing doubles with it in the morning, and will probably try out the Graphite 100 again as well even though I'm really not liking how it is strung.
     
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  4. Federerkblade

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    jones tim give us a better look at your g 100
     
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  5. DonDiego

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    Once again I've resisted buying an exo tour. I prefer tinkering with my Graphite Pro 110. I managed to lower it down to 346g and 7 pts headlight, which should be maneuverable enough. I find this racquet PHENOMENAL at net, there is just no better feeling, a mix of ultra-flex and plowthrough. With a soft multi it's heaven. The same goes for overheads and serves, when you hit you can feel the racquet bend backwards at impact and then BOOM! like a slingshot, and somehow the flex manages to keep the ball from going long. It's hard to describe. Only downsides to it is the maneuverability (though I think I can get used to) and sometimes the lack of power due to the flex. But even when your shots fall short on the other side, they're still heavy!

    I think the biggest difference with the Exo Tour and Graphite Pro will be plowthrough. Difference between the racquets will mostly be a tradeoff between plowthrough and maneuverability, which I'm not sure I'm ready to make.
     
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  6. DonDiego

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    Just pulled the trigger on a used Exo Tour 100 16x18. I need to try it to find my answers, instead of spending hours on these boards...
     
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  7. Don't Let It Bounce

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    The World According To Garpahite

    I see the problem: you're missing one or two Princes from the early 90's. :lol: Nice collection!

    If anyone gets a chance to compare the Tour Diablo MP with the new Graphite 100, I'd love to hear about it.
     
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  8. Federerkblade

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    This is incredibly light feeling despite the weight
     
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    heft?

    I'm so confused what lift feeling feels like

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  10. Fed Kennedy

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    Anyone know what the inside handle cavity looks like on a new PRINCE?
     
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  11. Chace

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    Can anybody compare the new POG 100 to the 4 stripe POG mid in terms of feel, power and stability?
     
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  12. Federerkblade

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    Edited sorry meant a light
     
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  13. Federerkblade

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    Grip 2 . skn feel then two white overwraps . lead of 4g at 3 and 9. 7 pts headlight . feel light . different to pro opens . have not played with it yet
     
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    What is the weight now? I would very much like to hear how it plays with lead at 3 and 9. Chris (TW) puts it at 12 (and some under the grip, and a leather grip)
     
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  15. Federerkblade

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    This one weighs 340g now whilst the stock one is 336g with same skin feel and two overwraps. im playing tonight with factory strings
     
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  16. Sinner

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    4g total or 4g x 2 at 3 & 9?

    340-345g total sounds about ideal for me... Feedback please!
     
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  17. Federerkblade

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    4g total 2 and 2. The racquet with the lead was much nicer . TWE told me these racquets both had a swingweight of 308 . hoping they gave an accurate measurement but I think it will need lead. Perhaps a bit more .

    Its difficult to give a review as I hate the stock factory strings . they are aweful for me anyway and Dont suit the graphites characteristics .

    I use tour bite 1.30 but recently sonic pro 1.25 which does lose tension fast even if its sitting at home without being hit . fresh they are lovely .

    Next step is to decide to put lead on both . Dont normally like lead at 12 as the racquets characteristics cs change so much but I also want it less headlight as the one with lead is 7 pts .

    Question for guys in the know how much lead do I have to put at 12 to change it to 6 pts head light .

    I feel its a bit too moneurable and looking at joker and Murray there racquets are around 4 to 5 pts head light which I like too .

    Conclusion is they need restringing and also modified to change less head light as they swing light .

    Any suggestions for tension for sonic pro or tour bite pls .

    Would have been nice if the handle was longer too

    Concerns right now are can this racquet be modified to hit a whippy modern stroke as it is hitting a very classic stroke at the moment
     
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  18. sargeinaz

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    I just saw the new Graphites in person at my local tennis shop. Easily the best looking rackets out of any new line of rackets. The black and green looks classy and makes the racket look expensive. On the other hand, the new head radicals look ugly and the matte grey part on the bottom looks really cheap. I hope to demo the midplus at some point if not for anything but it being a thin beam with a sexy paint job.
     
