Roddick vs. Haas Predictions/"SPOILER"

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  1. court_zone

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    Predictions and "Spoiler"

    Roddick has not really brought his A-game lately but somehow he's pulled out with a win in tough matches because of his serve. If Roddick is flat again today, his serve will help him get out of a tough spot. Roddick in 3 sets.
     
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  2. alienhamster

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    This one is a really tough call. Normally I'd pick Roddick on a hard court, but his game does seem off lately. I think Roddick may edge this out, and honestly he needs to do so to keep his confidence from taking a huge nosedive.

    Wish I had TV coverage . . . :(
     
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  3. Pushmaster

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    Is the match on TV?
     
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  4. verdasco67

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    im going to go for haas on this one....Roddick isnt in good form....
     
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  5. court_zone

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    Tennis Channel, I believe... Too bad I don't get that coverage[​IMG]
     
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    :( I cant wait until MArch 4th for Davis Cup!!! I wanna see tennis NOW!! Stupid COmcast!!!
     
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  7. court_zone

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  9. rhubarb

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    Bummer. That means Roddick must have beaten Enqvist.
     
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  10. dAgEnIuS

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    your right, roddick and agassi were playing terribly this week,,
    and you all know what happend to Agassi...
    i say Haas in 3 sets....
     
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  11. Matt H.

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    Haas in straights.
     
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  12. splink779

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    GO HAAS! Hopefully it will be as exciting as the olympic match between these two... Too bad I can't watch it.
     
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  13. Fee

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    Fox Sports has the rights to the Singles semifinals and finals, but each of their affiliates will show them at different times so check your local listings or do a search at Yahoo TV.

    Tommy Haas called the trainer during his match yesterday for a back injury. Those are always kind of scary.
     
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  14. Vlad

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    Haas said that his back is bothering him and he can not serve at 100%. If this is the case, then I don't see him winning the match against Roddick. He needs his big serve to get easy points as Roddick will get them in bunches.....
     
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  15. court_zone

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    The match has begun; Haas leading 2-1 so far, it looks like it started a bit late, but I'm not sure because I am only following it through www.sapopentennis.com
     
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    The Tennis Channel will show both semis tape delayed on monday, 4PM EST
     
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  17. court_zone

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    Too bad that I don't have The Tennis Channel or FSN so I won't be able to see any of the matches.
     
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  18. Haka Boy

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    roddick has won the first set 7-6
     
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  19. nkhera1

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    haas broke roddick and then roddick broke right back
     
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    currently 7-6 5-2 RODDICK!
     
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  21. Haka Boy

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    Roddick won, final score 7-6 6-3
     
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  22. nkhera1

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    Did anyone here watch the match? If so could you please post some impressions of Haas and Roddick.
     
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  23. SonicSpeed

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    I watched the match, Andy has REALLY picked up his game tonight. Tommy gave away a break through some forced errors but Andy's forehand was penetrating and he ran down a couple great drop shot and ended up winning the point. Much more pumped up Andy instead of the dejected Andy all week.
     
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    good thing that we have coverage here. the tennis channel is great- I got to watch SAP and buenos aires- LIVE.
     
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    Rhubarb, I was sitting ********* for Enqvist/Ginepri and Enqvist was feeling it. When his forehand is on it is still one of the best out there. He was hitting winners like crazy on the run off of good shots by Ginepri. Ginepri even resorted to semi-moonballing at one point, trying to mix it up. That idea lasted all of three shots. I am not suprised Enqvist gave Roddick a heck of a match.
     
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  26. nkhera1

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    lets not forget that Haas had an injured back which forced him to take somthing off of his serve
     
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    Let's not forget Haas choked in the first set tiebreak, then got his hass kicked by A-rod in the second.

    Memo to Haas fans: Roddick is a better tennis player.
     
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  28. Pushmaster

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    Well, he was today anyway. But I still think Haas is a better all-around player (when he's 100% healthy).
     
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  29. andfor

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    Let's not forget these guys are professional tennis player. 90% of these guys are dealing with an ailment of one sort or another. Get over the excuses.
     
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  30. andfor

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    Excuses, excuses. Be careful of what you said. Given Haas's physical past then he may never be better than Roddick. That's good news for you, if he never beats Roddick again at least you can use that as an excuse.
     
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  31. Pushmaster

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    If it wasn't for Roddick's serve, I doubt if he would even be in the top 50. Because of Haas shoulder he can only serve at 75% of his normal pace, and he still had a very good chance of beating Roddick if he could have pulled out that 1st set. Haas' lack of cheap points of his serve was the difference. BTW, I'm not a Roddick hater by any means (terrific player), but I admit Haas is one of my favorite players to watch along with Moya and Federer. In contrast to Roddick those guys games are so beautiful to watch compared to Roddick's "herky-jerky" style.
     
