RFE: Marat Safin, a Devout Public Figure, Greater than Sampras and Federer combined

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  1. SoBad

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    In this recent article, Radio Free Europe confirms that Safin is a better tennis player than players like Federer and even Sampras. The reporter stops short of comparing Safin to Nadal. The article focuses on Safin’s current role on the global political stage which has naturally grown beyond the scope of mere lawmaking at the federal parliamentary level and extends to spiritual leadership for all of Eurasia.
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    Marat Safin: From Legendary Tennis to Devout Public Figure

    Former world No.1 tennis player Marat Safin is well known internationally as a gifted but mercurial tennis talent who could humble the likes of Pete Sampras and Roger Federer when he was in the mood.

    He was also renowned -- some would say notorious -- for his lavish off-court lifestyle, replete with glamorous women on his arm and flashy cars in his driveway.

    In recent years, however, the two-time Grand Slam winner has done a lot to temper his brash bad-boy image. The opulent trappings of fame are no longer so evident and his impetuous racket-smashing antics are now a distant memory.

    Since his retirement in 2009, he has consolidated this newfound respectability by becoming an elected member of parliament for President Vladimir Putin's ruling United Russia party.

    In the eyes of many, Safin has added a dash of youthful vibrancy to Russia's old guard, something he himself acknowledged ahead of his election in December 2011.

    "I could be the best-looking guy in the Duma," he said. "But that's only because all the other guys are over 60."
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    With his political star in the ascendant, Safin has also embraced his ethnic Tatar identity.

    Tennis fans who still associate him with the temperamental, volatile party animal of old would find it hard to recognize the modest, seemingly devout Muslim who attended prayers wearing a traditional Tatar tubetey during Eid al-Adha celebrations in Nizhny Novgorod last week.

    Nonetheless, Safin himself maintains that his faith and ethnicity have always been an integral part of his make-up, even during his hell-raising playing days.

    "You can't fight your genes," he told "USA Today" in 2005. "I'm Russian, but I'm 100 percent Muslim. All the Muslim people are passionate, stubborn. We have hot blood."

    Of course, Safin's very public mosque appearance during one of Islam's biggest feasts is also good politicking for any ambitious tyro seeking to bolster his grassroots support.

    It could even be seen as a timely endorsement of Russia's system of ethnicity-based republics, which was roundly condemned on October 27 by leading opposition politician Mikhail Prokhorov.

    In this sense, Safin could be seen to embody what United Russia thinks of Prokhorov's proposal to abolish ethnic republics such as Tatarstan, Daghestan, and North Ossetia.

    -- Coilin O'Connor
     
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  2. loci

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    The headline should read, "Marat Safin, a Devout Public Figure, More Handsome than Sampras and Federer combined." I don't think anyone would argue with that.
     
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    "gifted tennis talent who could humble the likes of Pete Sampras and Roger Federer"

    - that's what Radio Free Europe said

    Of course, Safin is also handsome, as you point out, and a global spiritual leader.
     
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  4. 90's Clay

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    From bar hopper to pope?
     
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  5. SoBad

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    Legendary sports stars occasionally dine at restaurants, just like ordinary folks do. There is no reason to believe that history of occasional dining out incidents impedes such stars' capacity to develop into global spiritual leaders to any tangible extent.
     
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    I didn't realize Safin was Muslim. Cool stuff.
     
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    I can't stand the party Safin is in, consisting of those who looted and sold off the planned economy after 1991, turning themselves from state bureaucrats into capitalist gangsters.
     
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    Muslim party animal??? Slightly oxymoronic, nyet?
     
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  9. SoBad

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    Legendary athletes are known to dine out on occasion, just like the ordinary folks.
     
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    Everyone plays by the same rules - how do you draw the line between "good" and "bad" guys?
     
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    Better than Sampras and Federer? In talent? Possibly. In skill level and consistency at the top of the game? Never.
     
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    i don't see anything in here about his specific views or policy ideas...look, we all love marat, but is he a thinker?..where does he see russia going in the future?..what about us-russian relations?...show me some meat (as his girlfriends used to say)
     
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  13. dominikk1985

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    I think they meant he boned more chicks than fed and sampras combined:D.

