Roddick When Will He Ever Learn...

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  1. cork_screw

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    Just watching Indian Wells and Roddick (vs berdych) is arguing a call that he thought he challenged in time with clear distinction and belittled the chair umpire, when in the replay he was actually wrong. He said he challenged 6 times, but it wasn't even clear if he made a gesture the first time, it looked like he wasn't sure, looked at his camp then shrugged it off, then he started to belittle the chair umpire. He didn't make it clear and if at any confirmation it happened very overdue what is allowed, he is a real dick. Can't believe people love this guy so much as he has no class or reserve. He says whatever he wants to and talks down to people constantly when he himself is wrong most of the time. He actually did this at least in one recent occasion during the US Open when a linesman called him on a foot fault that he actually infracted. It's getting old andy. Learn you're wrong and grow up.
     
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    ok, you don't like him. Good to know.
     
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    Agree with you cork screw. I was watching and he definitely didnt make 6 requests to challenge like he lied and said he did. The guys a joke and the only player I really root against.
     
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    The older he gets the more of a jackass he seems to be becoming. I'm finding it harder and harder to cheer for him simply because of his rudeness and demeaning attitude.
     
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  5. Bingolicious! Bang on.

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    He's a professional athlete and he's frustrated. People let off steam different ways, and his personality (something you can't really change) leads him to argue. Don't like it? Don't watch, or get over it.


    Another thing, you don't know anywhere near enough about him to call him a dick. Maybe you don't like his on-court attitude, but you can't judge him as a person considering you don't know him. If anything, that makes you just as "classless" as you call him.
     
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    Funny, I was just thinking the same thing from reading just the title of the post.

    Well said. (And trust me, I am not Roddick's biggest fan) But some people may want to look in the mirror before spouting off.
     
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  8. nadalwon2012

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    Is it acceptable to 'let off steam' in that manner? To the point of insulting others? The fans are well in their right to criticize Roddick's behavior (which they are doing without insulting him in any way whatsoever). It is not acceptable. It's "his personality" is no defense for one person insulting another person on the street.
     
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    Roddick is a professional athlete conducting his job in an unprofessional way.
     
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  10. volleygirl

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    Did you see the end of the match? Did Roddick say "thanks, thanks for screwing up" to the chair official when shaking his hand? Thats what it sounded like to me just wonder if others saw it and heard the same thing.
     
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    Pray tell what is your definition of professional? He gets paid to play, and within the confines of the rules. It's not like he lobbying for rules to give himeself an advantage in the game.

    Like many have said, if you like him, don't watch him play. Pretty sure he'll get over it, so should you.
     
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    Lol...Fish refused to shake the umpire's hand after his loss to Ebden earlier. What is it with US players and umpires??
     
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    I watched that match also and Fish at least thought he had a reason to be upset with the umpire. Roddick didnt and I never even saw the umpire miss a call in the Roddick match. Fish thought he was screwed with the call late in the match but the umpire made the correct call.
     
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    I know right. NO OTHER non US player EVER complains.
     
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    So defensive. No one ever said non US players dont complain did they?
     
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    you know what's funny, is that if this rule is truly consistent, Azarenka would lose everytime she hits the ball. She constantly moans well into the hitting of the opposing player.
     
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    Cool story.
     
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    I wish the ladies would complain more and see if they will enforce it.
     
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    I actually thought it was just a straight 'thanks' - wasn't paying too much attention, to be honest.

    As for Roddick's tantrums; no, they're not okay by any stretch of the imagination, but the way people castigate him sometimes you'd think they've never done it themselves at any point in their lives and Roddick is a terrible person in all ways possible.

    Yes devila, we already know.
     
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    I do find Roddick's berating and insult of officials downright disgusting. I have always wondered why the umpires and linespeople don't throw back atleast a cheeky retort, as an example, Roddick's comment below is begging for a reply such as "And I have wondered why you lose early at tournaments, now I know why."

    How would you handle it if it were you on the receiving end of this?

    From: http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/ticker.aspx?articleid=16738&zoneid=6

     
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    I agree with the OP, RodDICK is a classless brat. It's time to hang it up andy, you are not gonna win s*it. I wonder how long Brooklyn will be with him?
     
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    Umps are trained to deal with it. Officials deal with verbal abuse in EVERY SPORT, at ALL LEVELS. In fact, even with players like Roddick arguing with them from time to time, tennis umps have it a lot easier than officials in other sports.
     
