Roddick can emulate Agassi's late career peaking according to coach

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  1. davey25

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    This is an interesting article:

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04042010/58/roddick-emulate-agassi.html

     
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  2. Barricade V

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    I would absolutely love for roddick to have a late career resurgence. I think he certainly has the potential to.
     
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  3. davey25

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    That would truly be amazing as Agassi had the longevity and amazing late career success he had with so many slumps and sabatical years. Roddick has basically had none of those and has been top 10 almost without exception (I think a blip in the middle of 2006) since late 2002 now.
     
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    ya maybe, roddick still has lots in him
     
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    I'd say Roddick is playing his best tennis right now since he was #1, and what we saw in Miami was very encouraging. He now knows when to mix in aggressive play and passive. This is an unprecenented style for him, as he was always playing one or the other; never in between. It's very possible that he can end the year in the top 5.
     
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    with that kind of serve he can prolong his playing days.

    even today he won most of his service game without going to deuce (might be once) that is great on hard court.
     
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  7. scotus

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    Unfortunately, Federer still has a very long career ahead of him.

    Fed does not put any unnecessary mileage on his body, and with his efficient footwork, there is not much wear and tear.

    And that does not bode well with Roddick when it comes to winning Grand Slam titles.
     
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  8. Chadwixx

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    Only if he starts taking vitamins like agassi did. Its nearly impossible to get better at such a late age in your career in a sport like tennis. Especially with a physcial game like they both play. If they played like paul annacone or a 2nd half pete it would be doable.
     
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    I think Stefanki should just be quiet. Andy is playing some great tennis right now, and it seems that every time that Stefanki opens his mouth, Roddick gets screwed (i.e "The Roger show is over").
     
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    Roddick is no agassi
     
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    you are not understanding the main point
     
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    I agree and think it is possible.

    Only problem is Roddicks ground game is no where near as efficient as Agassi's, but his serve game is far easier and more natural.

    I think he can do it, wont be pretty doing it, but he can do it.
     
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    Stefanki is shooting from the hip again. I remember right before the AO this year he said "Roger show is over".
    Roddick's best years are behind him.
     
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  14. NamRanger

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    Ah, I can only imagine it now.



    A resurgent Andy Roddick finally toppling an old and crippled Federer. One can dream can't they?




    He has definitely found the right balance on what to do now. He adjusts according to his opponent, and plays aggressive when he needs to (though he still needs a little work on this IMO). I think Stefanki himself was surprised that Roddick was able to just clobber forehands out of nowhere against Nadal, and I think he feels that if Roddick can combine his serve, his big forehand, and his other improved skillsets, he can go a very long way.
     
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  15. Justdoit10

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    Absolutely man. I dream about Federer finally defeating Nadal in the final of RG. I think Roddick has a higher chance of beating Federer though.
     
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  16. Commando Tennis Shorts

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    I think this argument definitely holds some water. I think, though, that as the next few years come, Roddick's serve will slowly get less effective (which is not saying much; it will still be very effective b/c his serve is phenomenal), but when his serve diminishes, he's going to need other skill sets to fall back on---meaning, he is going to have to really develop the other parts of his game.

    That's the challenge. Now we'll see if Roddick and Stefanki can answer.
     
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  17. Halba

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    roddick will never win a slam again. masters series yes
     
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  18. Halba

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    in a slam fed owns roddick, no losses with a few blowouts but also good tight encounters
     
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    I don't think so; Roddick has actually pulled back on his serve, and that may actually prolong the life of his shoulder. His normal high range is now in the mid 130s; very rarely does he crank one up to 140 which was actually his normal speed before.
     
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  20. Commando Tennis Shorts

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    I definitely hope so. That would keep him very relevant for years to come
     
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    What the future holds, no one knows. Fact is thought that Roddick, is playing the best now in years and is leading the ATP points race. Good for him, he has had a great work ethic. How many people would have thrown in the towel by now?
     
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    roddick will pretty much always have his serve. the serve is the last thing to go unless he has a physical injury.

    and if roddick has the motivation to work hard, he will be in contention for a few more years to come.

    roddick will just have to stay fit and play the right way.
     