    If Safin is Muslim his lifestyle is not very muslim:)
     
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    Somebody forgot to tell him the truckload of virgins were supposed to come in the afterlife.:mrgreen:
     
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    I'm surprised he's muslim as well. I know he's tatar, but still. Anyway turkic muslims are similar to modern day Christians. They don't follow most of the Quran.
     
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    He is ethnically Tatar and they are Muslin but Safin has never been a practicing Muslim. But because he is a politician and a member of Putins repressive All Russia party in the Duma when he is visiting a an Islamic country or mosque he does the politically correct thing (see here in the picture). His family background may be Muslim but his Safin's lifestyle has never been.
     
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    The Quran, even in its strictest interpretation, is only a book that has admittedly come to be of importance to communities. The realities of the communities that have evolved in the Muslim world are at stark contrast to many of the rules proposed in the text. The modern spiritual leaders of Eurasia have the wisdom to recognise the realities and balance the strict interpretation of the ancient scripts against the realities of the modern world.
     
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    I use a pencil
     
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  19. BauerAlmeida

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    Of course. The writer never said he was more achieved than Fed and Sampras. But he beat both players in the slams he won so that's why they mentioned it probably.

    Nah, we was almost a saint:p
     
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  20. gavna

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    You nailed it........
     
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    Yeah a young pre prime Federer in his early 20s and Sampras at the end of his career......hmmmm how many slams did Safin finally win? Gasquet beat Federer once to. Ho hum.

    And if showing up in a mosque playing politics is what passes for spiritual leadership - I guess he is leaning how to play the political game very well.
     
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    When Safin beat Federer in the AO SF in 2005, Fed wasn't "pre-prime" - he was right at his peak; note his demolition of Hewitt in the US final in 2004. In fact this epic Safin win (still one of my favourite matches) was Fed's only non-clay slam defeat between 2004 and 2007.

    Sampras was reigning Wimbledon champ in 2000 and had just broken the major record, so hardly an old mug.

    So let's give Safin his due for these victories, even if his overall career is nowhere near in the league of Federer or Sampras.
     
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    Fed owned Safin (record is like 10 - 2) and Federer in was even better in 2006 onwards.....in 2005 he was still only just starting to dominate. Roger in 2006 onwards wouldn't have lost that 5th set.

    As for Pete of course he was on The down side....by 2000 he wasn't dominating (he was older by close to 10yrs over Marat) and he knew he was towards the end of his time and everything he was doing was geared to getting those last few slams. Also Pete at Wimby was special.....but by 2000 the writing was on the wall.
     
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    And what rules are they? Its always been easier to rob people with a pen.



     
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    yes, good idea, that way you can keep erasing until your bank balance tells you to stop


     
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    Is that what American Presidents do when they visit Saudi Arabia? And they snort drugs and then pretend they're born again.



     
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    The natural law does not distinguish between suits, badges, leather coats, tubeteikas, etc.
     
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    Will TW carry the Safin hat??
     
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    Safin is on my ignore list.
     
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    No, this is not a fake-gold plated federer purse. It is an item that is conferred upon an enlightened individual by a higher-up spiritual leader.

    The historians at it again. Yesterday I went snorkeling on my private island in the Bahamas and the seafood life in the pristine waters was spectacular. Now I am back in my luxurious fazenda and will play Moonlight Sonata on my Steinway grand piano, thank you.
     
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    LOL. In 2005 Federer was at his peak. Just starting to dominate?? You missed the 2004 season.

    And you say that after 2006 he wouldn't have lost that set?? Federer was much better in 2005 than after 2006. He only lost 3 matches apart from the Safin match.

    And Sampras wasn's washed up. He had a great run to the final (defeating Hewitt in the SF).
     
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    Great thread about a great (obviously) man.

    And nobody says Marat was better than Pete and Roger on a daily basis. But he could be on occasion.
     
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  33. _skunk_

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    Seems just the natural career of the athletes of east Europe, once their career is over they go to politics, so many players did. Cannot really understand how people can vote for them.
    Anyhow voting a guy who hasn't been able to handle himself, what kind of guarantees he can offer
     
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