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  19. Federerkblade

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    Would be cool if ppl posted their specs to make this into a grounstroke beast. Mine needs lead and the right strings . I'm gonna have three so will try different set ups
     
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  20. RetroSpin

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    I agree. The Prince looks sweet. Cool, classy and expensive looking, plus it rings the bell for every old school player. Head had an iconic look with the radical but foolishly changed it.
     
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  21. Fed Kennedy

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    Anyone else garphed yet?
     
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  22. jayserinos99

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    I got to hit with my 100s on Friday night and this morning. Basically groundstrokes and volleys and some light serving. I actually like this frame stock. Chris was right when he said that it had a familiar feel to it. I had my 100s strung with the free syngut 16 at 56 and I actually liked it. Not too much spin or pop, but definitely enough to let the frame's characteristics shine through. I loved how quick it was through the air and yet stable. I just felt confident to take really big cuts at each shot. Compared to my modified APDs, it doesn't have as much inherent power and spin, but that's a given. But taking serves with the 100, I was able to get some real nasty kick as long as I went through and hit it clean.

    Am I going to switch to this frame now? Not yet as I'm deep in the combo season and don't want to mess myself up. But given that I'm lucky enough to play during the winter, I can tinker with my 100s in the off season before men's season starts. I'd first go with my normal strings, Tour Bite 16L, at my regular tension 53, and only make minor tweaks to the weighting but it wouldn't be much if at all.
     
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  23. Federerkblade

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    Because this racquet has a weird crispy thwack feeling on contact and you really feel it. Would a soft poly help to increase the spin . synthetic gut and stiff string I personally do not think would not suit this

    I have sonic pro which is relatively soft
     
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  24. Federerkblade

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    New set up. Needs a restring but you can see the lead placement
     
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  25. MAXXply

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    Hey all you early adopters - are the Resi Pro grips on the 100 making the gripsize feel any smaller or larger than the leather gripped POGs? Or same/no difference? Thanks
     
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  26. jonestim

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    I hit with both on Saturday. 4 stripe mid was strung with Iontec Black 1.25@45. The POG 100 was strung with Prince TC 15L@53ish. I'm not sure how much is the string, but my impression is that the 100 is almost as nice feeling as the 4 stripe. Newer mids were a little brassy for me and this does feel more muted. 100 has more power, but tough to tell how much more as the strings in it were lower powered and stiffer. It was easier to play with, and I think if I was staying with this type of racquet I would be buying one.

    All my POGs are either 1/2 or 5/8 and the demo was a 3/8 so I can't comment directly, but in general the Resi Pro is a hair thinner than a leather grip on my other racquets. I also have replaced the Dura Pro on two of my Diablos with Resi Pro and noticed the size going down a hair as well as the weight. You should order the same size you normally do and replace the grip if needed.
     
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  27. Chace

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    Thanks jonestim
     
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  28. Federerkblade

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    just seen this . look at nalbandians lead placement. just found it interesting
     
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  29. Sinner

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    What is that, roughly 7-8g?

    What's the final static weight?
     
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  30. Federerkblade

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    Its 6g is around 342g
     
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  31. Power Player

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    I am most likely going to get a Garaphite 100, but I will be buying the LB version for a nice extended demo to place in the bag next to my Tec 315. It's specs look perfect out of the gate and no mods required for me. It will be a nice way to find out over time how I play with an XL stick. I am shorter and have always been interested in the lore of this stick. The new version with it's modern baseline specs really grabbed my attention.
     
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    I took my 100 out for a spin today. First time I have hit with it and really other than a short warm up, moved right into a doubles match. Mine is strung with natural gut at 58. I haven't yet done any modifications.

    I really liked the way the racquet volleyed. A bit less cumbersome than the POG OS Tour that I have been playing with. Decent power and very good control. Took a bit to adjust swing speed as it did for all of my strokes.

