Roddick will never beat Federer

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  1. pabletion

    pabletion Professional

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    What do ya think? Its my opinion, I think the biggest issue is the mental approach he brings when he faces Fed. It looks like his game isnt the same as it was when Rod reached N. 1; to me his serve looks less consistent, he doest kill it as he used to as much (less aces and winner serves), and his forehand isnt as lethal as it used to, maybe he's trying to be more consistent, but he's not letting it rip as he used to. I'm pretty sure Roddick now hates Fed, have you seen how he shakes his hand now after the end of the matches? particulary at the US OPEN and MC? hahaha he cant stand Fed anymore, hes gotten Roddick totally frustrated. At Shangai it looked like Roddick wanted to cry at the end of the match.... Can he ever bring his game up to a level where he can think he can beat Federer? Right now it looks like its not gonna happen
     
  2. edmondsm

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    I saw a thread just like this the other day, it was called "The Sky is Blue."
     
  3. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    Andy is due for a victory sometime in their match-ups; I mean 1-16 is a dismal record. But, with tennis you never know what can happen.
     
  4. Heavy Metal Tennis Star

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    what do u mean u never know. roddick sucks compared to fed, he will never beat him.
     
  5. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    I was trying to be positive, because a few posters have pointed out that I bash Roddick a little too much. But everytime Federer beats him, it's a taste of heaven.
     
  6. Jack the Hack

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    If he's beaten him once, he can do it again. Plus, we know Roddick beat Federer in that Kooyong exhibition tournament this year, and had match points to beat Fed at the '06 Masters Cup. Anybody who has a gigantic serve for a weapon like Roddick will always have a fighting chance to knock off a better player. Besides, Roddick is one year younger than Federer, and may have some chances as Federer slows down later in their careers. (Federer's foot speed will likely start to slow before Roddick's serve does.)
     
  7. Ossric

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    Mental edge is huge and Federer has it.

    Also, much like Nadal, Roddick's game relies a lot on his physical strength being 100%. He hits the ball as hard as he can to win point. If he's hurt at all or his body is on the down slide then he's not going to get any better until he learns new ground strokes and remakes his ground game because as it stands he's too slow and not as strong as he used to be to play the kind of game that used to win him tournaments.
     
  8. edmondsm

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    But Federer's foot speed is already light years ahead of Roddick's. I bet if you could magically age Federer by 10 years he would still move better than Andy. Not to mention the fact that Fed's groundstrokes and return are also far superior to Roddick's. IMO it's a done deal. Roddick just can't beat the guy.
     
  9. Rhino

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    Well anything is possible I suppose but does that mean Vince Spadea can beat federer again too?
     
  10. RoddickistheMan

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    At this point I somewhat agree. Was extremely disappointed with the way he played at shanghai. He looked lost out there. His volleys were horrible his forehand was sub-par and his backhand was letting him down during tight moments just as it did in the past. He seemed to regress at the end of this season which isnt a good sign. the only way he can possibly hang with federer is to attempt to hit federer off the court like gonzo did recently. Roddick of all people with his body mass and huge serve should be able to do this easily however his mechanics on his forehand have changed as well his confidence. People say yeah roddick should serve and volley more, work on his backhand and play more all court tennis however all that is too much for roddick to learn and wouldnt work with his heavy body type. His body type is made to be a big power hitter and he needs to get back into that type of play. He cant rally, he cant grind so why try and do all those things and lose the point after much effort. Roddick in his hey day used to push people around and rarely ever had to rely on his net abilities to win points. Just one big serve and one big forehand done. All of his flaws are being exposed especially by federer since his groundstrokes are weaker players can take huge cuts at them and push roddick exposing his poor movement and weak backhand side. I think what made brad gilbert so special was that he did a great job at playing to roddicks strengths and hiding his weaknesses. Roddick was a poor returner so he had roddick stand further behind the baseline for returns. Roddicks groundstrokes werent that great so he made roddick stand behind the baseline more so he can take bigger cuts at the ball. He created a simple gameplan for roddick which was big serve then big forehand. Now roddick has gotten away from all of this and seems to be on the decline, which is sad for a player of his talent. I how conners increased roddicks confidence, but I believe al the things hes trying to teach roddick right now jsut arent made for his body type or abilities. I think they are biting off more than they can chew. Having roddick standing closer to the baseline is cool but roddick seems to hit the ball weaker now and looks way more off balance when he stands near the baseline. Everything right now other than his serve looks sloppy.
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  11. Rickson

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    Stick with your man. What kind of fan are you?
     
  12. Jack the Hack

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    Well, Roddick probably has a better chance of beating Federer again before Spadea does.

    I just don't understand why people insist on absolutes in sports, like saying that Roddick with NEVER beat Federer. Especially when Roddick already has beaten Federer once, and has had several close matches. With the 0-10 lifetime record he had going into his match last week, it would have been safer to have said Fernando Gonzalez will "never" beat Federer. However, we all know how that turned out. Upsets happen all the time in sports. That's why the game is played on the courts, not on paper.
     
  13. pabletion

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    With the strength and phisique Roddick has, does anyone else besides me think that probably the Bab Pure Drive is not the best stick for him? I know its not nearly as close as the stock racquets, but still, maybe he would be better with a more control oriented racquet, like the Storm Tour, or a more players racquet.... I've been thinking about it, since I know the Bab PD has so much power
     
  14. grafrules

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    By a little bit maybe. :twisted:
     
  15. FedForGOAT

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    Federer seems to always bring his best game when he plays roddick.
     
  16. Commando Tennis Shorts

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    I don't know. Roddick lost an extremely close match to Federer at the USO. (No matter what people say, 7-6, 7-6 is a damn close match, and no, Federer was not taking it easy on Roddick.)

    I only have one rule in life: Never say never.

    It could happen.
     
  17. Mick

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    to beat Federer, Roddick has to have a good day and Federer has to have a very bad day.
     
  18. teneighty

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    The way Roddick played Federer at the 2007 US Open was probably the best match Roddick has ever played against him... I suppose that if Roddick brought that game for the next 10 or so meetings between them, he might be able to come away with a win once.. but obviously it would have to be at a tournament Federer didn't really care about. :(

    Yea.. I mean Roddick just doesn't have the weapons from the baseline. He needs to learn to put balls away from 2 feet inside the baseline.. like a lot of other players do.
     

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