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    I agree. Tennis umpires have it easier.
     
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    Yeah, because we all know how great a sport Berdych is, right?
     
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    Oh man, it's Berdych/Almagro next isn't it?

    I was rooting for Roddick pretty hard, but this is a pretty good consolation prize.
     
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    Berdych has a few transgressions, but you can't possibly compare him to Roddick who has tomes full.

    Not only that, I only know what the commentators say about Berdych and I don't trust or believe the lot of them.
     
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    Well I can tell you first hand when I've seen him in person, he is an ass. Couple that with not what has been said, but what we've all seen on TV and well..... That being said, my point is if you're going to b!tch about one player at least be consistent and acknowledge ALL players have their issues. And before you say, "But you can't compare ...... to ........" I realize everybody has players they like and dislike. As mentioned before, don't like 'em, don't watch 'em!
     
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    haven't seen any of his bullcrap live? I have, he's not any better than Roddick.. except Roddick goes after umpires; berdych starts crap with everyone.

    for instance, shushing the spanish crowd after beating rafa, and getting a response from Nadal himself for the antic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udXOUAzvGc&t=5m30s
     
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    I love it! I am tired of these guys going out meekly. Let them fight. This is the mens game after all.

    Anyone remember Connors....."YOUR AN ABORTION!" tantrum. Tennis is a bunch of sissys now. Cant even call an asian woman Chinese anymore.

    Berych is the biggest wimp. Wah, Wah Almagro hit a ball at me! Hit him back you wimp. Thats what Ivan would do.
     
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    So treating the umpire like his bitc* is acceptable, just like Mac's behavior was acceptable right? When you have kids you will learn that this behavior is NOT acceptable, because RodDICK is setting a bad example for them, coaches and parents can tell their kids not to act like this, but then they see these pros doing it, they think it's okay and it's not, it's classless.
     
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  32. I wanna see Roger explode at the umpire ridiculously and then say afterwards that he was 'just kidding, had to feel what it would be like to be Andy Roddick'.

    I remember when Federer shouted '****' after a shot and grinned like a naughty guilty boy as he was given a warning by the umpire!
     
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    Nice, Here ya go................

    I have kids. They worship and model their behavior after dad and mom not some professional athlete that does not even know there name. Maybe when you learn how to parent your kids and be a good role model you will understand. If your kids are modeling themselves after strangers instead of you and your spouse its probably time to get off the internet and spend some quality time with them.

    Have a nice day:wink:
     
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    Funny you should bring up Connors, because I just heard this story (possibly apocryphal, it was via word of mouth):

    He was scheduled to play Nastase at a tournament, but before the match word got out that there had been some kind of natural disaster in Romania (earthquake, flood - can't remember) and there was apparently an unspoken agreement not to tell Nasty, because no one wanted his game adversely affected because of this.

    Connors being Connors though, when he found out the first thing he said when he saw Nastase was something along the lines of "Hey buddy! Hope you still got a house!" :shock:
     
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    WOW!
    Thought it too,....wasn't going to say it, but thought it
    Well stated
     
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    Sounds like Jimmy! Heres one...."Get your ass out of that chair, Your a Bum!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ww7KM2qFR4
     
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    My kids aren't up at midnight, perhaps yours are. I guess reading isn't your strong suit, so I'll type it again, kids will try and emulate the pros they see on tv, no matter what you tell them. They should be able to watch tennis and not see this behavior, why do you think it gets booed, players are penalized, etc. You probably never played competitive tennis, so you wouldn't know any better, but this type of behavior only hurts your game, as well as the poor example it sets.
     
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    Perhaps you can take your kid to Llodra's next match, since he was probably just blowing off steam, it's okay, right?
     
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    I re-wound it a few times and still couldn't make out what he said. Definitely something sarcastic/impolite though.
     
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    However if your kid acts like a brat, you can easily lay down the law on the child. At a young age if you see your 10 year old throw a fit on a court, you have the power to take him off the court, tell him it's not right and forbid him from playing if the behavior persists. Don't say Roddick is going to affect someone's parenting for berating an umpire. If you can't stop your child from acting like a brat, it's not Roddick's fault. That's bordering that whole violent video game argument, start being a parent and teaching your kids value instead of telling them oh do what all these people on tv do. If you can't tell your kids to not act like Roddick and have them listen then the last poster has a point, learn how to raise your kids and don't have Roddick do it for you.
     