    Ground strokes were good from both sides. Had no trouble producing spin on the slice backhand. I felt you needed to generate your own power even more with this racquet than the OS. This was not unexpected. Also felt like the racquet was quicker through the air on the backhand slice service return which was a help against a bigger serve.

    The serve was where I had the most issues. I sent a lot of serves long with this frame. Probably again an issue trying to adjust racquet speed. I also had mixed results with my kick and slice serves. Again, these were going a bit long though the directional control was good. Probably just need more significant time to dial the serve in.

    My overall impression was good. It offered good control and I felt it fairly forgiving. I was able to get enough racquet on some shots where I was totally out of position and at least get the ball back into play. I always liked that about the POG OS and I don't think there was a real discernible difference with the 100.

    I'm going to practice some serves before tinkering more with frame.
     
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    I took this out for a spin today (along with the Response). I remained open minded, but expected to find something I didn't like about it (essentially that it had too much pop). Strung up with some new Prince string XP 1.30/16 in black (looked nice). Conditions were awful (in the Atlanta area), cooler and windy as heck.

    Background, I've been all over the map the last 4/5 years with racquets. I've played with essentially everything. Do I need closed pattern or open, do I need flexible or stiff?, etc. I've been playing Prince Rebel 95s the last 6 months (the 2010 version then to the 2012 version). I could never get comfortable on the FH with them. The 2HBH was pure, and all else was very good. My FH wasn't awful, it just didn't do anything special.

    After two sets, my first impression is that this was outstanding. I jumped all over my regular hitting partner 4-1 and closed it out 6-4 (he owns a 60-40 margin over me historically). I took the next set 6-3.

    Forehands were diving down and difficult to handle. Directional control was very nice too (surprisingly). I could pull it CC with margin or go inside out, or DTL with ease.

    Backhands, oh did I enjoy the margin. I could hit flat and drive the ball, but this stick much preferred topspin here too.

    Even volleys were solid. I could drive it or use touch.

    Serves were also spectacular too. I was really dragging opponent wide with the kick serve; I was also able to hit big, flat serves too.

    My only gripe is that the stick didn't move my feet very well. That's about it. (jokes) Seriously, I think the string was a good fit as well. I plan to try some other string. It is a bit lighter than what I'm used too, but I think the open pattern (for me) made up for the weight difference. It played great in stock form.

    I can't wait to play a league match with it Sat AM.
     
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  34. Federerkblade

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    Great review whats yours weigh Chizzle and do you know the swingweight

    whats your grip size ? any overwraps and what tension was it strung at ?

     
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    Oh yea, I played with the 3 (4 3/8 ). I thought it was a touch smaller than a normal 3. I liked the "fake leather" for a day like today. I typically prefer a Grip Size 2.

    Weighed 11.7 - 331 grams.

    With Dampener, no OG or anything else.
     
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  36. ae1222

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    I have been loving the LB. You are a TF user, I think you will really like this frame. I cut mine down to 27.5" and added a bit of lead and it feels better than the TF 315 to me. Only downside is I string it tight (65#) to get control so I am breaking poly every hour or so.
     
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  37. jayserinos99

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    IMO the POG100 is just the right firmness, so I'd actually go with my regular TB16L or even possibly MSV Hex 17 or 18.

    I got to hit for an hour tonight with my unmodded POG100 strung with syngut16 at 56#; I took warmup groundstrokes and volleys for 1/2 hour and then a set of doubles. I really enjoy taking bigger cuts at the ball and when I get caught short hopping it from the baseline, the frame delivers because it's so easy to whip around. That crispy thwack on contact is enjoyable and I every shot I hit was really close to the baseline. The volleys were on point as well and for the half volleys all I had to do was set it and forget it, the frame took care of the rest. Great touch too. As for my serve, I'm more of a slice/twist server and this frame did not disappoint. I actually hit a kicker 1/3 way up the box and over the short side fence tonight; I haven't done that in a while and that was using my old PB10mid. Slices out wide on the ad side were just sliding away from the returner. I also hit a couple of overheads and I can just get the frame into position and hit well placed and flat overheads with ease.
     
