Roddick - Canas

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  1. Vlad

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    It is amazing how much confidence Roddick has at the moment. Canas started as well as anyone I have ever seen returning every single bomb and Roddick is still knows that there is no way he is getting broken. So, he holds and then does his magic on the return. By the way i never liked Roddick and never will but I have to say he has top 5 return in the game right now. BTW he has top 5 backhand along with one of the best forehands and best ever serve. He is one of the best mover as well.
     
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  2. Jayzzz

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    He's going to win it all. Federer is not at the top of his game.
     
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  3. Vlad

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    I don't know about that because Federer even not playing well can still beat Roddick but i will be hugely surprised if anyone outside of Federer will even win a set off him.
     
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  4. Vlad

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    At this stage he just humiliates his opponents. I'll be surprised if Canas holds more than twice per set..
     
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  5. ZhuangCorp

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    • but I have to say he has top 5 return in the game right now. BTW he has top 5 backhand along with one of the best forehands and best ever serve. He is one of the best mover as well.

    No way does Roddick have a top 5 return. That is just crazy. There are so many better returners, including Federer.

    His backhand is definitely NOT top 5, tha'ts stupid to say. Although his forehand and serve are both very good.

    And he is NOT one of the best movers, tha'ts another ignorant statement. Hewitt, Ferrero, Coria, Federer, Grosjean, are good movers. Roddick has a very heavy foot and seems to stomp around.
     
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  6. Matt H.

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    if Andy continues playing like he did today, and his other 2 matches....he'll be lifting that trophy without even dropping a set the entire tournament. Yes, even if he plays Federer.
     
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  7. Aoya

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    Wow, Roddick served up +-20 Aces in that match. McEnroe is right, Roddick's service is just too good for the common player.
     
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  8. ymtmac

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    Roddick might be the favorite based on currently level of play, but win the open without dropping a set? Believe me, against better returners like Hewitt, Federer and Agassi, Roddick's service game won't be as easy as tody's game.
    Personally I would still rate Federer as the favorite since it seems that as long as Fed makes past early rounds he will raise his game.
     
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  9. MattNowicki

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    Federer my foot- Federer had issues breaking FABRICE SANTORO. Okay, that's harsh- I'm sorry. If your king Roger is going to even take a set off Andy, he better be a top of his game- winning, I don't think there's even a chance is Andy is playing the way he is.
     
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  10. bee65n

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    So Andy is suddenly the king of return and has an awesome backhand and can beat Federer because he did well against 3 opponents so far? please....you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. At their current levels, Federer at his best will win in straight sets against Roddick at his best
     
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  11. Matt H.

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    i admit that i root for Roddick when he plays Federer.

    I will concede that Federer is the favorite and will beat Roddick the majority of the time on any tennis court on the planet.....except Flushing Meadows. That x-factor lifts Roddick's game up a couple of notches.
     
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  12. Vlad

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    I did not say that Roddick is the king of return and backhand. I am saying how much I am impressed by his ability to break opponents serve multiple times during each set. Don't you think he deserves better comment than "Roddick only has big serve and forehand"? Once again, I am NOT a Roddick fan, never was and never will be. The level of Roddick game is improving by weeks if not days. I still think Federer is the favorite to win it all but I think it will be a lot closer than many of you might think. Roddick still has to prove he can beat Federer but he has all the shots at this point and yes that includes his backhand and return of serve.
    OK, he might not be one of the best movers on the tour but he is improving in that department as well.
     
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  13. Tennis Guy

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    I agree. Roddick is destroying is opponents Federer-like!
     
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  14. yee

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    How arrogant and ignorant. Remember Toronto? Federer struggled in almost every single match in earlier round but what happened in the final vs Andy???
     
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  15. MattNowicki

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    Oh why, Yee- how ironic that you'd be the one to dub me ignorant and arrogant. Just you wait.
     
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  16. yee

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    Another ignorant statement. Wait for what? Did I say there is no chance Andy will win if he plays Roger in the final? I'm saying you are being arrogant for making such statement before it even happens and I gave you one good example in Toronto.
     
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  17. alienhamster

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    I don't think it's "arrogance" to make predictions about the outcome of a tennis final. It's just a guess based on current performance and player preferences. No big deal, no need for name-calling.

    As for the thread topic, Federer and Roddick are both playing very well so far, but I think each is going to have trouble against Agassi and Hewitt, respectively. (Yeah, I'm assuming they're all going to make it that far.)
     