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    Interesting, but what else is his coach going to say?
     
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  24. forzamilan90

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    roddick is better now, in his latter years, but i don't see it happening, ultimately the younger guns will catch up, even fed is not guaranteed wearing down
     
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    Ya this maybe could happen, except for the fact that Agassi was better in almost every department of the game than Roddick besides the serve, and most importantly, the INTANGIBLES! Roddick doesn't have the same mentality, intensity or belief that a born, multiple-slam champion like Agassi had. Its just not in his cards. Sorry.
     
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    Agassi had a horse shoe stuck up his rear end throughout his entire career. If Roddick had that much luck, he could easily be a 6+ slam winner.
     
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    LOL But he has his tongue stuck in Federer's rear. That's why he goes extreme from emotional joy to major depression. People tell him he's wrong for pretending he didn't lose because he paraded that Federer's superior & a great friend. Anyone could see, he needed a coach/father figure, mental help & weight loss.

    Playing the victim's cute to his family, but when his family is ridiculed, what does Roddick think? He decided to give up for Federer's fun ride, & continue chasing stupid models and actresses to marry. Roddick still says Agassi's a pal, #1 superstar, so there's nothing wrong with taking drugs & breaking tennis rules & getting away with it. Agassi's no role model. He's a pitiful brat who needs no more publicity.
     
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  28. OrangeOne

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    Wimbledon last year there was less than 1% between them.

    So much negativity... nothing at all to say Roddick's next few years couldn't be his best. I do agree with many though, that at slams (esp. other than W), Fed will still have the edge for at least a year or two.
     
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    roddick is as good in best 3/5 as he has in 2/3s and a grandslam is one match more or two more (depending on which masters) with one extra top 100 player to play as your starting match. So its pretty rash to say he will never win a slam again after he has convincingly won a masters. He probably wont win one but to say he will NEVER is pretty bold.
     
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    I agree with you about Agassi except for 1995. That is one year he had alot more bad luck then good, and was quite unlucky to not end that year as a 2 or even 3 slam winner. That is by far the best tennis he ever played, much better than 1999-early 2000 where he had his best results as far as slam results. On the whole of his career though I agree he had an incredible amount of good luck.
     
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    i give it a 5% likelyhood.
     
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    In 95 indeed he played very well; him losing to Chang I think at both the AO was a pretty big disappointment.



    Edit : Oops, I think that was 96.
     
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    Roddick's mental toughness is unmatched right now, except for Fed in a slam until we see otherwise.

    His movement looks good, his variety and tactics look the best he's ever had. 2010/2011 could be very strong years for Roddick.

    When you add the fact that the other top players are dealing with injuries, slumps, or whiney attitudes....the possibility of Roddick winning that 2nd slam is very real.
     
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    Man rootin 4 the AMERICAN Andy Roddick to have a gr8t year and mayb just mayb pick up his second GS. He just keeps hanging around. I think he can have a second wind in his career. I think he is a better player than Agassi. And if they played ten times I pick Andy to win 6 of those ten matches. I dont see any reason why with Stefanki guiding him he wont do well.
     
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    lets hope so!!
     
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  36. WillAlwaysLoveYouTennis

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    Maybe I've gone more sentimental. I didn't particularly care for Roddick in his younger years, but when he really dug his heels in, stepped up his training work ethic, I find myself cheering for him everytime he steps on the court. He says he loves the sport and it really shows, that's critically important for me as a viewer.

    I don't know that he'll even win another Grand Slam, but he gets out there are plays his heart out week after week. You can't accuse him of not giving 100%. I have no idea how anyone can say he lacks intensity. You can see it in his gaze and his moves: Roddick IS intensity. I think he'll remain around and relevant at least a couple of more years, and why not?
     
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    I can't see Roddick keeping it up. He'll gain the weight back. And as others mentioned, the young guys are getting better all the time. I think this is his '2 year plan' - taking a few more shots at winning another major. Once he either wins one (I severely doubt it) or realizes he can't, he's retiring to start a family with the wife.
     
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