Roddick's weaknesses

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  1. Surecatch

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    I'm interested in what others think Andy's weaknesses are in his game. I see several things that lead me to believe he is only a top ten caliber player at best.

    The thing that bothers me most about Roddick's game is that annoying habit he has of back pedaling so he can hit his forehand on a high bounce. Players who want to impose themselves through aggressiveness just don't do that. I see very few other top caliber players doing this. The other is running around the ball so he doesn't have to hit the backhand. Federer also does this but it's usually a calculated "guess" on his part while returning serve and does not smack of fear the way it does when I see Andy do it. Andy also stays too far behind the baseline for too long on rallies if you ask me. He seems hesitant or unable to take control of the point and it leaves him susceptable to a drop shot or a winner to the opposite side. I also don't like his recovery after hitting a rally...he seems to lag far too long on one side of the court instead of hustling back to the proper position. These are the obvious things I see, not even counting his lack of volley game and weak backhand. I hate to admit it but it appears to me that Andy excelled for a few years on a huge serve but now that people have seen him for so long and figured it out, it doesn't go as far for him anymore in the absence of other aspects of his game.
     
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  2. helloworld

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    Poor backhand, poor volley, poor movement etc. We should be talking about Blake rather than this one-dimensional basher.
     
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  3. BabolatFan

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    Good input. The reason we're picking on andy is all of a sudden he's not winning big matches anymore. He's got one too many letdown games. It seems as though he lacks his big confidense when he needs the most in a match, so he's not quite able to construct winning points. Maybe he's way too aggressive in the back court but can't finish points at net.
     
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  4. TacoBellBorderBowl1946

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    nothing is his weakness, he'll do good this summer.
     
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  5. byealmeens

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    Andy's strategy: Stay well behind the baseline, hope the other guy misses. Get into trouble. Hit big serves to get out of trouble. Repeat.

    Pretty easy to see why this isn't working.
     
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  6. baseliner

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    Can't volley, weak backhand. Strategy to cover these glaring weaknesses nonexistant since Gilbert left his camp. Prognosis for this summer's hardcourt season? Poor!
     
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  7. Colpo

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    Terrible thinker during a match. When things aren't going well, he just keeps plodding along. They keep talking about his big serve and big FH, meanwhile they all come back, or fail to make a difference in a lost match anyway. Bottom-line: one-dimensional.
     
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  8. jack mckinney

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    His volley is poor at best. pushes his backhand. But I think the biggest weakest is his mental toughness. When he gets down he loses all faith that he can come back.
     
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  9. LeftyServe

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    He has no return game whatsover. He may be the easiest player in the top 30 to hold serve against.
     
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  10. Spindarella

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    Shot selection, volleys (especially forehand), and the preparation on his backhand.
     
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  11. theazneyes

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    It's easily his return game. And the reason his return game isn't great is because the lack of a backhand and a decent volley. For someone with such a powerful serve, he sure doesn't know when to come up to net.

    I think McEnroe got it right when he says Roddick tenses up way too much before every shot. Smaller guys than him can produce better, stronger groundstrokes than him, and it's because they're more loose. Roddick arms the ball way too much which is the reason his backhand floats around the court.

    Once his opponent breaks him at least once a match, it's pretty much a tough win to get for Roddick, and I don't see him improving much in the near future.
     
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  12. MaxT

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    He was lucky to win the U.S. Open, within points of losing. He then rode that fame pretty hard, made all the money he needs. Life is more than fair to him considering his abilities.
     
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  13. Dan007

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    Horrible backhand and volleys, and not a smart player
     
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  14. siber222000

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    his backhand is horrible, his forehand is so-so, his mental toughness is blah..., like that one guy posted, he hope opponent misses rather than hitting the winner often
     
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  15. Matthew

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    I am pretty sure that EVERY member of this forum has posted an EXTENSIVE list of Roddick's weaknesses about TEN times.

    Thank you.
     
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  16. MTChong

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    Yep, his abilities that allow him to beat everyone on this board 6-0 6-0.
     
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  17. quest01

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    A problem with Roddick is that he plays to far behind the baseline, and that puts him in the defensive position. He needs to attack more and go to the net more often. He should think about serve and volleying on first serves only. Also his backhand is on par with a club player, and thats one aspect that he needs to improve.
     