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  32. splink779

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    I really don't like it when people say this, especially Roddick haters. It's no suprise if you take away a players greatest strength they'll become worse. If it wasn't for Fed's forehand, or Coria's speed, or Hewitt's foocus... These strengths make the players what they are. No matter how crappy he plays, he's ended the last two years at #1 or #2, and probably will end in the top 3 again this year.
     
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  33. goober

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    Statements like that are pretty silly.

    If Pete Sampras had an average serve he would be probably not in the top 50 either.

    If Stefi Graf had average forehand where would she be? Let's see slice backhand and average forehand, probably not even top 100.

    If Michael Chang didn't have his speed he would not be in the top 100.

    If Shaq were 6'1" instead of 7'1" he would not be in the NBA.
     
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  34. andfor

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    .........and the hating continures................or is it something else?
     
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  35. VictorS.

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    Has Haas' serve really dropped off since the surgery? It seems like a pretty solid serve IMO. It's been so long since he last played before surgery, that it's really difficult to remember how he served. But really...I don't remember him having a huge serve.
     
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  36. Pushmaster

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    Maybe it is a silly statement in a way, but you guys are missing my point. What I'm saying is that if Haas' serve is 100%, he has a better all-around game than Roddick, and probably would have won. But them are the breaks.
     
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    Before Haas' surgery he could consistently hit serves in the 120-125 mph range (pretty big IMO), compared to 100-110 now, believe me it makes a big difference when your looking to get some cheap points, and can be the difference between winning and losing matches.
     
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  38. BreakPoint

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    I saw the match live. Haas was the better player off the ground and at the net. I agree that the serve was the difference. Roddick did volley well, though. If Haas' serve had been 100%, I think he would have won.
     
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  39. BreakPoint

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    My signature below says it all.
     
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  41. goober

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    Well Roddick beat has beaten Haas 3 straight times now. What was his excuse in the other 2 matches? Was he not 100% those times either?
     
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  42. splink779

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    I think it was more like 120-130 first serve, sometimes just over 130. I don't know how he served yesterday, but after the shoulder surgery it took probably 15 mph off his first serve. His placement has always been good, even now with a slower serve. The match against Sampras in toronto in 2002, he served so well, I beleive he had more aces than Sampras by a wide margin.
     
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  43. nkhera1

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    lol you guys misunderstand me. Roddick is probably my favorite player, but we can't say he has suddenly improved back to his normal self just because he beat an oppnent with a bum shoulder.

    Also saying roddick wouldn't be in top 3 without his serve is like saying coria wouldn't be in the top 10 with this speed or that federer wouldn't be number 1 without his forehand
     
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    Credit to him, he still has a hobby despite being the most evil, undedicated, ugliest, unfit, worst-coached player ever.
     
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    Roddick will continue to win as long as he does not have to play anyone in the top 10. Although Haas is around 17 or so, he has beaten Roddick 4 out of the last 7 times they played. If he had been 100%, for their match, my money would have been on Haas. I don't think Andy would have broken him, even once. Would have been a different outcome in the tie breaker, as well. Only reason it was as close as it was, with Haas just spinning serves in, is because Roddick has a terrible return of serve, probably one of his biggest weaknesses.
     
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  46. Vlad

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    In last year's Thai Open final, Roddick could not serve 100% in the second set against Roger Federer. It is just a good indication of what Haas was feeling yesterday not being able to go full out on hid serve.
    BTW Roddick lost that set 0-6 to Roger.
     
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  47. Fee

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    There is nothing wrong with Tommy's shoulder. He played that match with back soreness that he had been fighting all week (and it was pretty bad after his match on Friday). That's why he was taking speed off of his serve, keeping it right around 100 mph. He was okay moving side to side and forward, it was just the twisting and reaching that was giving him the most trouble apparently. He's going to try to play Memphis and Scottsdale before Davis Cup, but personally I hope he takes a week off.
     
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  48. Fee

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    oops, duplicate
     
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    Roddick vs top 10

    Fed 1-8
    Hewitt 1-5
    Safin 3-2
    Coria 4-0
    Moya 3-1
    Henman 2-3
    Gaudio 0-0
    Nalbandian 3-1
    Agassi 1-5

    Whatever dude. He only has a losing record against 4 top 10 players and his matches have been very close with Henman so I would say that it is a toss up with him.
     
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    Thanks for setting the record straight. It won't stop the next wise-guy/know-it-all from popping off without any truth behind their words. While I enjoy coming here to the board I have found many like to come and run their mouth and say whatever they want. No facts, just diarrhea of the mouth.

    I can only attribute that behavior to one of three possibilities.
    1. Stupidity.
    2. Trolling.
    3. Immaturity. There are a bunch of children here.
     
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