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    Awesome, you are using it? Very cool. If it feels better than the tfight, then this will be a fun ride.
     
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  40. Federerkblade

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    More thoughts on the Garphite 100. For it is better with 1.25 strings. Have had 4g 1.25 in there now 50lbs originally. have no idea what the swingweight is but with f inches of lead at 3 and 9 *4 it still feels too headlight . i need for the top half to have more weight. so i have added 2.5 inches of lead at 12 so thats just over 1g.

    the next step may be too double layer the lead tape at 3 and 9 but im quite cautious abt that.

    i feel this racquet could be beast with the right set but i dont know what that is yet.

    4g may not be the right set up as its so low pwered
     
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  41. jayserinos99

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    I just restrung both of mine up with TB16L mains and Gosen OG Sheep 17 crosses, one at 53, the other at 56. I think I strung them too tight and it's getting colder, so I hope I don't hurt my arm. I still haven't added lead because it's just fine with the way it swings and is fairly stable for it's light weight. I don't even know what the static weight and balance is of my frames but I know it just feels good.
     
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    I have not. Decided to go with the LB to see the benefits of the extra length for my game. I will probably need weeks with the LB to see if I want to stay with a longer racquet or return to the 27. I really love the Tec 315, and if I went back to standard length, I would probably just stay with that.

    From what I have experienced, I would need to lead a standard POG up to 340 grams and get the SW in the 330s for it to compete with the Tec.
     
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  45. Sinner

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    Haha... I feel you bro... these are just my Gar-graphites.
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    Anyway... hit with the 100 for about 45mins last night. Thoughts later.
     
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    I have added 4 grams to the throat of my LB. It was just too fly swatter-ish for me and light. I think the balance of the LB is perfect for lead because it should pound the ball once you get close to 340. Im currently at 338 and just going by feel.

    The way I figure out my weighting is timing, feel and also cross court shots. If I am pulling the CC shots wide because I am early, that is a clear sign to add lead for me.

    I think this stick is probably perfect in the 11.9-12.2 range. I like that it comes with a nice SW, but lower static weight so you can lead it up without having to rebalance too much by adding at 12. I did put 2 grams at 12 for a little more SW, and that played great, I just needed more weight to the stick. Will see how it goes.
     
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  47. Federerkblade

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    the G 100 takes lead quite well i have now nearly 4g at 12

    and feel sgood
     
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  48. Sinner

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    So anyway...

    Initial G100 impressions are that the head-lightness was felt instantly (especially since I back-to-back'd with my POG OS). Very maneuverable... probably too much for my liking, but very comfortable. I got decent power from it despite it being that headlight. One nice thing about the headlightness was that when I had to run-down a wide ball, it allowed my to whip the ball back cross-court.

    The frame also felt stiffer than I imagined, but not sure if it might have been the tighter & fresher string-job I had on it Still needs a bit more plow-thru in my opinion. I hit relatively flat so I can't say if I got more spin out of it. I also only hit from the baseline so no volley-comments.

    Few more hours in stock-form before the leading-experiment.
     
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    Sinner, I had the same experience with you using the long body.

    Ill probably end up at around 340 grams, and the stick will probably be setup perfect. I am playing a 344 gram Tec 315, so going down to 332 was just way too much of a difference.
     
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  50. Federerkblade

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    gotta say agree with most of that. i felt it was too headlight. whats your strung with mine is 4g 1.25 50lbs not sure if its right string for the racquet

    Initial G100 impressions are that the head-lightness was felt instantly (especially since I back-to-back'd with my POG OS). Very maneuverable... probably too much for my liking, but very comfortable. I got decent power from it despite it being that headlight. One nice thing about the headlightness was that when I had to run-down a wide ball, it allowed my to whip the ball back cross-court.

    The frame also felt stiffer than I imagined, but not sure if it might have been the tighter & fresher string-job I had on it Still needs a bit more plow-thru in my opinion. I hit relatively flat so I can't say if I got more spin out of it. I also only hit from the baseline so no volley-comments.

    Few more hours in stock-form before the leading-experiment.[/QUOTE]
     

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