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  18. federerforever

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    Let's also not forget that Roddick became year end ranked number 1 in 2003 while beating Roger Federer in the process and by winning both Toronto Masters and Cincinatti Masters back to back without a week's rest and then won a US Open. No one this decade not even Federer has accomplished this. And then the following year Roddick had a year end ranking of 2 at end of 2004 and has won about the same number of matches as Federer for the whole year of 2004. So now how can anybody say that Roddick was lucky for over 1 year playing such great tennis. He was a truly great tennis player during that time span from summer 2003 to end of 2004. And all this talk of everybody playing much better today than in 2003 is a bunch of crap. Roddick in 2003 and 2004 was a completely different player mentally and physically. He was able to stay focused at every crucial point, almost like Nadal right now and that's what made his so great. Will he ever get it back we will have to wait and see. I really hope he does regain the form of 2003-2004 and then further improves on it. But that will probably happen in two years time at the earliest.
     
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  19. sandiegotennisboy

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    let the gates of heaven open for you now, thy unopinionated-one. go f urself.
     
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  20. arosen

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    Roddick's biggest problem is located between his ears. He loses focus easily, and while it's fun for me as a spectator to high five him after a good point, he obviously needs to focus on his next move, not on what snarky comment he is going to throw at the empire next.
     
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  21. callitout

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    Brilliant.
     
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  22. Surecatch

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    So do you go around to every one of them and give them a scolding?
     
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  23. helloworld

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    I can hit a backhand better than Roddick.
     
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  24. Dedans Penthouse

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    No opinion; no comment. You don't have to "i.d." yourself by name, but it does raise a few questions:

    --If you're a professional, what are you ranked?

    --If you are currently "playing college" what Division level (I, II or III) are you playing? Name of school?

    Just curious to hear from a person with a "better backhand" than Roddick. Thanks for a reply.
     
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  25. helloworld

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    DIV III Darthmouth, and I do have a better backhand than Roddick. ;)
     
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  26. Dedans Penthouse

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    Not sure if it was a "typo" or not but did you mean "Dartmouth" College in Hanover, N.H. or Darthmouth College in Darthmouth, Mass.?
     
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  27. helloworld

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    sorry, I was referring to Dartmouth College in New Hampshire. :)
     
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  28. Free_Martha

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    How often do you master-bate to Roddick? Weekly? Daily? Every hour?
     
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  29. Slice Approach

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    I think Andy is going through a tough period right now. He has had some disappointing losses and people are questioning his talent. Andy is a very good player to be sure, but has some glaring weaknesses in his game for a top ATP player...namely his "push" backhand and return of serve (who is responsible for telling him to stand that far back to receive serve?). His style resembles that of a good junior tournament player rather than a well-rounded ATP tour player.
    Obviously, I don't mean to imply that Andy plays at the junior level. He does, however, rely too heavily on his big serve and big forehand. These are by all accounts formidable weapons but it seems the rest of the tour has caught up and Andy is lagging behind. I think it might be too late to develope a backhand that is an offensive threat like Safin or Nalbandian. I wish him the best of luck.
     
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  30. clayman2000

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    i agree..however his slice backhand is improving which can help him on grass...he has lost his agressiveness on his forhand....and has simply forgot how to volley...if he wants to playe the way he did in 2003/04, he should do 2 things....look at tapes of his 2003 us win....and 2004 wimby final
     
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  31. Bogie

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    compared with expected top 10 standards: very bad backhand, worst volleys in tennis, mental game isn't very good, fairly one-dimensional dumb player. a huge serve and big forehand can only keep you at the top so far, and it has kept him there for longer than he should have been. his exit out of the top 10 is overdue and the top 10 is as it should be.
     
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  32. sandiegotennisboy

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    god im so sick of this topic, but i love responding. lol.

    anyway, i think that roddicks drop to the abyss makes for nice drama. maybe hell pull a capriati and shoplift from walmart or become a druggie for a year or two and have a major comeback. who knows... it would be the best comeback story weve had in a while though.
     
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  33. helloworld

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    Roddick's volley is very poor. He can't really punch through the ball. His volley always got some slice in it and it just won't work. He really volleys like an amateur and i'm not kidding. I don't find it exaggerating or anything when people say his volley is as good as a club player. Some club player can even volley better than him.
     
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  34. jukka1970

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    The only big weakness I would give him, is in adaptability. His serve was such a deadly weapon, and then people started figuring out how to get it back. I don't think his strokes are as bad as some are claiming. I mean yes, I don't think he'd be put in the top 5 on any of them, other then serve. But I really do think most of his deterioration is a mental breakdown of his serve not being as deadly as it once was.

