Roche improve Hewitt more than Connors improving Roddick? or spurge of the moment

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  1. DarkTennis

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    Hewitt with new coach now seem to be doing really good...but could this be like roddick when he first had connors a sudden good play then back to realization of skill lvl after....
    Is Hewitt improvement due to Roche?
    How you think of Connors with Roddick?
    Whose improvement is better?
     
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  2. kingkong

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    I think it is due to his racquet, he has a bit more power and spin now.
     
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    Like usually new coach, new blood, different aproach. These are short term changes. That why Fed takes on so many coaches, taking the best out of each and implementing in the game.
     
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  4. FedererUberAlles

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    Maybe Roche's knowledge of Federer helped Hewitt
     
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  5. West Coast Ace

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    I wouldn't give the coach too much credit. As Killer Cahill alluded to yesterday, his offcourt life has stabilized and Hewitt is not able - and eager - to play his best again.

    Unless I missed some big change in strategy, I saw the same Hewitt out there the last 3 months - just better execution than we've seen previously. Having his parents and other hangers-on gone is probably a good thing. Now he just spends time with the wife and daughter.

    I also think that other than the top 3, he looks at the rest of the competition and sees no one who he doesn't think he can beat.
     
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  6. Bjorn99

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    First of all, Hewitt is lower than Roddick and has farther to improve. Secondly, a coach can only do so much. Both Hewitt and Roddick have a couple of weaknesses that probably prevent them from ever winning a major again. Hewitt can be softballed. Roddick's backhand is a modern day Courier bunt. Connors got him slicing, but............................

    Quite honestly, I think Connors and Hewitt would be an interesting molotov cocktail.
     
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    Hewitt did not even come close to beating Federer in 2004-2005 when he was still at the top of his game, and the 2nd or 3rd best player in the World. That is saying something to what Roche has already done for his game.

    This is a great time for mens tennis with Federer struggling, Nadal and Djokovic and Gasquet and others on the rise, Hewitt resurgent, Roddick still hanging in, Davydenko coming into his own at middle age. A diverse group of strong guys battling at the top.
     
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    He has come back to the field though. He isnt even leading the ATP race, even if he wins today. When was the last time this deep into the year he was trailing in the ATP race, even if by a smidge margin perhaps, and deceptive in a way.

    Also I cant remember the last time he lost to players like Canas and Volandri in 3 of the 7 Masters events he has played so far, and hasnt won a hard court Masters yet in 3 that have finished (although that might change today).
     
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  9. West Coast Ace

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    You must be clairvoyant - you knew anointedone was going to post - see below!

    Ha ha! That is all the more classic, coming right after Tennis Guy's (accurate) statement about the mental capacity of some posters. A few loses to Canas, two tiebreaks to Djoko, and suddenly he's just 'another guy in the pack'. Glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read your post, otherwise I'd be going out to buy a new laptop...
     
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  10. jaykay

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    I thoroughly enjoyed the Hewitt-Federer match and I thought Fed was a little lucky to pull it off. Esply in the 2nd set and the 3rd set, I thought Hewitt was playing out of his mind.

    Fed's game was defly off y.day. The few games wherein he pulled off some jaw-dropping shots and stepped it up bigtime was when he was down a break in the 2nd as well as the 3rd set when was able to raise his game and break back to get even. The long rallies and the game of chess these two were playing against each other was facinating to watch.

    The final set-tiebreaker was somewhat of a letdown though; almost as if Hewitt threw in the towel.

    If Blake brings his A++ game today, I think we may be in for a good match; let's hope.

    I'm not entirely sure whether Rochey ought to be given credit for Lleyton's resurgence; but it is good that the chasm between the top 2 in the game and the rest of the world is not that wide anymore.

    Tennis is good, life is great...

    Cheers, all.
     
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  11. tennispro11

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    To me it seems as if Lleyton is playing with more confidence than he has in a long time. Now that he has his life kind of in order, he can focus on tennis more. I think having Roche around, who is a world class tennis coach, gave him the extra confidence boost he needed. I mean his old coach Roger Rasheed was a rugby player. Lleyton just needed a guy like Roche and Cahill as well to tell him he can still play with the big guys in tennis and can do well playing his game.
     
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    Learn to read, and you might understand what I am saying better. I never said he was just "another guy in the pack". I said he is coming back to the field a bit, meaning there isnt the big difference between him and the next few best there used to be. That is far from now being "another guy in the pack" but he isnt far out in front of everyone else anymore. He doesnt even lead the ATP Race BTW, regardless if he won the final of Cincinnati or not.
     
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  13. 127mph

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    hewitt just plays well when he plays alot of matches. if hes motivated he will not loose to anyone but federer. if he gets a good us open draw, finals for him
     
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  14. GasquetGOAT

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    between Roddick and Hewitt, who do you think has more room to improve given the same coach?
     
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    Coaching can only do so much. Depends more on the player's range of potential. Hewitt definitely has more than Roddick especially being more natural at net. Oh yeah the mobility part too.
     
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  16. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    The 2008 season will tell how much progress the Hewitt/Roche relationship has made, I think a longer period of time is needed before making an assessment. .
     
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  17. krystlel

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    I'm looking forward to all the hype of Hewitt's game being remodelled, etc and this being the second coming of his career. Although I am curious myself to see how Hewitt's game changes within the next few months or so. Commentators and experts have been wanting him to change his game for ages which explains their excitement, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,22894511-23216,00.html

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,22883593-23216,00.html
     
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  18. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    This is a good find, and if successful it should add an interesting mix to the ATP tour.
     
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    http://news.smh.com.au/hewitt-will-give-the-open-a-shake-roche/20071209-1fyd.html

    I think he can get back in the top 6 in 2008, barring injuries.
     
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  20. gerikoh

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    hewitt should improve his accuracy on his 1st serve. then learn to kill lots of shots. ;)
     
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    Apparently from past coaches and some practice partners of his he actually possesses a great backhand up the line, the only problem is he doesn't want to go low percentage in a match...ever. I liked how Hewitt played from clay season on the the US Open so hopefully he really has improved even more so he can finally win that Aussie Open ;)
     
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