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    Why is being a nice guy necessarily what you want to see as a fan? I would die of sadness if Roddick decides to retire, but not because he is so nice and classy, but because he's different, because he cares, because he wants to win and wants to be a jerk to win. I like that. He's a nice guy off the court, an ******* on it. I like that a LOT.
     
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    That bolded part is wrong.

    Players are under no obligation to act like role models. Is it nice when they do? Sure! If Roddick could keep the competitive fire and the funny quips whilst cutting out the jackassery, that'd be amazing. But that's not his job. His job is to play tennis, and it's the job of the parents to point out 'hey, that's not how you should act'. They do it anyway? Pull them off court, discipline them, read them the riot act, whatever. Contrary to what you think, it works; it worked on Borg (huge hothead when he was younger), it worked on Federer (took his coaches and not his parents, but same principle) and it worked on Nadal (dude's never broken a racquet ever). It's not 'no matter what you tell them', and to be frank implying that it is in any way is nothing but a cop-out. "Oh, they're going to act like X no matter what I do, so I guess it's X's responsibility to clean up their act!"

    No. It's not.
     
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    C'mon people. Do you really think that in a middle of a highly competitive match, out in the heat, a player is going to think things through rationally. Hasn't any one done or said something they regret in the heat of the moment?

    Roddick is probably a very intense and emotional player hence the outbursts. Not everybody can repress their emotions like Federer during a match. I'm not a fan of Roddick but some people here need to stop acting like he committed murder.

    On a side note, it's not Roddick's responsibility to educate your children.
     
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    who're you kidding?
    he badmouthed djokovic and monfils. funny how he salivated all over federer.
    roddick's not enough of a hero to feel ENTITLED TO LAXED RULES IN TENNIS.
    the abnormal, self-humiliating antics had nothing to do with performing for tennis events.

    he's a role model for kids, no matter HOW you deny IT.
    he promoted his children's charity and kids' tennis events with his family and opponents.
    you better stop pretending he's so nice and just another tennis "star".
    he's not worth a cent, after the hypocritical behavior he displayed the last 8 years.

    the buffoon's a bitter little boy.
    he feels the need to be famous no matter what to give back to
    his parents and prove he's a strong charitable. tough macho man.
    outside his disrespect for coaches & tennis, he just became a sycophant to naive fans who'll donate money to him.
    he hung around better athletes and famous rich people to get free favors, time off from tennis and employment in sport jobs.. nothing more, nothing less.

    he literally was lucky to be alive when his umbilical tangled around his neck, so he heard "you're a fighter. you're so great" repeatedly.
    he's not very bright; he's a bore on the court/in public. he knows this.
    the frustration stung him and grew bigger due to constant expectations from
    his family.
    they did this biography for him because they wanted roddick fame.
    what they all needed to do was refuse the media bait and interviews but his best interests and desires were
    not an important concern. they just wanted attention, wealth, celebrity connections and trophies to gloat about.
    his bro was also an overeater and he suffered severe back injuries and tendinitis, like he does.
     
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    This was the final straw! Damn you Andy Roddick!
     
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    He probably is frustrated with himself , his ability on a free fall it seems. And is taking it out on whatever gets in his way...
    He is still one of my favorite
     
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    roflmao.


    oh the irony.
     
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    I noticed this too and this follows John McEnroe's pattern: the older and worse he got the MORE he argued and his vulgarity increased ten fold. In his younger days Mac rarely cursed which I think kept him in a lot of peoples good graces as sort of "passionate tortured genius" out there . By 1987 people were sick of Johns antics as he let F bombs fly at will.

    Yesterday Roddick looked annoyed, distracted and like he doesn't enjoy the sport anymore. His treatment of officials is getting worse and his serve no longer routinely hits 140 mph.

    Has any player in the the history of tennis gone from a massive FH that Roddick once possessed to a mediocre FH? I've never seen such a dramatic drop off like this that I can recall in someones forehand.
     
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    I blame his coach. he went from crushing the fh to this grinding spinny game.
     
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    It coincided with when he changed from Brad Gilbert to his next coach? I think it was his brother? Or was it Jimmy Connors? Either way he started hitting a more looping FH... I thought it seemed like he was trying to emulate Nadal!
     
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