    If you want to consider weakness as far as not being in the top 20 of something, then I would say the volleying. I mean its not horrific, but it certainly needs some work.
     
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  35. SuperSaiyanSonic

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    I think it is funny that when Roddick drops to like 15 in the world, he must suck. You have to be amazing to be in top 15. And now he is number 3.
    Anyway, his biggest weakness was always his return game.
     
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  36. Heavy Metal Tennis Star

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    he is ok, i guess his serve shines out, he can beat everybody, except federer or nadal.
     
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  37. ACE of Hearts

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    Roddick was still getting beat by Roger even in 2003 and 2004.He beat him at wimbledon in 2003 when he was at his best.I agree about him using serve and volley at the net but he can really get passed by.He would have at least 5 to 6 slams if it wasnt for Federer, there is a reason Fed is the best.He likes to play big servers.
     
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  38. soggyramen

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    i think roddick is actually doing better this year it seems his game has gotten better thanks to connors...this is coming from someone who hates roddick though
     
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  39. Mr. Sean

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    Great points. Roddick was a completely different player than he is now. Back then his forehand was a lot flatter so opponents including federer had a very hard time hitting offensive shots off of it. Back then roddick didnt have to worry about creating points or how close he had to stand next to the baseline. Really ahve to credit gilberts coaching abilities which obviously play to his players strengths and hides their weaknesses. Stuff would just come naturally. Big serve weak return big forehand then another weak response then finish it at net. Simple ball bashing tennis that worked with his big slow body. Now his forehand has way too much topspin so all he has left is his serve which people can bump back at times. Federer now has an even bigger advantage over roddick.
     
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  40. mavsman149

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    The man is #3 in the world lay off. If his return game is so pitiful and all he does is rely on his serve than shouldn't pretty much all of his wins be 7-6, 7-6
    He played Gimelstob who has a pretty solid grass court game with a nice serve and he broke several times. He broke Verdasco several times and Mathieu today. Playing well at big moments, how about being down 0-5 in the 3rd set breaker today and coming back to win 8-6? He also had a very solid hardcourt season last year. I expect him to repeat that this year. While perhaps he does have some weaknesses the only reason people talk about this so much is because of how amazing Federer is and that gets American fans frustrated. He will probably finish this year at number 3 and if he was on Nadals side of the draw I bet he would beat him on grass. Having said all this BO BAGHDATIS
     
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  41. Roger_Federer.

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    I'm going to love watching Gasquet and Andy backhand rallying tomorrow.
     
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    S**t @#$%^&* roddicks..........useless guy
     
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  43. superman1

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    Yeah, Gasquet is phenomenally talented, and Roddick sucks so much, right? That's why he is 2-0 against Gasquet.
     
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  44. ACE of Hearts

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    Fed is the only guy that can return his fastball.Some of these guys stand way behind the baseline against Roddick.
     
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  45. Defcon

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    Gasquet and Roddick are polar opposites.

    Riishaaaaard - talent without application. mentally weak. Can and does lose to nobodies.

    Andy - has one great shot, but no feel for the game or ability to create points. solid and workmanlike, puts in the effort and it pays off against most.
     
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  46. FarFed

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    On the contrary, I think Roddick's been playing well on grass till now. In fact his volleying has been alright, he seems to have been coming to the net quite often.

    In general I think he does not have variety, and that's a problem with players like Federer and Nadal.
     
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  47. Gugafan

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    Jeez, you guys make Roddick out to be some ordinary 1-dimensional player like Gaudio/Davydenko. Firstly Roddicks has added alot more variety in his game. Infact his slice backhand is better then the majority of players in the top 10, its deep and penetrating. Secondly he is willing to come in alot more, notably off the slice approach. I hardly see this tactic being employed by Nadal, Davydenko, Robredo, etc. Furthermore Roddicks movement seems pretty good to me, he seems sharp moving forward to drop shots and usually does something with the ball.
     
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  48. FarFed

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    Except that it isn't consistent and isn't working, many of his unforced errors lately are from that shot. I did mention that his net game is alright nowadays.
     
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  49. krprunitennis2

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    I don't think Roddick's backhand is so weak anymore. I think it's getting better. And his return game isn't so bad.

    But I do agree on the volleys and movement though. He should be able to put more volleys away faster.

    But seriously, I think he's not one-dimensional all the time. He can change things and he will learn.
     
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  50. rommil

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    Among other things pointed out, Roddick needs to lose weight.............seriously.
     
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