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  18. mlee2

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    Federer has the uncanny ability to raise his game whenever he plays Roddick. That's my theory at least. It just matches up so well with Federer, which is a huge shame for Roddick.

    Remember whenever Sampras and Agassi played, Agassi would play well but he always made Sampras play top form (or close to it) to beat him, always bringing out his best.

    I see the same thing happening here.
     
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  19. yee

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    Read his post before making a statement and who's name calling now? If you're talking about me, please go back to the other thread of my comments for you which I see you have yet to come out with anything to back up all the things you had accused me of.
     
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  20. AndyC

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    Don't see how Matt's post is arrogant.. harsh on Fed yes.. ignorant?? that's a judgement call.. but arrogant? Arrogant implies that Matt is saying his opinion carries more weight than others on this board and I just don't read it that way.

    As for Roddick V Federer.. well unless Fed plays below his best (as in Wimbledon this year) Roddick will find it very hard to beat Fed.. but that's nothing we didn't already know from their previous record.
     
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  21. yee

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    Ok, here's why I think his statement is arrogant and ignorant.

    Federer bagelled Santoro in the first set and he said he had issues breaking Santoro. Not ignorant?

    Not going to take a set off Andy, not even a chance for Roger to win. Not arrogant? Especially considering Federer just beat Andy convincingly on hard court few weeks back in Toronto.

    I am very impressied with Andy's play here and have no doubt he is the favourite to win, even more so than Roger. He's focus, determined and is all business out there but what Matt said came off as arrogant and ignorant to me with reasons I pointed out.
     
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  22. AndyC

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    andy's been impressive for sure.. but u know.. it's easy to look impressive against the lesser players.. I think the test will be in the later rounds. both roger and andy look good for sure.
     
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  23. alienhamster

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    Yee, I didn't respond to your last post in that thread because you basically disparaged the entire conversation by apologizing to other posters for having to endure our discussion. I wasn't even sure if you were planning to read the thread anymore.

    I checked a lot of your older posts, and you definitely do praise (or at least are neutral about) Roddick sometimes. I'm sorry I didn't realize that. But, as the record shows, you have also brought up something negative about his attitude or on-court behavior a lot. You've even posted again on the "raquet incident" since that thread. (Yeah, the topic was rules against bad on-court behavior, but Roddick wasn't even the topic of discussion.)

    You're of course welcome to post your opinions, but I don't understand why you think it's so bizarre for me to have the impression that you think Roddick intentionally intimdates people on-court. You still haven't said whether or not you actually think he intimidates linespeople.

    That conversation aside, I like your posts when they are fair, opinionated assesments of pro-players. But sometimes you flame posters without much cause, and I felt the need to call you on it in this thread.
     
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  24. Free_Martha

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    Wasn't this thread supposed to be about the Roddick-Canas match? I take it there's not enough to meat to chew on?
     
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  25. yee

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    Alienhamster, I post what I see and what I think. I never comment on things I didn't see for myself. I certainly don't like what I saw of Andy throwing his racquet towards the officials and I don't see why wasn't he penalised for that when other players will probably be, that's why I brought it up. But when others are bashing him for no reason, such as his "easy" draw in USO which I think it's completely stupid, I will say as it is too. That is why I don't appreciate you implying me as Andy hater in the first place but if that's clear, that's fine.

    But it's also bizarre to me till now you're still asking me the same question.
     
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  26. alienhamster

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    No, yee, sorry if you thought I was nailing you as a typical Roddick hater or something. Your messages usually have good content, which is much different from the more usual "Roddick sucks no matter what he does" or "I love Andy!" posts.

    I still ask that question because you haven't confirmed or denied whether you actually think Roddick intimidates linespeople, and that's what my initial (mis)reading of your post was about. Our discussion since then has been about what you have and haven't literally said in your posts, rather than what you actually think about Roddick's purported intimidation. That's why I'm curious.

    I've never seen him intimidate a linesperson, so I don't personally think he has. This is one aspect of his on-court behavior that folks on here have overblown. You can choose not to respond to this question, of course, but I still think it's relevant to what got us here in the first place.

    I'm glad we're sounding more civil towards each other!
     
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  27. alienhamster

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    Also--you make a good point about how arbitrary those penalties are. I can't figure out why some on-court actions get warnings and others don't. It seems like they should enforce more consistent standards across refs & matches.
     
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